What is the 3rd temple?

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Bobby Jo

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A tabernacle (tent) cannot be a temple and vice versa. ...
I'm merely pointing out that the ARK OF THE COVENANT was FIRST PARKED in the Tabernacle. And the Temple was simply a Stone Edifice FOR THE ARK OF THE COVENANT. So where I see the Location of the ARK OF THE COVENANT, you see a Stone Edifice.

As such, I would observe that YOU are transfixed by the outward "appearance", but GOD is focused on the INWARD "heart" :)


And to prove the point, I provided a "temple" citation in Post #55, where your purported "TEMPLE" is FULFILLED by HISTORY as a Synagogue.

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There are no successors to the apostles. They have already said what was required of them by the Holy Spirit in their Epistles. End of revelation.

apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers

If you deny ONE, you deny ALL!
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... Won’t be disappointed if He returns today, ....
Ummmmmmm, I'd be a little disappointed, -- BECAUSE I'D BE DEAD. So when my wife says how precious life is, and that Jesus could come for me at any moment, -- I stop whatever I'm doing --, because I don't want "Jesus to come for me" at her hand. ;)

... and yet, who could blame her? ... :eek:
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The body of Christ is indeed His Temple, but the "third temple" is a physical place that the scriptures say will be rebuilt before the Second Coming. The problem with "temple" theology is that everyone and their brother want to define what the temple means, and then expect everyone else to abide by that definition. It never occurs to them that the temple can mean more than one, and boggles their finite and unopened minds.
 
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... the "third temple" is a physical place that the scriptures say will be rebuilt before the Second Coming. ...

If so, then why hasn't it? Did GOD provide HIS SON in place of burnt offerings only to re-introduce BURNT OFFERINGS? Is HE Double Minded/Indecisive/Confused/Disoriented? If so, then maybe he should run on the Democratic Ticket!

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If so, then why hasn't it? Did GOD provide HIS SON in place of burnt offerings only to re-introduce BURNT OFFERINGS? Is HE Double Minded/Indecisive/Confused/Disoriented? If so, then maybe he should run on the Democratic Ticket! Bobby Jo
Because the Old Covenant has never expired and never will expire. It is an eternal Covenant with Israel which God says will be with the seed of Abraham Jacob forever!
 

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Because the Old Covenant has never expired and never will expire. It is an eternal Covenant with Israel which God says will be with the seed of Abraham Jacob forever!

GREAT. So when I over-cook the steaks, I can declare it a BURNT OFFERING, and I guess I no longer need Jesus! :)

... Need MORE Democrats! ...
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If so, then why hasn't it? Did GOD provide HIS SON in place of burnt offerings only to re-introduce BURNT OFFERINGS? Is HE Double Minded/Indecisive/Confused/Disoriented?
1. The third temple is not built at the direction of God. It is built by unbelieving Jews and will be desecrated by the Antichrist. Then destroyed by God.

2. The fourth temple is definitely at the direction of God, and animal sacrifices will also be resumed. We may not fully understand the import of that, but this temple will be under the New Covenant. God's thoughts are higher than ours, and God's way are higher than ours.
 

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Are you of the seed of Israel??

If BURN OFFERINGS are now a REPLACEMENT FOR JESUS, then nothing's stopping me from converting to Judaism. Besides, now I can FREELY HATE MY BROTHER without being accused of being a MURDERER; or LUST AFTER A WOMAN without being called an ADULTERER; or any number of other "offenses" which are no longer "offenses" under the O.T., -- and GOD WILL ACCEPT ME WITH OPEN ARMS because I burned the STEAKS! :)

... How silly are we going to get? ...
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1. The third temple is not built at the direction of God. ....
... then it's not going to be built AT ALL ...

But the a/c WILL: ... pitch his palatial tents between the sea and the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, with none to help him. --Dan. 11:45

... and he don't need no stink'in TEMPLE 'cause he's bring'in his own stuff.
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won’t be disappointed if you are right. Won’t be disappointed if Christ returns and raptures his people out before tribulation or after ‘the great tribulation’. Won’t be disappointed if He returns today, tomorrow or is already here. I used to be so scared because I was taught growing up that Christ was going to rapture His church (body) out before the great tribulation. Taught this to my children too even at a very young age to put everything into the rapture of the church. although I had no relationship with God and as you say ‘repeating what someone told me’. When some of the things I’d been repeating started to unravel and fall apart it terrified me that I no longer knew what the future looked like. no longer scared though, not knowing what the future looks like so even if you are right about this temple being built 3, 4, or haven’t some said even a fifth ...or about the antichrist being many, the old man of sin crucified in us all, or a single man; whoever is right..can they all be right, guess we will see. Only share with you what the word says to me at the moment: Christ is the body and resurrected restored Temple where the Spirit of God dwells. Living stones come together built up in Him. Do not understand or see why then God would cast down living stones which He brought to Life and built up a Holy Temple in Christ where the fullness of the Godhead dwells ‘bodily’.

Still would not be disappointed if you are right. One thing I have learned is God usually does things not like I imagined them. Even prayer, His way is always better than I imagined. About the rest, probably also better than imagined.

I trust that when the time comes, if you are still here for the coming tribulation, that you will have been better off for at least hearing about Christ's and His Apostle's warnings against deception for the end by a 'spurious Messiah' in Jerusalem.

When you see it come to pass, then you likely won't have the doubts you may have now, unless you allow yourself to be deceived with getting wrapped up in the excitement others may have in that time with their thinking that spurious Messiah is our Lord Jesus.

One of the ways we can tell a doctrine of man about the end is their disregarding Christ's Olivet discourse about the end of this world (Matthew 24; Mark 13; Luke 21).
1. Futurists, Pre-tribulationalists wrongly teach that Christ's Olivet discourse was meant for Jews, what they call tribulation saints who go through the tribulation.
2. Preterists and Historicists try to move the time of Christ's Olivet discourse back in history to 70 A.D., just because Jesus mentioned how there wouldn't be one stone atop another there.

The reality is that our Lord Jesus was giving His Church 7 main Signs of the end of this world leading up to His 2nd coming. That's why the last Sign He gave in His Olivet discourse is about the event of His 2nd coming and gathering of His faithful Church. Those same 7 Signs are the 7 Seals of Revelation 6.
 

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The third temple is the one after the second temple
That is clearly logical. But when someone calls a tent a temple that is simply BIZARRE. That would be similar to calling a shack a mansion.

The naysayers in this thread (perhaps you included) insist on disregarding the clear prophecies regarding the future temple, and the Abomination of Desolation standing in the Holy Place, and the Antichrist controlling the whole scenario. But Scripture (2 Thess 2:3,4) is quite clear:

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that Man of Sin be revealed, the Son of Perdition;[THE ANTICHRIST] Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Christ already prophesied the destruction of the 2nd temple in 70 AD when He began His Olivet Discourse. But after that He referred to the prophecy of Daniel regarding the Abomination of Desolation (an idol) standing in the Holy Place. Therefore the Lord anticipated a third temple in Jerusalem in the future. Yet so may Christians will not simply believe Him.

Orthodox Jews in Israel have already laid out detailed plans for a third temple in Jerusalem, and already made preparations for animal sacrifices (including the red heifer). So it is only a matter of time and circumstance when this temple will be erected.

Some people even interpret "sitteth in the temple of God" as the Antichrist sitting within the Church! Now how absurd can you get?
 

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Yet so may Christians will not simply believe Him.
He surely was not speaking literally, pEnoch; you might note the associations with someone speaking factoids as if they know with proclaiming oneself to be Yah, fwiw. The third temple surely is not literal ok, sorry. The abomination of desolation is the failure to grasp what is it? and will be reflected in ones syntax, "this is that and that is this and you need to do that and you shouldnt do this" and etc?
 

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... when someone calls a tent a temple that is simply BIZARRE. ...

What's "BIZARRE" is that the Tent or the Temple is MERELY THE EDIFICE for the ARK OF THE COVENANT!

Matt. 23:16 “Woe to you, blind guides, who say, ‘If any one swears by the temple, it is nothing; but if any one swears by the gold of the temple, he is bound by his oath.’

18 And you say, ‘If any one swears by the altar, it is nothing; but if any one swears by the gift that is on the altar, he is bound by his oath.’

19 You blind men! For which is greater, the gift or the altar that makes the gift sacred?

... and so you "worship" the TEMPLE, but IGNORE THE ARK OF THE COVENANT which makes the Tent/Temple HOLY.


No shortage of BLIND MEN here ...
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The abomination of desolation is the failure to grasp what is it?
This is incorrect. So please note carefully: And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination* that maketh desolate. And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits. (Dan 11:31,32) [Note:"abomination" means an idol which stinks in the sight of God]

*תּוֹעֵבַה tôwʻêbah, to-ay-baw'; or תֹּעֵבַה tôʻêbah; feminine active participle of H8581; properly, something disgusting (morally), i.e. (as noun) an abhorrence; especially idolatry or (concretely) an idol:—abominable (custom, thing), abomination.

Now here is what Jesus said, and He meant for every reader to understand clearly what He was saying (Matthew 24:15,16,21): When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand) -- Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:... For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Since the Great Tribulation is a totally unique event connected to the Abomination of Desolation (in fact triggered by it), both things are literally in the future. And to confirm that the Great Tribulation has not occurred as yet, we still see all the heavenly bodies in their places. But here is what would have happened if the Great Tribulation had already passed: Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:(Mt 24:29)

This is all literal and fearsome. Yet it will be in the relatively near future. We are neither in the Tribulation (the reign of the Antichrist) nor in the Great Tribulation (which follows immediately). We are still in the Age of Grace, the Gospel Age (also called the Church Age).

Daniel's future 70th Week consists of seven years. The first 3 1/2 years are assigned to the reign of the Antichrist (Revelation 11) and the Tribulation. The next 3 1/2 years are assigned to the Great Tribulation (the Seven Vial Judgments of the 7th Trumpet within the 7th Seal).
 

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To All,

As per previously posted, today it's not about a physical "temple", -- it's about men and women in whom the Holy Spirit resides. And so the "temple" can be ANY STRUCTURE where GOD's Children gather to worship and fellowship.

Thus:
19 You blind men! For which is greater, the gift or the altar that makes the gift sacred?

... where WE'RE the "ALTAR" where the Holy Spirit resides today, and not some building or a box.

Bobby Jo