The Hypocrisy Of False Expressions

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[size="+3"]The Hypocrisy of False Expressions[/size]
-- 1 Tim. 4:1-2


(or, "a demonstration of the strange influence of demons")

... among Christians
What They Say .....>..... What They Mean
"There's nothing you must do to be saved......" ....>.... "Here's what you must do to be saved:"


"You are absolutely, totally helpless to save yourself." ....>.... "You must make a wise decision in order to be saved."


"God controls all things." ....>.... "God doesn't control man's free will."


"We can't boast about going to heaven." ....>.... "If we go to hell, it's our own fault."


"Love never faileth!" ....>... "Love can't overcome human stubborness."


"Men are in bondage to sin." ....>..... "Men are free to choose Christ."


"Grace is unmerited favor..." ....>..... "... given only to those who merit it with faith and

obedience."

"GOD IS THE SAVIOR OF ALL MANKIND(1 Tim. 4:10)..." ....>..... "... except for about ninety percent of them."


"GOD'S LOVE IN UNCONDITIONAL..." .....>... "... as long as you meet certain conditions."


"GOD'S WILL IS UNOPPOSABLE..." ....>.... "... except by the sinner."


"Salvation is not a thing of chance." .....>.... "There is no second chance to be saved."


"WE HAVE GOOD NEWS FOR YOU !" .....>..... "Most of mankind will perish forever."


"GOD LOVES YOU !" ....>..... "... as long as you love Him."


"Christ died for all sin..." .....>.... "... except the sin of not believing that He died for all sin."


"The Good Shepherd seeks the lost sheep until he finds it !" ....>..... "The Good Shepherd seeks until it's too late."


"God's justice was satisfied in the cross of Christ." .....>.... "God's justice demands eternal torment or annihilation."
 
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You too can be saved if you will accept Christ as your Lord and Savior. You must confess Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior before man and follow him. There are true Christians now just as Peter, Paul and John. Accept Christ and follow in believers baptism and join a local church body of belivers. Don't put off salvation; it won't be available forever. Repent before it's too late. You sound like a man with a desperate cry.




jiggyfly said:
[size="+3"]The Hypocrisy of False Expressions[/size]
-- 1 Tim. 4:1-2


(or, "a demonstration of the strange influence of demons")

... among Christians
What They Say .....>..... What They Mean
"There's nothing you must do to be saved......" ....>.... "Here's what you must do to be saved:"


"You are absolutely, totally helpless to save yourself." ....>.... "You must make a wise decision in order to be saved."


"God controls all things." ....>.... "God doesn't control man's free will."


"We can't boast about going to heaven." ....>.... "If we go to hell, it's our own fault."


"Love never faileth!" ....>... "Love can't overcome human stubborness."


"Men are in bondage to sin." ....>..... "Men are free to choose Christ."


"Grace is unmerited favor..." ....>..... "... given only to those who merit it with faith and

obedience."

"GOD IS THE SAVIOR OF ALL MANKIND(1 Tim. 4:10)..." ....>..... "... except for about ninety percent of them."


"GOD'S LOVE IN UNCONDITIONAL..." .....>... "... as long as you meet certain conditions."


"GOD'S WILL IS UNOPPOSABLE..." ....>.... "... except by the sinner."


"Salvation is not a thing of chance." .....>.... "There is no second chance to be saved."


"WE HAVE GOOD NEWS FOR YOU !" .....>..... "Most of mankind will perish forever."


"GOD LOVES YOU !" ....>..... "... as long as you love Him."


"Christ died for all sin..." .....>.... "... except the sin of not believing that He died for all sin."


"The Good Shepherd seeks the lost sheep until he finds it !" ....>..... "The Good Shepherd seeks until it's too late."


"God's justice was satisfied in the cross of Christ." .....>.... "God's justice demands eternal torment or annihilation."
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Samuel Pickens said:
You too can be saved if you will accept Christ as your Lord and Savior. You must confess Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior before man and follow him. There are true Christians now just as Peter, Paul and John. Accept Christ and follow in believers baptism and join a local church body of belivers. Don't put off salvation; it won't be available forever. Repent before it's too late. You sound like a man with a desperate cry.
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Nice argument to the OP
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Samuel Pickens said:
Jesus Christ is Lord! This is not a joke and not something to make fun of. Do not laugh at Christ's salvation. It is not to be argued. Repent! Read Acts Ch 5.
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Sam i dont think its right you trying to judge jiggy here. Heres another false expression "once saved always saved" that satment is false in the fact that if a person decides to make a statment of faith weather it be with or without the aid of a preacher. Salvation comes by way of rightousness and weather or not that person is living by gods word and has accepted jesus. Matthew 7:16, Matthew 7:17, Matthew 7:18, Matthew 7:19, Matthew 7:20, Matthew 7:21 Matthew 7:22, Matthew 7:23, John 15:2 and John 15:6.

Jiggy doesnt need to confess to a man to be saved he can go to the father and accept christ himself, but thats not the issue the issue that you yourself preach repentance but are you yourself producing good fruit well enough to juge another person. The answer is no because if you are a child of the lord you would not play judge but rather go deeper into the subject of gods word and encourage jiggy through faith not by judgments.
 
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Thanks for your judgement of me. No one can go to the father except through Jesus Christ. Any other way is the same as a theif and robber. You clearly err. My sheep hear my voice and I know them and they follow me and I give unto them eternal life. Repent, accept Christ as your Lord and Savior. Follow Christ in believers baptism. Assemble in a local chruch of believers and do not forsake that assembling. Also follow Christ ordanances.

Salvation comes by faith, not righteousness. You cannot work your way to Heaven or be good enough to get there. The song of the martyrs was Jehovah Tsidkenu. Christ is our righteousness. Your righteousness is as filthy rags. Your good works and deed cannot get you to Heaven. And you have not the power to keep yourself. Trying to rob Christ of His finished work is something that won't work.




gumby said:
Sam i dont think its right you trying to judge jiggy here. Heres another false expression "once saved always saved" that satment is false in the fact that if a person decides to make a statment of faith weather it be with or without the aid of a preacher. Salvation comes by way of rightousness and weather or not that person is living by gods word and has accepted jesus. Matthew 7:16, Matthew 7:17, Matthew 7:18, Matthew 7:19, Matthew 7:20, Matthew 7:21 Matthew 7:22, Matthew 7:23, John 15:2 and John 15:6.

Jiggy doesnt need to confess to a man to be saved he can go to the father and accept christ himself, but thats not the issue the issue that you yourself preach repentance but are you yourself producing good fruit well enough to juge another person. The answer is no because if you are a child of the lord you would not play judge but rather go deeper into the subject of gods word and encourage jiggy through faith not by judgments.
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Samuel Pickens said:
Thanks for your judgement of me. No one can go to the father except through Jesus Christ. Any other way is the same as a theif and robber. You clearly err. My sheep hear my voice and I know them and they follow me and I give unto them eternal life. Repent, accept Christ as your Lord and Savior. Follow Christ in believers baptism. Assemble in a local chruch of believers and do not forsake that assembling. Also follow Christ ordanances.

Salvation comes by faith, not righteousness. You cannot work your way to Heaven or be good enough to get there. The song of the martyrs was Jehovah Tsidkenu. Christ is our righteousness. Your righteousness is as filthy rags. Your good works and deed cannot get you to Heaven. And you have not the power to keep yourself. Trying to rob Christ of His finished work is something that won't work.
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I think you need to study up on gods word before you start to cast false judments. Our righteousness as christians plays a big part in our salvation. Genesis 15:6, Romans 4:3, Romans 4:5, Romans 4:24, Psalms 9:8, Psalms 11:7, Psalms 18:20, Psalms 45:7, Psalms 96:13, Psalms 106:3, Psalms 10:2, Psalms 11:4, Proverbs 11:5, Proverbs 15:9, Isaiah 61:10, Matthew 5:6, Matthew 5:10, Romans 8:10, Romans 10:4 and Revelation 19:8.

I hope you learn the truth brother, god bless.
 
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gumby said:
I think you need to study up on gods word before you start to cast false judments. Our righteousness as christians plays a big part in our salvation. Genesis 15:6, Romans 4:3, Romans 4:5, Romans 4:24, Psalms 9:8, Psalms 11:7, Psalms 18:20, Psalms 45:7, Psalms 96:13, Psalms 106:3, Psalms 10:2, Psalms 11:4, Proverbs 11:5, Proverbs 15:9, Isaiah 61:10, Matthew 5:6, Matthew 5:10, Romans 8:10, Romans 10:4 and Revelation 19:8.

I hope you learn the truth brother, god bless.
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Our righteousness is as filthy rags. Christ and His righteousness is all I have. It is His finished work that brings forth salvation. You cannot do things to get yourself to Heaven.

Many think they are kept by their own works and take part in their own salvation. But Christ is the only way. He alone can atone. My sheep hear my voice and I know them and they follow me and I give unto them eternal life and they shall never perish. Read John 10:27-31. If you think by your deeds you'll get to Heaven you are sadly mistaken.
 
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I think the many of the dualities that are stated in the original post are based on different interpretations of the Word.
I can think of many examples but one that sticks in my mind is where God commands Abraham to slay his son, this has been interpreted in two distinctive ways,

1) The Christian view is that God was testing Abrahams obedience and did not actually want Abraham to kill his son.
2) The Muslim view is that God can and wants us to kill for Him, if commanded.

It is very subtle but gives rise to a major difference in how we view God;

Could God command us to kill - certainly.
Does God want us to kill - that is the question.

I believe in a loving, caring God... A minor sect of Muslims believe that is is okay to kill Christians for their believes, however Jesus taught us differently, He told us to love our enemies.

If you hear something that makes you go "Eh, that doesn't sound/feel right" It more than likely the spirit of Christ that dwells within us saying "these ways are not my ways". Thats how i know if something is His way.

Edit: Sorry i didn't mean to generalise Christians or Muslims, i've made sweeping statements in order to make a point - please don't be offended if you're views differ.
 
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Ubergeek said:
"Could God command us to kill - certainly.
Does God want us to kill - that is the question."



Just providing a scripture that shows sometimes it is called for.
 
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Samuel Pickens said:
You too can be saved if you will accept Christ as your Lord and Savior. You must confess Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior before man and follow him. There are true Christians now just as Peter, Paul and John. Accept Christ and follow in believers baptism and join a local church body of belivers. Don't put off salvation; it won't be available forever. Repent before it's too late. You sound like a man with a desperate cry.
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Hi Juggyfly,

I noticed in your post that there are false teachings mixed among you other statements. I believe that is the reason for the seeming contradictions.
 
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