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I think that if the Dem leaders had their way about it the Bible would be banned and replaced by the Koran.

Im sure about that exactly, but I think they would support banning the Bible but allow the Koran so they wouldn't come across as bigoted. I think if they really had their way there would be NO religion at all.
 

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well, there is the 'moving his lips' thing....
 

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If you can't see what's wrong with clearing a street using tear gas and rubber bullets so you can go wave a Bible, I guess you may be a hopeless case. I think you are out of touch with reality. Obama was not a Muslim. I liked how he sang Amazing Grace at a funeral where it was appropriate. And he wasn't doing a solo act. It inspired others.

What I have seen of Methodist they have nothing to truly do with Jesus Christ, they are more like the freemasons pushing a worldly religious barrow, everything goes, Islam comes into the mix you name it. boy just like Pope Frances the creepy worldly dead beat.
 

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What I have seen of Methodist they have nothing to truly do with Jesus Christ, they are more like the freemasons pushing a worldly religious barrow, everything goes, Islam comes into the mix you name it. boy just like Pope Frances the creepy worldly dead beat.
So you think the song Amazing Grace is satanic? And Pope Francis isn't a Christian? Hmmm.
 
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What a wild debate has this turned out to be, I simply highlighted what good Michelle Obama had to say, those weren't empty words. Both the Obamas might be left wing, but they are still Christian.

I am not a fan of some of the comments that have been directed towards Obama and Hillary Clinton in the past, some things that were said about them in the past are some of the worst labels anyone could name another Christian.
 
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What a wild debate has this turned out to be, I simply highlighted what good Michelle Obama had to say, those weren't empty words. Both the Obamas might be left wing, but they are still Christian.

I am not a fan of some of the comments that have been directed towards Obama and Hillary Clinton in the past, some things that were said about them in the past are some of the worst labels anyone could name another Christian.
It might get wilder as we approach the election. I think there are some Trump supporters who fear Americans are going to prefer the appeal for civility over the angry tone of Trump. The angrier Trump and his supporters get, the more other people may be turned off and go vote for Biden.
 
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It might get wilder as we approach the election. I think there are some Trump supporters who fear Americans are going to prefer the appeal for civility over the angry tone of Trump. The angrier Trump and his supporters get, the more other people may be turned off and go vote for Biden.

Have you seen what's actually happening in the cities? Who are the angry ones? Who are the ones actually committing acts of violence and destruction? Who are the ones marching into neighborhoods and harassing the citizens in their homes?

Sorry, it's not the Trump supporters.

Who are the ones shutting down churches and burning Bibles? While allowing protests.

It's not the Two supporters.
 
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It might get wilder as we approach the election. I think there are some Trump supporters who fear Americans are going to prefer the appeal for civility over the angry tone of Trump. The angrier Trump and his supporters get, the more other people may be turned off and go vote for Biden.
LOL!
 

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What a wild debate has this turned out to be, I simply highlighted what good Michelle Obama had to say, those weren't empty words. Both the Obamas might be left wing, but they are still Christian.

I am not a fan of some of the comments that have been directed towards Obama and Hillary Clinton in the past, some things that were said about them in the past are some of the worst labels anyone could name another Christian.
I listen to what people say, but it’s what they DO that matters most. The FACT that she supports the barbaric practice of partial-birth abortion speaks volumes about her character. I don’t understand why you’re not getting this.
 
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Have you seen what's actually happening in the cities? Who are the angry ones? Who are the ones actually committing acts of violence and destruction? Who are the ones marching into neighborhoods and harassing the citizens in their homes?

Sorry, it's not the Trump supporters.

Who are the ones shutting down churches and burning Bibles? While allowing protests.

It's not the Two supporters.
Depends on where you get your news, I guess. If you visit the Epoch Times, you may have half the picture.

Why were people with guns protesting in Michigan, even invading the legislature building? There was a protest with guns close to where I live too, but they didn't break into the state legislature. Trump tweeted, "Revolution." He seemed to like the idea of armed protesters.

You might be protesting too if you were black and worried about how the police treat people.

So far as I know, one Bible was burned. I have heard of churches being told to obey certain restrictions; and they didn't. Then they spread coronavirus. They broke the law but few if any were prosecuted.
 
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Depends on where you get your news, I guess. If you visit the Epoch Times, you may have half the picture.

Why were people with guns protesting in Michigan, even invading the legislature building? There was a protest with guns close to where I live too, but they didn't break into the state legislature. Trump tweeted, "Revolution." He seemed to like the idea of armed protesters.

You might be protesting too if you were black and worried about how the police treat people.

So far as I know, one Bible was burned. I have heard of churches being told to obey certain restrictions; and they didn't. Then they spread coronavirus. They broke the law but few if any were prosecuted.

What an unintelligible mixture of issues you mention in this post. You must be tired.
 
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It is not surprising that various democrats at the DNC left out the words "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag. No surprise, and that is the least of the Godless ideologies of this political party. Godless party...you do not agree? How do you think the democrats at the DNC would answer these questions, if a reporter asked them?
What is your position on abortion?
Your position on homosexuality?
Your position on drug use?
Your position on the leftist form of communism?
Your position on law and order?
Your position on law enforcement?
Your position on the rioters in the democratic run cities?
Your position on shutting down churches in democratic run states?
Your position on school prayer?
Your position on our schools teaching our children to be communists and atheists?
Your position on Christian monuments?
Your position on illegal aliens and secure borders?

So the next logical question; Is how can anyone that calls themselves a Christian, vote for a democrat? Any democrat, anywhere.
If you think you have a good democrat in your state, look at their voting record. They are voting along with the other democrats on nearly all issues. Gun control, abortion, raising taxes, green new deal, and all the other wacky ideas and leftists communist ideologies. There is not a good one among them, because they stand with all the rest.

 

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Depends on where you get your news, I guess. If you visit the Epoch Times, you may have half the picture.

Why were people with guns protesting in Michigan, even invading the legislature building? There was a protest with guns close to where I live too, but they didn't break into the state legislature. Trump tweeted, "Revolution." He seemed to like the idea of armed protesters.

You might be protesting too if you were black and worried about how the police treat people.

So far as I know, one Bible was burned. I have heard of churches being told to obey certain restrictions; and they didn't. Then they spread coronavirus. They broke the law but few if any were prosecuted.

I don't really agree with the people in Michigan marching in with guns. BUT it was PERFECTLY LEAGAL to do so. Also they never beat anyone up, didn't burn up buildings, burn police cars, try to burn down courthouses. They also didn't match through neighborhoods, harassing the citizens either. They didn't loot buildings and destroy shop owners for trying to defend their property.

They didn't shoot morters at cops, thrown bottles, ricks and cans injuring hundreds. They didn't rampage for days on end. All of which is ILLEGAL.

Gravely injured Seattle police officer reveals disturbing reports of 'very violent, very destructive' rioters

So to try and make a comparison between legal action and illegal is just plain ridiculous.

And does it really matter how many Bibles were burned? It just shows where the beliefs of these leftist radicals lie. Ones that you seen to excuse or even support in some fashion?

Liberal governments have told churches they can't meet, but have supported protesting of thousands.

As They Turn To Burning Bibles, Portland Rioters Show Their True Colors

Is This a Scene From Nazi Germany? No, It's the Portland 'Peaceful Protesters' Burning Bibles

Meanwhile leftists are fine with all the protests z unless of course it come to their neighborhood.
Report: With Chicago police already stretched thin, Mayor Lightfoot stations over 100 cops outside home, bans protests on her block to protect herself
 

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I don't really agree with the people in Michigan marching in with guns. BUT it was PERFECTLY LEAGAL to do so. Also they never beat anyone up, didn't burn up buildings, burn police cars, try to burn down courthouses. They also didn't match through neighborhoods, harassing the citizens either. They didn't loot buildings and destroy shop owners for trying to defend their property.

They didn't shoot morters at cops, thrown bottles, ricks and cans injuring hundreds. They didn't rampage for days on end. All of which is ILLEGAL.

Gravely injured Seattle police officer reveals disturbing reports of 'very violent, very destructive' rioters

So to try and make a comparison between legal action and illegal is just plain ridiculous.
Most of the protesters were not breaking the law. Some of the people who did were Boogaloo people. Then there were criminal types who joined the protests to take advantage of the situation.
And does it really matter how many Bibles were burned? It just shows where the beliefs of these leftist radicals lie. Ones that you seen to excuse or even support in some fashion?
Truth matters. If you say Bibles, you make it sound as if all the protesters were involved. So let's try to be accurate.

Liberal governments have told churches they can't meet, but have supported protesting of thousands.
That's a temporary measure.
I notice that the sites you give are right wing ones. Those people have their own agenda; and part of that is to keep people scared so they keep visiting their sites. There is no real evidence that "Bibles" were burned, so why are they saying that? It's not true, but they frighten people.

I'm tired of the angry divisive rhetoric that is meant to scare people. I think most Americans are, and that's why I think Biden will win. Trump has projected anger, fear and division. Along comes Michelle Obama and says something positive, and I think that's what Americans want to hear.
 

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Seattle rioters... Most of the protesters were not breaking the law....this is the problem with these idiots! When you take part of the city hostage, that is a crime. When some of your group destroy and loot and attack and murders....the rest are accomplices. Again the constitution does not protect armed criminal rioters.
 
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Most of the protesters were not breaking the law. Some of the people who did were Boogaloo people. Then there were criminal types who joined the protests to take advantage of the situation.
Truth matters. If you say Bibles, you make it sound as if all the protesters were involved. So let's try to be accurate.

That's a temporary measure.
I notice that the sites you give are right wing ones. Those people have their own agenda; and part of that is to keep people scared so they keep visiting their sites. There is no real evidence that "Bibles" were burned, so why are they saying that? It's not true, but they frighten people.

I'm tired of the angry divisive rhetoric that is meant to scare people. I think most Americans are, and that's why I think Biden will win. Trump has projected anger, fear and division. Along comes Michelle Obama and says something positive, and I think that's what Americans want to hear.

Those criminal types are leftists.

Truth matters. And I didn't say all the protestors. There you go twisting words again. If truth matters then you should start being more accurate yourself. Protestors DID burn them. There were people there who said Bibles were burned.

Here you are straining at a gnat
 
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Those criminal types are leftists.

Truth matters. And I didn't say all the protestors. There you go twisting words again. If truth matters then you should start being more accurate yourself. Protestors DID burn them. There were people there who said Bibles were burned.

Here you are straining at a gnat
I have heard one reporter who said he saw one Bible burned. The FBI doesn't think all the criminal types are leftists. There are bad actors on both sides. Here are just two stories.

Three Nevada 'Boogaloo Bois' Arrested by FBI in Firebombing Plot

FBI Says Alleged Gunman Who Killed Cop at Oakland Protest Was Part of Far-Right 'Boogaloo' Movement

Here's what the US attorney from Justice Department said of the Nevada incident:

Joint Terrorism Task Force Charges Three Men Who Allegedly Sought To Exploit Protests In Las Vegas And Incite Violence

U.S. Attorney Nicholas A. Trutanich for the District of Nevada, Clark County District Attorney Steve Wolfson, Special Agent in Charge Aaron C. Rouse for the FBI, and Sheriff Joseph Lombardo of the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department announced today that three alleged members of the “Boogaloo” movement — a term used by extremists to signify a coming civil war and/or collapse of society — have been charged with violations of federal and state law for conspiracy to cause destruction during protests in Las Vegas, and possession of an unregistered destructive device (specifically, an improvised incendiary device commonly known as a Molotov cocktail).

“Violent instigators have hijacked peaceful protests and demonstrations across the country, including Nevada, exploiting the real and legitimate outrage over Mr. Floyd’s death for their own radical agendas,” said U.S. Attorney Trutanich. “Law enforcement is focused on keeping violence and destruction from interfering with free public expression and threatening lives.”