Joe Biden, Anarchy, Lawlessness, Racist, lover of Communism, and hating Christianity

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1. Trump is a White Supremacist.

Well,he's a racist, but not necessarily a white supremacist. Not all racists are white supremacists.

2. Trump is a Racist.

Yes, that goes back a long way to when he got caught trying to keep black people out of his apartments, and had to sign a consent decree to stop.
There's a lot more. Would you like to see more?

3. Trump is a Fascist.

In the technical sense, he is.

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, as well as strong regimentation of society and of the economy[3] which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.

Fortunately, the Supreme Court has reigned Trump in on a number of fascist policies, and of course, as long as we have free elections, he will be thwarted by the voters. This is why he's constantly attacking our voting system.

4. Trump is a Bigot.

He hates Muslims, Hispanics, blacks... Yeah, that would do it. And he runs racist tropes about Jews, apparently under the impression that Jews like them. Would you like me to show you?

5. Trump is a Dictator.

False. He's a wannabee dictator.
(He wants to take away the 2nd Amendment)
Trump: We’re going to take the firearms first and then go to court, because that’s another system. Because a lot of times by the time you go to court … it takes so long to go to court to get the due process procedures. I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida; he had a lot of fires [and] they saw everything. To go to court would have taken a long time, so you could do exactly what you’re saying but take the guns first, go through due process second.
Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'

(and the 1st Amendment!)
First, a quick primer. Libel is essentially a written form of defamation. Defamation is a civil cause of action which protects people from false statements of fact (meaning the statement is a factual assertion, not an opinion) that harm their reputations or cause another similar injury like public ridicule or hatred. Someone suing based on defamation must show that the false statement was made either with negligence or with actual malice.

To prove someone has defamed a private individual, one must show that the person making the statement should have known that the statement was false, meaning the person was negligent about the falsity of the statement. To prove defamation against a public figure, however, the person making the statement must either have known it was false or have a “reckless disregard” for the falsity of the statement, meaning the person had actual malice about the falsity of the statement.
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Trump’s repeated insistence that libel laws need to be changed does not reflect reality or current legal precedent. But it does exemplify several key themes of Trump’s candidacy and presidency.


6. Trump is a Nazi.

This is false. Trump is supported by Nazis, but he is not himself a Nazi:
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The National Policy Institute, a Nazi-sympathizing organization, held a conference attended by 275 people in Washington, D.C., that promoted white nationalism and used the same word the Nazis used for the media, "Lügenpresse." Speaker Richard B. Spencer also yelled "Hail Trump," which was greeted with Nazi salutes.

Trump is also supported by KKK Grand Kegel (or whatever) David Duke. And the KKK had a victory parade for Trump when he was elected. So there is that, also.

7. Trump is Hitler.

Hitler dominated and intimidated other heads of state to get his way. Trump is no Hitler. He has become Putin's lapdog. He was humiliated by Kim Jong Il, who publicly laughed at him, and the UN General Assembly laughed at Trump to his face.

Trump is Mussolini.

A Mussolini wannabee. Supreme Court got him again.

Trump is Mentally Deficient.

You think a guy who praises George Washington seizing airports, suggests injecting disinfectant into your body, forgets what his friend Rudy Giuliani looks like, wanders off at a document signing, and has to be retrieved to sign it, and has difficulty drinking from a cup is "mentally deficient?" Yeah I'll have to agree with you on that.

10. Trump will steal the Elections.

He'll try. Don't think it's going to work for him.

Keep in mind, most dead people vote Democrat.

In the 2016 election, there was one provable dead person voting. He voted for Trump. So you've messed up on that, one, too.
 

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White nationalists are:
Who caused the violence at protests? It wasn’t antifa.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/06/22/who-caused-violence-protests-it

White nationalist group posing as antifa called for violence on Twitter

Other misinformation and misleading claims spread across Twitter on Sunday night and into Monday related to the protests.
White nationalist group posing as antifa called for violence on Twitter

Far-right “Boogaloo boy” killed officer after using Black Lives Matter protest as cover: prosecutors


Police claim they found "Boogaloo" movement-linked messages scrawled in blood. One read, "I became unreasonable"

“Boogaloo boy” killed officer, used BLM protest as cover: prosecutors

An officer gets separated from his squad and protesters protect him

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An officer gets separated from his squad and protesters protect him : pics

2 White Women Caught ... Tagging 'BLM' on Starbucks


Two white protesters got called out by a black protester for tagging a Starbucks with graffiti repping the Black Lives Matter movement ... and the bizarre encounter was caught on video.

Check it out ... you see two white women decked out in all black and wearing face masks/coverings spraying 'BLM' along the side of a Starbucks in L.A., as well as other messaging. One African-American woman who's also protesting gets in their faces and questions what they're doing ... and why. Watch what happens when she confronts them.

The white gals were NOT down to stick around for answers, as they mumbled incoherent responses and abruptly scrammed as soon as they realized they were getting attention. The black protester tells them to stop, because the public will blame the peaceful protesters -- the ones of color, specifically -- for the defacement and destruction of property.
Black Protester Confronts White Women Tagging Starbucks with 'BLM'

And predictably, racists point to these incidents and blame BLM and the left. You think no one notices? There's a lot more of this documented. Would you like me to show you more?



I hope you're not seriously trying to say that all the rioting, looting, assaults and criminal activities in all those cities are all white supremacists are you?

I'm not surprised that they would join the attacks on police. They hate them too. But I'm trying to figure out if you are trying to make a claim that all the rioting is just white supremacists.
 

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I hope you're not seriously trying to say that all the rioting, looting, assaults and criminal activities in all those cities are all white supremacists are you?

I'm pointing out that so far, when we actually know who's doing it, it's always right wing extremists and white nationalists, while so far, no one has actually shown BLM members are involved. In fact, we have documented cases of BLM members stopping vandalism and protecting police. You can imagine what you want, but facts make the argument. What do you have?

But I'm trying to figure out if you are trying to make a claim that all the rioting is just white supremacists.

I don't have facts to say all of it is. I'm just pointing out that we only have evidence for white nationalists and right wing extremists doing it. I'd be astonished if 100% of it was right wing terrorism. But I'd be equally astonished if a significant proportion of it was BLM.
 

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I'm pointing out that so far, when we actually know who's doing it, it's always right wing extremists and white nationalists, while so far, no one has actually shown BLM members are involved. In fact, we have documented cases of BLM members stopping vandalism and protecting police. You can imagine what you want, but facts make the argument. What do you have?



I don't have facts to say all of it is. I'm just pointing out that we only have evidence for white nationalists and right wing extremists doing it. I'd be astonished if 100% of it was right wing terrorism. But I'd be equally astonished if a significant proportion of it was BLM.

Then you are not paying attention.

Seattle police release bodycam footage of violent protests as city strapped by lawless weekend

These are all predominantly white supremacists?

How about these folks?

[VIDEO] – Chicago PD releases footage showing how rioters intentionally AMBUSHED police officers last weekend in Grant Park

Predominantly white supremacists?

Antifa Attacks Portland Federal Courthouse for Two Nights in a Row, Again Building an Occupied Zone

Portland Demonstrators Attack Federal Courthouse on Day 55 of Violent Protests

I'm afraid you are way off base here if you believe the nonsense you are trying to assert. Like I said, I am sure that white supremacists are joining the BLM, Antifa groups in some of these places. They hate cops too.

And no one is saying all the BLM folks are rioting. There are good legitimate people there who want peaceful protests. But there a lot of BLM and Antifa types that have joined them in order to attack police, riot and commit criminal activities. There is NO doubt about that. The evidence is overwhelming.

'Orgy of violence': Ami Horowitz talks to Minneapolis protesters who support looting, killing cops

There was one dude they caught that was a Hella Angel that was part of the riots as well. But watching the video will show that the majority of the people are not Hells Angels or white supremacists.
 
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I'm pointing out that so far, when we actually know who's doing it, it's always right wing extremists and white nationalists, while so far, no one has actually shown BLM members are involved. In fact, we have documented cases of BLM members stopping vandalism and protecting police. You can imagine what you want, but facts make the argument. What do you have?

Yehren said, "I'm pointing out that so far, when we actually know who's doing it, it's always right wing extremists and white nationalists, while so far, no one has actually shown BLM members are involved."

Lol, that's what the hate-Trump media is saying, but you don't want to hear the truth! Are you reading our posts where we're showing that Antifa members have been violent??? Why do you assume that the whites rioting are "always right-wing extremists..." and not left-wing extremists like Antifa?
 
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Then you are not paying attention.

Seattle police release bodycam footage of violent protests as city strapped by lawless weekend

These are all predominantly white supremacists?

How about these folks?

[VIDEO] – Chicago PD releases footage showing how rioters intentionally AMBUSHED police officers last weekend in Grant Park

Predominantly white supremacists?

Antifa Attacks Portland Federal Courthouse for Two Nights in a Row, Again Building an Occupied Zone

Portland Demonstrators Attack Federal Courthouse on Day 55 of Violent Protests

I'm afraid you are way off base here if you believe the nonsense you are trying to assert. Like I said, I am sure that white supremacists are joining the BLM, Antifa groups in some of these places. They hate cops too.

And no one is saying all the BLM folks are rioting. There are good legitimate people there who want peaceful protests. But there a lot of BLM and Antifa types that have joined them in order to attack police, riot and commit criminal activities. There is NO doubt about that. The evidence is overwhelming.

'Orgy of violence': Ami Horowitz talks to Minneapolis protesters who support looting, killing cops

There was one dude they caught that was a Hella Angel that was part of the riots as well. But watching the video will show that the majority of the people are not Hells Angels or white supremacists.
Some people just hear what they want to hear.... Don't confuse them with the facts. :rolleyes:
 
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You forgot to show that they were actually BLM members, not just provocateurs who showed up to disrupt what you admitted was a:
Why not just admit that you don't have any such evidence?



... if some people commit crimes at what you admitted was a peaceful BLM protest, you are wrong to assume they are BLM members. As you just learned, many people have tried to infiltrate BLM protests and riot to blame BLM. Would you like me to show you again?

Sorry I missed where there was a claim that they were actual BLM members. By member meaning they actually signed up on the BLM website. You can think all the protestors are BLM members? Do you have evidence that all the peaceful protestors are BLM members?

The rioters are predominantly BLM supporters. And in Portland and Seattle they are also Antifa.

Eighteen Chicago Police Officers Injured After They Are Pelted With Rocks, Fireworks, Bottles & Other Projectiles | NewsRadio 740 KTRH | Michael Berry

Washington state mayor now calls BLM protests ‘domestic terrorism’ after her home vandalized

12 SPD officers injured, several businesses damaged in demonstration

These people are BLM supporters if not members. The police aren't going around checking all their BLM cards. And when you look at who is in the crowd doing this it's pretty obvious they aren't all white supremacists.
 
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I'm showing you numerous examples of racist police. There are a lot more. Do you want to see some more? This is what systemic racism is.



As you have seen, police often violate those rights, and they do it most frequently to racial minorities. Would you like me to show you that, again?



The many examples I showed you demonstrate that to be false. The good news is that Americans are starting to realize the problem, and most of us are supporting organizations like BLM, which are helping to root out the racists. Another good sign,is that it's increasingly dangerous for cops to vent racist spew on social media. Things are getting better. There's still a lot of problems out there, but we're getting more and more of the bad guys out of positions where they can hurt people.



The end of systemic racism. And it's working. As you learned, the attempts by right wing white nationalists to kill police and destroy property to frame BLM have been exposed. They've actually hurt their own agenda by doing so; BLM and other reform groups have gained sympathy thereby.

CBS Survey: 60 Percent Agree With Ideas Expressed by BLM
CBS Survey: 60 Percent Agree With Ideas Expressed by BLM

Racists are fighting a losing battle. It won't be over soon, but they are going to lose.

What you showed is there are racist cops. No big surprise. My answer is so? All professional and l people in all walks of life have some racists among them. That does not equate to systemic racism. There is such a tiny tiny minority in law enforcement as to be not systemic. There are about 686,000 LEO in the US. And how many have been found to proclaim racist ideas?

Floyd was not killed because he was black. he was black.

How many racist doctors are there? How many racist plumbers? How many racist lawyers? How many racist construction workers?
 
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What you showed is there are racist cops.

That, in itself, is not systemic racism. It's only systemic racism, when the cop uses his governmental authority to impose his racism on others.

Floyd was not killed because he was black.

You have examples where a police officer knelt on a white person's neck until he was dead, over a 20 dollar bill? That would be something. What do you have?

How many racist doctors are there? How many racist plumbers? How many racist lawyers? How many racist construction workers?

Probably a lot. But few, if any of them are able to impose systemic racism, because they lack the governmental power to do so.
 

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Sorry I missed where there was a claim that they were actual BLM members. By member meaning they actually signed up on the BLM website. You can think all the protestors are BLM members? Do you have evidence that all the peaceful protestors are BLM members?

I merely noted that all the violent rioters and those who killed police officers were right-wing or white nationalist terrorists pretending to be BLM or Antifa.

The rioters are predominantly BLM supporters.

See above. The evidence says otherwise. Do you have any of your own?

I know you really, really want it to be your way. But minus evidence, you're just giving us your fantasies. On the other hand, you have seen the fact that right-wing terrorists are infiltrating demonstrations and committing violent acts in an attempt to persuade the gullible that BLM is responsible. Police have caught them and have shown that they are continuing to do this.

Don't let them fool you.
 

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It's only systemic racism, when the cop uses his governmental authority to impose his racism on others.
It's NOT systemic when police act on their own. It's only systemic when it's part of the system--laws, rules, regulations, directives from the top, etc.
 

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Lol, that's what the hate-Trump media is saying, but you don't want to hear the truth!

I've asked to see your evidence, but you and your fellows seem remarkably shy about showing it.

Are you reading our posts where we're showing that Antifa members have been violent???

I would be surprised if they weren't. But still there's that problem of evidence...

Why do you assume that the whites rioting are "(so far) always right-wing extremists..." [/QUOTE]

I corrected your misattribution of my words in light gray. And there's no assumption necessary, because those caught so far have been right-wing extremists.

I'd be surprised if 100% of those rioting were right-wing terrorists. But they do seem to vastly outnumber other rioters.
 

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It's NOT systemic when police act on their own.

When they act under color of law, then it's systemic. If they aren't doing it under the power given to them by government, then it's not systemic.
 

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That, in itself, is not systemic racism. It's only systemic racism, when the cop uses his governmental authority to impose his racism on others.



You have examples where a police officer knelt on a white person's neck until he was dead, over a 20 dollar bill? That would be something. What do you have?



Probably a lot. But few, if any of them are able to impose systemic racism, because they lack the governmental power to do so.

You still have not shown systemic racism. Where is the evidence that Floyd was killed because he was black?

Secondly systemic racism is not one person or a couple of people being racist or abusing their authority in government because they are racist. That is a leftist construct. Systemic racism is a governmental system that is built specifically to abuse people of color. Like the Jim Crow laws. A single officer abusing his authority on a person strictly based upon the person's skin color is exhibiting personal racial bias. He is not exhibiting a bias of the system itself. Unless the system is specifically biased. Police are a part of the Justice System. Jim Crow laws were part if the Justice system and we're specifically biased against black people. And police who enforced those laws were showing systemic racism.

Since that is no longer a part of the system, police cannot exhibit systemic racism. They can exhibit personal racism. And when they do, they should be disciplined or fired.

And you believe a lot of doctors, lawyers, plumbers, etc. Are racist? How many are a lot? What's the percentage of "a lot?"
 

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I merely noted that all the violent rioters and those who killed police officers were right-wing or white nationalist terrorists pretending to be BLM or Antifa.



See above. The evidence says otherwise. Do you have any of your own?

I know you really, really want it to be your way. But minus evidence, you're just giving us your fantasies. On the other hand, you have seen the fact that right-wing terrorists are infiltrating demonstrations and committing violent acts in an attempt to persuade the gullible that BLM is responsible. Police have caught them and have shown that they are continuing to do this.

Don't let them fool you.

I gave you evidence. You don't believe it?
 

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I've asked to see your evidence, but you and your fellows seem remarkably shy about showing it.



I would be surprised if they weren't. But still there's that problem of evidence...

Why do you assume that the whites rioting are "(so far) always right-wing extremists..."

I corrected your misattribution of my words in light gray. And there's no assumption necessary, because those caught so far have been right-wing extremists.

I'd be surprised if 100% of those rioting were right-wing terrorists. But they do seem to vastly outnumber other rioters.[/QUOTE]

They vastly outnumber? What's your evidence of that? Let's just use the attack in Chicago that I posted. How many of them were white supremacists? How many were BLM supporters?