What Keeps Us From Sinning In Heaven?

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How will we keep from sinning throughout eternity?


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ChristisGod

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You do have a high opinion of yourself, don't you?

Why do you ask? There is something you do not know?
was your jesus fully God on this earth for 33 years lacking nothing in His Divinity ?

Was He Omnipotent,Omnipresent,Omniscient and Immutable ?
 

ChristisGod

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I can recognize braggarts when I see them.

Matthew 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
James 1:22-23
Anyone who listens to the word but does not do what it says is like someone who looks at his face in a mirror 24 and, after looking at himself, goes away and immediately forgets what he looks like.
 

BarneyFife

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was your jesus fully God on this earth for 33 years lacking nothing in His Divinity ?

Was He Omnipotent,Omnipresent,Omniscient and Immutable ?
Yes and no. It is a paradox. Paradox must be recognized to understand Scripture. You know full well that there are parts of Scripture that appear to contradict each other. Be honest.
 
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interesting to me that the 70 were (really 72) sent to proclaim the Good News, but told stay in one house while you are there, and eat what they feed you--not "feed them what you know"
 

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was your jesus fully God on this earth for 33 years lacking nothing in His Divinity ?

Was He Omnipotent,Omnipresent,Omniscient and Immutable ?
As if God were not permitted by you to lay aside a portion of His powers and deploy Himself. What rubbish. With God all things are possible.
 
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BarneyFife

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James 1:22-23
Anyone who listens to the word but does not do what it says is like someone who looks at his face in a mirror 24 and, after looking at himself, goes away and immediately forgets what he looks like.
And if anyone thinks that he knows anything, he knows nothing yet as he ought to know. (1 Corinthians 8:2)
 

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There is some comic about it. On one hand, he says he studies the Bible in its original languages, but then he's at a loss when someone quotes part of it in English? I think he may be joking around with us. When I asked about the allusions to scripture, he said he didn't miss them -- but then he said he couldn't find the scriptures themselves. How can he recognize an allusion without knowing what it's alluding to?


You would do well to read again, and more slowly what I ACTUALLY posted.

Also the "allusions" were in quote marks, indicating that I did not consider them to really refer to Scripture.

You are thus in error on several counts:
  1. It is the obligation of the one making the claim that what was posted actually came from Scripture; hence the CFR.
  2. If something is not in the Bible, it is then NOT IN THE BIBLE. Therefore your fault-finding is as inane as it is frivolous.
  3. When I joke around, I often use an emoticon to let others know not to take the post seriously
  4. What you guys have done is to turn my posts against me. I am NOT the issue here.
  5. Despite all your personal kvetching, NONE of you have supplied the Scriptures to which you "alluded". In the many subsequent posts, each of you were given opportunity to cite those non-existent Scripture verses, and that would have immediately ended this farce of a discussion.
  6. At this point, your collective non-responses is that neither of you have Scripture evidence to back up your opinions, or else you would have posted them.
  7. Thus the absence of evidence from Scripture is evidence that your standards of your sources of belief are not found in the Bible. In other words, you create your own god, then worship it.
 

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Generally speaking:

If I post truth, I am not a troll

If I post seeking clarification, I am not a troll.

Specifically speaking:

I have no idea of the specific post to which you refer, and IMO it is not wrong to seek understanding of fuzzy phrased posts. Actually, I am doing what I have always done on another unnamed forum for many years; I seek to have definitions of terms, and use the Bible in those definitions.

Another reason for doing that is that I see posts that are not in keeping with traditional Christian teachings, and the posters claim to be "Christian". For example, there are some Mormons who claim to be "Christian" and they are far removed from any conventional definition of "Christian" in what they have posted.

BTW I am personally very insistent on backing things up through the use of Scripture in its context. I do that because any verse ripped from its context is a pretext 100% of the time.
Note: this site completely acknowledges ALL whom claim Christ as Christians. That includes BarneyFile, me (a "Mormon"), you, etc.

If you want to engage in conversation, it is best done thoughtfully and with respect.

Anything that remotely sounds like trolling people are going to take as trolling and ignore -- that's just how humans work.
 

BarneyFife

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Generally speaking:

If I post truth, I am not a troll

If I post seeking clarification, I am not a troll.

Specifically speaking:

I have no idea of the specific post to which you refer, and IMO it is not wrong to seek understanding of fuzzy phrased posts. Actually, I am doing what I have always done on another unnamed forum for many years; I seek to have definitions of terms, and use the Bible in those definitions.

Another reason for doing that is that I see posts that are not in keeping with traditional Christian teachings, and the posters claim to be "Christian". For example, there are some Mormons who claim to be "Christian" and they are far removed from any conventional definition of "Christian" in what they have posted.

BTW I am personally very insistent on backing things up through the use of Scripture in its context. I do that because any verse ripped from its context is a pretext 100% of the time.
If you have to say "I'm not a troll"...
 
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BarneyFife

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You would do well to read again, and more slowly what I ACTUALLY posted.

Also the "allusions" were in quote marks, indicating that I did not consider them to really refer to Scripture.

You are thus in error on several counts:
  1. It is the obligation of the one making the claim that what was posted actually came from Scripture; hence the CFR.
  2. If something is not in the Bible, it is then NOT IN THE BIBLE. Therefore your fault-finding is as inane as it is frivolous.
  3. When I joke around, I often use an emoticon to let others know not to take the post seriously
  4. What you guys have done is to turn my posts against me. I am NOT the issue here.
  5. Despite all your personal kvetching, NONE of you have supplied the Scriptures to which you "alluded". In the many subsequent posts, each of you were given opportunity to cite those non-existent Scripture verses, and that would have immediately ended this farce of a discussion.
  6. At this point, your collective non-responses is that neither of you have Scripture evidence to back up your opinions, or else you would have posted them.
  7. Thus the absence of evidence from Scripture is evidence that your standards of your sources of belief are not found in the Bible. In other words, you create your own god, then worship it.
Again, the lengthy explanations of ill behavior don't justify them.
 
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James 1:22-23
Anyone who listens to the word but does not do what it says is like someone who looks at his face in a mirror 24 and, after looking at himself, goes away and immediately forgets what he looks like.
What about the person who reads his Bible and then can't remember what he read? I'll cite a few things from Byrd's post which prompted John T to say there was no scripture in it.

Byrd: im sure there is an interpretation that does not violate your bargain with the grave will be cancelled

Do we recognize where that idea came from? Why didn't John T know?

Isaiah 28:18 And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.

Byrd: after all it doesnt say "you will see Him come down the same way they saw Him go up" or anything, right, i mean you actually post vv that help my argument, Jesus Himself telling those ("Galileans") standing there that they will see Him come down? 2000 years ago? Huh?

He's right. The Bible does not mention us. The promise was to them. Maybe you will see Jesus coming in a cloud -- but that promise was to them.

Acts 1:11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

John T could not figure this out? Apparently not.
 

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I am highly adverse to opinion being posted without any Scripture in context to back it up.
You might want to check out Grammarly. I think the word you're looking for here is "averse." Unless opinions have made you sick or poor.
 
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PS: this site completely acknowledges ALL whom claim Christ as Christians. That includes BarneyFile, me (a "Mormon"), you, etc.

If you want to engage in conversation, it is best done thoughtfully and with respect.

Anything that remotely sounds like trolling people are going to take as trolling and ignore -- that's just how humans work.

According to the history and teachings of Joseph Smith, y'all are not Christian. He hated Christianity, and the HJS proves it. That is the truth, I stated it plainly, and without rancor.

You may not like what I posted, but your opinion of truth posted "thoughtfully and with respect" (according to your criteria) does not come close to trolling.

But this particular forum as I understand it, is not about Mormonism. Thus, I will not follow that rabbit trail
 

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was your jesus fully God on this earth for 33 years lacking nothing in His Divinity ?

Was He Omnipotent,Omnipresent,Omniscient and Immutable ?

John 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

Mark 13:32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.