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You still haven't told us your credentials for saying most of our English Bibles are wrong.
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first thanks for the reply, second, For in the NEW CREATION there will be NO NIGHT, so how can there be a torment Day and “NIGHT?” Revelation 22:5 "And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever." For there will be no need of the sun. and it is the sun shining, and the earth rotating to give us NIGHT and day. So if the torment occures it's in this time, for when God make all thing NEW there will be no TIME.
but he gives us the example to understand.
Matthew 18:32 "Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me:"
Matthew 18:33 "Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee?"
Matthew 18:34 "And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him." BINGO
Matthew 18:35 "So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses."
and the REPENTANT ONE
Luke 19:1 "And Jesus entered and passed through Jericho."
Luke 19:2 "And, behold, there was a man named Zacchaeus, which was the chief among the publicans, and he was rich."
Luke 19:3 "And he sought to see Jesus who he was; and could not for the press, because he was little of stature."
Luke 19:4 "And he ran before, and climbed up into a sycomore tree to see him: for he was to pass that way."
Luke 19:5 "And when Jesus came to the place, he looked up, and saw him, and said unto him, Zacchaeus, make haste, and come down; for to day I must abide at thy house."
Luke 19:6 "And he made haste, and came down, and received him joyfully."
Luke 19:7 "And when they saw it, they all murmured, saying, That he was gone to be guest with a man that is a sinner."
Luke 19:8 "And Zacchaeus stood, and said unto the Lord; Behold, Lord, the half of my goods I give to the poor; and if I have taken any thing from any man by false accusation, I restore him fourfold."
Luke 19:9 "And Jesus said unto him, This day is salvation come to this house, forsomuch as he also is a son of Abraham."
Luke 19:10 "For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost."
understand the contrast between the two. and "Gnashing of teeth" is just what the unrepentant Jews will do when they realize their error abut the Lord Jesus the Christ.
but there will be NO "NIGHTS" in the NEW CREATION. hence no torment, day and "Night".
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Why don't you ask God? He said it.
Revelation 20:10 And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
So you're saying Hell is only temporary? Like Purgatory? Nah, the NT mentions "everlasting", "eternal", "forever and ever" too many times. Hell is indeed eternal.
Not trying to speak for you but think for you.
You say God became a man.
I just asked how big that man was originally when God became one?
I taught God became a man for over 30 years, but never thought about what I was saying, myself.
Now I think about it.
Try it, see what happens...
I picked #1(microscopic).
Here is what happened.
God made flesh(microscopic sperm cell).
It mated with Mary's egg.
This qualified Jesus was being BEGOTTEN by God and Mary.
This qualified Jesus as the official, only BEGOTTEN son of God.
This also qualified Jesus to be a literal son of man(kind/Mary/David/ seed of Abraham).
He was not both God and man, but God and man's son. But with God INSIDE him.
That is the Bible truth, before the "scholars" got a hold of it.
You're trying to understand the Christian Book of miracles by unGodly wisdom.
1 Corinthians 2
14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Some folks try to "tell you" what the verse means.
I highlight the verse so it can tell you what it means, then you draw your own conclusion.
You either agree with the verse or not.
Highlighting is proper, but commentary is fishy.
No difference. Jesus is the Creator.
Colossians 1
16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. 17 And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. 18 And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence.
The mystery of the Godhead has been revealed 2000 years ago per 1 Tim 3:16.
Don't be late for the party...
Amen, it's quite clear! "The Word was God" "The Word became flesh and dwelt among us"
Jesus is God!
1 Timothy 3
16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory.
But we already knew all that.
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