Books Omitted From The Bible

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CoooCaw

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what do you guys think of the many religious books that were written (many mentioned in the bible), that were not included in the biblical canon?
were they devinely inspired? who gave king james the authority to decide which books were?


When King James wrote the Bible he knew what he was doing :)
 

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what do you guys think of the many religious books that were written (many mentioned in the bible), that were not included in the biblical canon?
were they devinely inspired? who gave king james the authority to decide which books were?

King James didn't decide anything. He ordered the scholars of his kingdom to do the translation at the threat of death and never paid them. This caused many of the translators to translate the brutal truth. But others feared the king and the catholic church which caused them to translate their portions tainted. Most of the books that you are talking about were destroyed by the catholic church and were not available for translation such as the book of Enoch and the book of Nathan the Prophet and Gad the seer.

There are many book of Scripture that were destroyed by the holy roman empire who twisted the gospel and mixed it with Greek mythology. This all happened after the first church was murdered and fed to the lions. All of the apostles were martyred by 75AD along with most of the powerful Spirit filled Christians. None of the first church ever saw the book of revelations except John who wrote it.

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King James didn't decide anything. He ordered the scholars of his kingdom to do the translation at the threat of death and never paid them. This caused many of the translators to translate the brutal truth. But others feared the king and the catholic church which caused them to translate their portions tainted. Most of the books that you are talking about were destroyed by the catholic church and were not available for translation such as the book of Enoch and the book of Nathan the Prophet and Gad the seer.

They feared the Catholic Church?

The country was Protestant. Catholics had been brutally persecuted, tortured and murdered by Protestants under Elizabeth I and still were being under King James. It was a crime to be a Catholic Priest or to harbour one.

There are many book of Scripture that were destroyed by the holy roman empire who twisted the gospel and mixed it with Greek mythology. This all happened after the first church was murdered and fed to the lions. All of the apostles were martyred by 75AD along with most of the powerful Spirit filled Christians. None of the first church ever saw the book of revelations except John who wrote it.

Rubbish

Try learning some history.
 

us2are1

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They feared the Catholic Church?

The country was Protestant. Catholics had been brutally persecuted, tortured and murdered by Protestants under Elizabeth I and still were being under King James. It was a crime to be a Catholic Priest or to harbour one.



Rubbish

Try learning some history.

You have the history that the devil wants you to have. The sad part is you believe it. Try asking God. He is very much alive and available.

It was a crime to be anything outside of their catholic mockery. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's still a duck. The puritans petitioned for the bible translation from King James. The Puritans thought that the Church of England had kept too many Catholic practices. They wanted church government put in the hands of the people, rather than a hierarchy of bishops and archbishops. They were still the "Catholic Church of England".

The delusion of the gospel from the Greeks was evident as far back as 160 AD when the scribe Luke who wrote a version of the gospel to the patriarch of Antioch Theophilus added material that is contradicted by the other gospels.

This is also where the gospel got mixed with Greek mythology. Even today most people who call themselves christian believe the Greek mythology version of the gospel which includes going to Zuse's heaven and being tormented in Hades by Pluto.
 

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You have the history that the devil wants you to have. The sad part is you believe it. Try asking God. He is very much alive and available.

It was a crime to be anything outside of their catholic mockery. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's still a duck. The puritans petitioned for the bible translation from King James. The Puritans thought that the Church of England had kept too many Catholic practices. They wanted church government put in the hands of the people, rather than a hierarchy of bishops and archbishops. They were still the "Catholic Church of England".

The delusion of the gospel from the Greeks was evident as far back as 160 AD when the scribe Luke who wrote a version of the gospel to the patriarch of Antioch Theophilus added material that is contradicted by the other gospels.

This is also where the gospel got mixed with Greek mythology. Even today most people who call themselves christian believe the Greek mythology version of the gospel which includes going to Zuse's heaven and being tormented in Hades by Pluto.

You're are very confused about Greek mythology and the Catholic Church. Paul's address to the Greeks about the "unknown god" in Acts 17:18-34 which you can find here. I'm sure it will help you put the whole notion of other "gods"[ your Greek god Zeus for example ] in context, It's a very beautiful passage.
 

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You're are very confused about Greek mythology and the Catholic Church. Paul's address to the Greeks about the "unknown god" in Acts 17:18-34 which you can find here. I'm sure it will help you put the whole notion of other "gods"[ your Greek god Zeus for example ] in context, It's a very beautiful passage.

You are confused because you didn't pay attention to what I said. The book of Luke and the book of acts were written by the Greek scribe Luke, who copied other documents and added his own stuff to them, for the Patriarch of Antioch Theophilus. This is why the acts drifts from first to second to third person writing styles.

Luke and Theophilus were alive in 160 AD.
 

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what do you guys think of the many religious books that were written (many mentioned in the bible), that were not included in the biblical canon?
were they devinely inspired? who gave king james the authority to decide which books were?

They would have to be included at some point, to be omitted.

The Quran is a "holy work" should that be included?
 

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There were few Bible translations prior to the KJV. You can compare.

Luther's Protestant Bible came out 1520 and before his Bible the Catholic Bible had been translated into Spanish, Italian, Danish, French, Norwegian, Polish, Bohemian, Hungarian and English, there was exactly 104 editions in Latin; 38 editions in German language, 25 editions in Italian language, 18 in French. In all 626 editions of the Bible with 198 in the language of the laity, had been edited before the first Protestant Bible was sent forth into the world.

Matt. 2:16 - Herod's decree of slaying innocent children was prophesied in Wis. 11:7 - slaying the holy innocents.

Matt. 6:19-20 - Jesus' statement about laying up for yourselves treasure in heaven follows Sirach 29:11 - lay up your treasure.

Matt. 9:36 - the people were "like sheep without a shepherd" is same as Judith 11:19 - sheep without a shepherd.

Luke 1:42 - Elizabeth's declaration of Mary's blessedness above all women follows Uzziah's declaration in Judith 13:18.

Luke 1:52 - Mary's magnificat addressing the mighty falling from their thrones and replaced by lowly follows Sirach 10:14.

Luke 2:29 - Simeon's declaration that he is ready to die after seeing the Child Jesus follows Tobit 11:9.

Luke 13:29 - the Lord's description of men coming from east and west to rejoice in God follows Baruch 4:37.

Luke 21:24 - Jesus' usage of "fall by the edge of the sword" follows Sirach 28:18.

John 4:48; Acts 5:12; 15:12; 2 Cor. 12:12 - Jesus', Luke's and Paul's usage of "signs and wonders" follows Wisdom 8:8.

These are just samples. Revelation has 13 references to the Dueterocanon, and other books have many as well.

For a list of over 70 New Testament references to the books that Martin Luther rejected, go here

Protestants have been ripped off. But that is changing.
 

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I hate copy-pasters for the most part. ("Um, you shouldn't hate!) They act as if you cannot read a website, but reading their post is somehow different. Anyway, many Catholics might feel intimidated to speak on theological matters since teaching is reserved for the recognized teachers in their denomination.
Teaching is reserved for the recognized teachers of Catholicism, that's true because it is biblical, and it is biblical because it is true. . All the teachings are available on web sites. Perhaps what you mean to say is that the Church is a teaching Church, not a learning church, which is true. Teaching always flows from the top down, beginning with God > Christ > Apostles > successors. Deeper theological realities are there for anyone who wants them. Not all Catholics have doctorates on theology and/or philosophy and no one stops anyone from obtaining them. But the Bible does not say any individual can teach whatever they want, as in Protestantism. It's in a state of theological chaos. The Bible says that teaching is reserved for the ordained, or those commissioned by the ordained. or those called directly by God followed by signs and wonders.

By What Authority?
A Challenge to Protestant Pastors
 

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The just shall live by faith,first,faith in the existence of God and his power and second his ability to preserve his word and that the word he has preserved is sufficient for salvation....all kinds of questions can be ask and not every second of the life of Jesus was documented,there are many things we don't know but we have been told to have faith in what we have been told and that it is enough.

Should have said every second of Jesus's life was not documented...early morning posting.
 

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You are confused because you didn't pay attention to what I said. The book of Luke and the book of acts were written by the Greek scribe Luke, who copied other documents and added his own stuff to them, for the Patriarch of Antioch Theophilus. This is why the acts drifts from first to second to third person writing styles.

Luke and Theophilus were alive in 160 AD.

Yes!!! it is true.
 

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Yes!!! it is true.

"I too have decided, after investigating everything accurately anew, to write it down in an orderly sequence for you, most excellent Theophilus, so that you may realize the certainty of the teachings you have received."

The Patriarch of Alexandria needed Luke to demonstrate to him that the teachings he had received were correct.

Right! :rolleyes: