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When one come to God to learn of Him, HE takes you right back to crawling, one must crawl before one can stand, one must stand before one can walk, and one must walk before one can run.
Actually all that God requires is a humble, child-like faith to simply believe God and Christ, and what they have already revealed in His written Word.

If what you are saying is that the one who is born again is literally a babe in Christ, that is perfectly biblical. But babies are expected to grow up, and be weaned from milk on to solid food. And that is what God also expects of His children.
 

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When our first parents transgressed they came at once under desert of penalty. The Lord visited the garden but instead of then and there pronouncing their doom, and casting them forever away from His presence, He talked to them of a certain seed of the woman that should bruise the serpent’s head.

The curse, descending first upon the soil, and secondarily upon the man; first upon the serpent, and more gently on the woman, whose very pain would bring forth deliverance for the race and vengeance on the enemy.

The man and the woman each had a separate sentence, but how mild were these sentences compared with what they might have been. How joyful is the fact that over all, there was the sparing hand of G_D letting them live, and His voice promising them ultimate deliverance.

Would the Lord have spared them if He had not meant to show mercy? Would He not have crushed a sinful race even in its egg, and have blotted out forever those of whom not long after it repented Him that He had made them upon the earth?

Assuredly the Lord meant pardon when He tarried to inquire, “Adam, where are you?” In the morning of human history the Lord’s long-suffering displayed itself and gave promise of larger grace. The same is true of you and of me.

If G_D had no pardons would He not long ago have cut us down as cumberers of the ground? We sinned early in life, perhaps we sinned grossly in our youthful days, doing evil with great wantonness and willfulness, according to our obstinate hearts. Why did He not then say, “I will take these away, they will only go from bad to worse, and they will infect others with their vices. Therefore will I root them out lest they become injurious to those about them and a curse to future generations”?

But no, even a blasphemer was not smitten to death when he imprecated damnation upon himself. The Sabbath-breaker was not cut down when he made the Lord’s holy day to be an opportunity for wickedness. He that lied was not made a dreadful example of judgment like Ananias and Sapphira.

Why is not everyone to oppose Him, not swallowed up quickly like Korah, Dathan and Abiram. Why have they been spared to this day, to what end? Surely, the long-suffering of The Lord is repentance, and repentance is mercy. The Lord waits long because He wills not the death of any, but that they turn to Him.

Why did The Lord institute the ceremonial law if there were no ways of pardoning transgression?

Why the bullocks and the lambs offered in sacrifice? Why the shedding of blood if He did not intend to blot out sin? Why the burnt offerings in which The Lord accepted man’s gift, if man could not be accepted? Assuredly He could not be accepted if regarded as guilty.

Why the peace offering in which The Lord feasted with the offerer and the two united in feeding upon the one sacrifice? How could this be unless He intended to forgive and enter into fellowship with men?

Again, why was there a tabernacle for Him to dwell with His people if He would not forgive their iniquities? How could He dwell with unforgiven men? Why was there a mercy seat? Why was there a high priest ordained from among men who should enter into the holy place, and make a typical atonement?

Why the scapegoat to take away sin in symbol, if sin cannot be taken away in reality? Why the burning of the offering outside the gate in order that sin might be put away from The Lord’s people, if it could not be put away?

Certainly, the evident design of the whole Mosaic economy was to reveal to man the existence of mercy in the heart of God, and the effectual operation of that mercy in washing away sin.

Furthermore, if there were no forgiveness of sin why has the Lord given to sinful men exhortations to repent?

Why does the Lord say, “Turn you to your G_D: keep mercy and judgment and wait upon The Lord continually”?

Why does He cry, “Therefore also now, says the Lord, turn you even to Me with all your heart, and with fasting, and with weeping, and with mourning: and rend your heart, and not your garments, and turn unto the Lord your G_D”? Is it not because it can be added, “for He is gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repents Him of the evil”?

Is it not true, even as Elihu said, “He looks upon men, and if any say, I have sinned, and perverted that which was right, and it profited me not; He will deliver his soul from going into the pit, and his life shall see the light”?

If sin could not be pardoned why under the gospel are we bid to urge men to repent of sin, to confess their sins, and to forsake them? Might not the Lord have said, ‘Let them alone’?

John the Baptist’s cry of “Repent!” is a note of hope to transgressors. The times of their ignorance, The Lord winked at, but now under gospel rule, He commands all men everywhere to repent, why? because repentance is the pre-cursor to blotting out sin.
 

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That's like me. I've read lot's of books, but I don't time for too many books anymore, any time I have available for reading, I only want the Bible.

Books are fine, I don't have a problem with people writing or reading books, I only hope they are accurate and useful. It's just that for me, well, it's like trying to go back to a moped after getting used to a Harley Davidson.

Much love!
Praise God.

Isn't it nice to always use the Bible as our lone guide and source?

I used to enjoy commentary, but not anymore.

I just think the more man speaks, the higher the percentage of fiction they say.
 
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Praise God.

Isn't it nice to always use the Bible as our lone guide and source?

I used to enjoy commentary, but not anymore.

I just think the more man speaks, the higher the percentage of fiction they say.
Was making fun of long forum posts.
I agree 100%
The Lord has condescended to have everything written down in a book...what more is needed
 
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When our first parents transgressed they came at once under desert of penalty. The Lord visited the garden but instead of then and there pronouncing their doom, and casting them forever away from His presence, He talked to them of a certain seed of the woman that should bruise the serpent’s head.

The curse, descending first upon the soil, and secondarily upon the man; first upon the serpent, and more gently on the woman, whose very pain would bring forth deliverance for the race and vengeance on the enemy.

The man and the woman each had a separate sentence, but how mild were these sentences compared with what they might have been. How joyful is the fact that over all, there was the sparing hand of G_D letting them live, and His voice promising them ultimate deliverance.

Would the Lord have spared them if He had not meant to show mercy? Would He not have crushed a sinful race even in its egg, and have blotted out forever those of whom not long after it repented Him that He had made them upon the earth?

Assuredly the Lord meant pardon when He tarried to inquire, “Adam, where are you?” In the morning of human history the Lord’s long-suffering displayed itself and gave promise of larger grace. The same is true of you and of me.

If G_D had no pardons would He not long ago have cut us down as cumberers of the ground? We sinned early in life, perhaps we sinned grossly in our youthful days, doing evil with great wantonness and willfulness, according to our obstinate hearts. Why did He not then say, “I will take these away, they will only go from bad to worse, and they will infect others with their vices. Therefore will I root them out lest they become injurious to those about them and a curse to future generations”?

But no, even a blasphemer was not smitten to death when he imprecated damnation upon himself. The Sabbath-breaker was not cut down when he made the Lord’s holy day to be an opportunity for wickedness. He that lied was not made a dreadful example of judgment like Ananias and Sapphira.

Why is not everyone to oppose Him, not swallowed up quickly like Korah, Dathan and Abiram. Why have they been spared to this day, to what end? Surely, the long-suffering of The Lord is repentance, and repentance is mercy. The Lord waits long because He wills not the death of any, but that they turn to Him.

Why did The Lord institute the ceremonial law if there were no ways of pardoning transgression?

Why the bullocks and the lambs offered in sacrifice? Why the shedding of blood if He did not intend to blot out sin? Why the burnt offerings in which The Lord accepted man’s gift, if man could not be accepted? Assuredly He could not be accepted if regarded as guilty.

Why the peace offering in which The Lord feasted with the offerer and the two united in feeding upon the one sacrifice? How could this be unless He intended to forgive and enter into fellowship with men?

Again, why was there a tabernacle for Him to dwell with His people if He would not forgive their iniquities? How could He dwell with unforgiven men? Why was there a mercy seat? Why was there a high priest ordained from among men who should enter into the holy place, and make a typical atonement?

Why the scapegoat to take away sin in symbol, if sin cannot be taken away in reality? Why the burning of the offering outside the gate in order that sin might be put away from The Lord’s people, if it could not be put away?

Certainly, the evident design of the whole Mosaic economy was to reveal to man the existence of mercy in the heart of God, and the effectual operation of that mercy in washing away sin.

Furthermore, if there were no forgiveness of sin why has the Lord given to sinful men exhortations to repent?

Why does the Lord say, “Turn you to your G_D: keep mercy and judgment and wait upon The Lord continually”?

Why does He cry, “Therefore also now, says the Lord, turn you even to Me with all your heart, and with fasting, and with weeping, and with mourning: and rend your heart, and not your garments, and turn unto the Lord your G_D”? Is it not because it can be added, “for He is gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repents Him of the evil”?

Is it not true, even as Elihu said, “He looks upon men, and if any say, I have sinned, and perverted that which was right, and it profited me not; He will deliver his soul from going into the pit, and his life shall see the light”?

If sin could not be pardoned why under the gospel are we bid to urge men to repent of sin, to confess their sins, and to forsake them? Might not the Lord have said, ‘Let them alone’?

John the Baptist’s cry of “Repent!” is a note of hope to transgressors. The times of their ignorance, The Lord winked at, but now under gospel rule, He commands all men everywhere to repent, why? because repentance is the pre-cursor to blotting out sin.
I desire mercy, not sacrifice so i guess forgiveness blots them all out
 

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Matt 5:22
But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, ‘Raca!’ shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, ‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of hell fire.
 

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Mark 3:5
And when He had looked around at them with anger, being grieved by the hardness of their hearts, He said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” And he stretched it out, and his hand was restored as whole as the other.
 

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Strong's Greek: 4469. ῥακά (rhaka) -- empty (an expression of contempt)
so, whoever said to their brother "you good for nothing" would have been subject to their court system! Ive been trying (gave up tbh) to introduce how they had a literal law of sin and death then, seems to be something ppl dont want to hear for some reason.
Matt 5:22
But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, ‘Raca!’ shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, ‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of hell fire.
this is a great passage imo, once it has been interpreted personally for application irl
Mark 3:5
And when He had looked around at them with anger, being grieved by the hardness of their hearts, He said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” And he stretched it out, and his hand was restored as whole as the other.
imo our problem now is reading that literally
Exactly-I know which I would rather do.
ah, which?

"To make love to the angels of life,

You’re not a Christian.

Those lyrics are not written by a Christian..."

which dont get me wrong i understand lol
 

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Strong's Greek: 4469. ῥακά (rhaka) -- empty (an expression of contempt)
so, whoever said to their brother "you good for nothing" would have been subject to their court system! Ive been trying (gave up tbh) to introduce how they had a literal law of sin and death then, seems to be something ppl dont want to hear for some reason.

this is a great passage imo, once it has been interpreted personally for application irl

imo our problem now is reading that literally
:cool:
 

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Strong's Greek: 4469. ῥακά (rhaka) -- empty (an expression of contempt)
so, whoever said to their brother "you good for nothing" would have been subject to their court system! Ive been trying (gave up tbh) to introduce how they had a literal law of sin and death then, seems to be something ppl dont want to hear for some reason.

this is a great passage imo, once it has been interpreted personally for application irl

imo our problem now is reading that literally

ah, which?
Making him walk appears easier. Forgiveness is very difficult to do (from the heart)
 
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Strong's Greek: 4469. ῥακά (rhaka) -- empty (an expression of contempt)
so, whoever said to their brother "you good for nothing" would have been subject to their court system! Ive been trying (gave up tbh) to introduce how they had a literal law of sin and death then, seems to be something ppl dont want to hear for some reason.

this is a great passage imo, once it has been interpreted personally for application irl

imo our problem now is reading that literally

ah, which?

"To make love to the angels of life,

You’re not a Christian.

Those lyrics are not written by a Christian..."

which dont get me wrong i understand lol
That is not Christian music, as we both know. Yet you’ve posted it on a ‘Christian’ forum-if I don’t tell you, I will be held accountable. I would expect the same from you :)