Dare I ask this...

Taken said:

Because the fact is: those masks do not filter, prevent or destroy a corona virus.

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While I appreciate the info you've provided (even the apparent sarcasm about NEWS), you are quite likely incorrect about this because, since (if you go by specific, fairly unchallenged, expert advice) the virus is carried primarily by liquid that is emitted from the mouth and nose when coughing or sneezing, masks do, effectively help prevent the spread of the virus. I figured that out using common sense. Also, when you see millions of Asian (who seem to fall victim to this kind of thing so frequently) people doing it on TV even outside, it seems like it might be a good idea.

Backlit said:

It is available, even in the v vitamin sections if pharmacies, in some countries. For example Indonesia.

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So how are things going in Indonesia? I looked it up. The mortality rate, if you get this virus, is rather high.

I still am. Isn't it really just a modification of the Corona virus which had been around for a while? Aren't all flu viruses modifications or morphs of previous viruses? In fact, isn't that precisely why the flu vaccine for one season is less effective next season, and eventually totally ineffective altogether,?

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Not "totally ineffective." Flu vaccines usually contain antibodies for several of the latest strains of the flu virus. If a new virulent strain emerges too late to be part of the vaccination effort, the vaccine that year may not be very good -- certainly not as good as years when a new virulent strain hasn't emerged.

Work is being done also on new types of vaccines which could work on several strains since they would be related to key molecules of the DNA shared by all the strains.

So also with covid... Vaccinating the entire planet as Bill Gates suggests is just a scam. Next year the same vaccine won't work. And whatever it costs governments, aka us, is going straight into the pockets of Bill and Melinda. They are playing on the fears of people who are essentially cognitively blind. And I haven't gone into the goal of global tyranny through one world Government.

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You have no real evidence for this assertion about the Gates. He doesn't make money by vaccines. He made his money by Microsoft. He has given away money he made from Microsoft to WHO and other organizations combating diseases.

People talk about fake news. Well, I'd say you've fallen for it. You are imagining that people who are trying to help are really your enemies. You have been played. Why talk about other people being cognitively blind when you allow your imagination to run riot when someone whispers how evil Bill Gates is? You are a very fearful person, Backlit. You never met Bill Gates. Neither have I, but I know people who have. He's not the way you imagine. I consider it unchristian to say such things about other people without real evidence. People have gotten so upset with Dr. Fauci for daring to express disagreement with Trump, that he's getting death threats. Something is seriously wrong with the kind of Trump supporter who is that extreme in his paranoia about Fauci; but he reads junk on the internet about Fauci that seems to explain Trump's failures, and since he loves Trump and wants to keep loving him, he buys the explanation. Other people may not adore Trump but still believe rumors they hear about Fauci. It's a lot easier to besmirch someone's reputation than to clear it.

You have also accused me of attacking Trump because I dislike him personally. I don't know him. I can only go by what he says and does. When I post here about him, it's not vague unsubstantiated charges made up out of thin air. Most of the time, I'm responding to the real things he's said and done. There are court cases now about him -- and when I discuss them, I don't say he's guilty because someone accused him. I am careful about what I say. I say so-and-so has accused him of this or that. Why would I say he's guilty when I don't know if he is or isn't?

As for a vaccine? Trump is right to hope for one. He might even get reelected if he can brag about it being developed in the US. Judging how reckless he is with taxpayers' money, I'd guess he might be willing to spend trillions to the drug company who manufactures it. Maybe not. He's talking a lot like a "socialist" when it comes to regulating the price of drugs.

One big problem as I see it i show big and powerful corporations are allowed to become under the guise of "free enterprise." The problem I have with Gates is that Microsoft is so big and powerful. It has some competition but it is still overwhelmingly dominant. Now there's talk about it buying TikTok. I have the same problem with Facebook which keeps growing more powerful. In some ways, these companies have more power over us than our governments -- and we can't vote them out. I have the same problem with You Tube and Twitter. If they ban someone, people complain about it -- but few seem to see the real problem -- the lack of real competition.

Giuliano said:

You digress.

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Or maybe he hit on what’s really important! What most Americans actually want for our families, what parents want for our children! We’ll see in November if the anarchists don’t derail the election process.

Taken said:

A surgical mask becomes contaminated the moment Your bare hands touch it.

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Taken said:

Wearing a mask does not protect a person from a virus that can penetrate a mask or become air born.

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Agreed, but it does help protect those around you from the emissions caused by a sneeze or a cough.

Taken said:

Personally I've never been a fan of crowded places, but to your point, I can not recall a Time of not being prepared with a tissue.

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When I was a teenager, my mother would say to me: "You'd argue with a fencepost." I've come to know how she felt. Let me assure you, most people are not prepared with a tissue. My daughter works at a hospital in the ICU where she watches people struggle to breathe because of people who won't wear masks and aren't prepared with a tissue.

https://www.newsweek.com/europeans-say-covid-19-revealed-america-fragile-inconsiderate-1523860

Sorry @bbyrd009, Newsweek again.

Candidus said:

The FDA approves cigarettes and e-cigarettes. Do you believe that they have any credibility?

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This idea that the government has the peoples health as their number one concern is just wishful thinking when they allow known carcinogenics to be sold over the counter

Update...
Don’t trust the statistics and fear mongering.

Jefferson county Missouri cases 1974 Deaths 28

St. Francois county Missouri cases 462 Deaths 2

Farmington is in St. Francois county.

The hospital in Farmington serves 8 other towns: Potosi, Park Hills, Ironton, Arcadia, Bonne Terre, Leadwood, Desloge, and Fredericktown.

There are no cases of Covid in the BJC hospital in Farmington and they had only one since this all started. The one case in this hospital survived using hydroxychloroquine and zithromax. There have been no Covid deaths in this area, unless they died in another hospital out of the area. So the two deaths if they occurred, occurred somewhere out of the area.

462 cases listed….really? I know of none nor anyone I know has known of any, except for the one that went to the hospital? I am pretty well connected to the community, if there were 462 cases, someone would have talked about it. And with all the fear mongering they are saying that only one went to the hospital? I don’t think so.

Jefferson County is north of us and closer to St. Louis, out of the “Mineral Area” which I think is the reason for the lack of Covid in this area. Business and traffic is near to normal here and few masks are seen unless you go into a corporate type store like Walmart or Walgreen’s. Have not seen masks in restaurants. The churches are open and I have seen a few masks there. The schools are going to open. Camping and lakes are open and boating in progress.

Grailhunter said:

Update...
Don’t trust the statistics and fear mongering.

Jefferson county Missouri cases 1974 Deaths 28

St. Francois county Missouri cases 462 Deaths 2

The hospital in Farmington serves 8 other towns: Potosi, Park Hills, Ironton, Arcadia, Bonne Terre, Leadwood, Desloge, and Fredericktown.

There are no cases of Covid in the BJC hospital in Farmington and they had only one since this all started. The one case in this hospital survived using hydroxychloroquine and zithromax. There have been no Covid deaths in this area, unless they died in another hospital out of the area. So the two deaths if they occurred, occurred somewhere out of the area.

462 cases listed….really? I know of none nor anyone I know has known of any, except for the one that went to the hospital? I am pretty well connected to the community, if there were 462 cases, someone would have talked about it. And with all the fear mongering they are saying that only one went to the hospital? I don’t think so.

Jefferson County is north of us and closer to St. Louis, out of the “Mineral Area” which I think is the reason for the lack of Covid in this area. Business and traffic is near to normal here and few masks are seen unless you go into a corporate type store like Walmart or Walgreen’s. Have not seen masks in restaurants. The churches are open and I have seen a few masks there. The schools are going to open. Camping and lakes are open and boating in progress.

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I really love the way the U.S. is compared to other countries of only 50 million people. The U.S. has nearly half of the population of the entirety of Europe (which has roughly twice the population density). When I was a young fellow they used to say, a lot, "It's like comparing apples and oranges."

Heart2Soul said:

Masks create warm humid air which can be a perfect habitat for germs to grow. In addition you lose quality of oxygen...the nose cools and filters the air we breathe....masks becomes a recycling source where you rebreathe the air you expel...and what you expel carries germs from the mouth and any bacteria in the lungs and it is denser in CO2.

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Hypotheses notwithstanding, coughing or sneezing through a mask is less dangerous to those around you than is coughing or sneezing without one. Wear or don't wear as you see fit. I wear one in close quarters as a courtesy to those around me. I believe it is wise as serpents and harmless as doves (Matthew 10:16).

Heart2Soul said:

Masks create warm humid air which can be a perfect habitat for germs to grow. In addition you lose quality of oxygen...the nose cools and filters the air we breathe....masks becomes a recycling source where you rebreathe the air you expel...and what you expel carries germs from the mouth and any bacteria in the lungs and it is denser in CO2.

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Haven't we found that the virus is no respecter of temperature or levels of humidity?