can not get this off my mind or my heart. The truth about sunday gatherings....

forever-living-spirit said:

Do you understand what I am saying?

sunday church gatherings is going to lead you astray. all the hipicrits and false prophets and bad people go to a church.

Avoid it and don't participate. Church is a business and about money.
My love for Jesus is free costs nothing!!!

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I understand what you are saying, but you don't want to reject church completely just because many who go there may be superficial. You may find that the Lord leads you to a church some day, and there is someone there who will be of great benefit to you. So you need to always keep your options open.

God bless,
HiH

forever-living-spirit said:

I stay pre occupied by what is in my mind and my emotional status is lingering high.
But it's the thought of Jesus that really stands with me in my mind.

tears draining from my eyes every day. for How much Jesus means to me.
I sit there with this sitting on my heart and I am waiting every day to get this message across to everyone how much Jesus means to me . Because Jesus would want me to tell everyone how much he means to me to open up hearts to those who may come to Jesus too.
These emotional thoughts linger and I cry every day for my love for Jesus.
I see you may feel the same. something has happened in my mind spiritually .

my emotional status is too much I have to take this off my heart and unload it to everyone.
Then I can be in peace for eternity and live forever with Jesus in my arms.
Nothing else matters to me forever but Holding Jesus in my arms.
I see all the evil in this world corrupt governments and innocent people getting persecuted for silly reasons and I see the love of Jesus Christ in our hearts.

This is my message and live for Jesus every day in your hearts. you do not have to die for Jesus. But for me it's different I only have a certain amount of time in this life to be with you all.

so I am making this a spiritual message for all christians and non christians alike.

Jesus gave up everything for you so that he may regain your love. What of your hearts would you return back to him?
Jesus calls my spirit and heart to him and he wants me to do this with all the love of my heart.
A hard message to all those who are lukewarm are your hearts really with Jesus or do you just go to church every sunday to sing or dance and not even call his name just for the heck of it.

Because I believe I don't need to go to church every sunday to hand over my heart for god.
you only go to church once or twice every couple of weeks and spend no time with him.
unless you fully send your love to Jesus and submit every second of your life with Jesus I must say you are true christian.

I cry for Jesus every day.

I died to take Jesus with me to the next world forever.
that's what my heart says for him.

sunday is the world system do not be of the world.
every second of your heart with Jesus counts sending back your love for him.

if you truely feel the love of Christ deeply in your heart then cry every day for him.
if your lukewarm and go to church only on a sunday once a week and you follow false prophets and false doctrines.

I have no pastor okay. I go to Jesus alone no one can lead me to Jesus. it's Just me and Jesus alone.

Do you understand what I am saying?

sunday church gatherings is going to lead you astray. all the hipicrits and false prophets and bad people go to a church.

Avoid it and don't participate. Church is a business and about money.
My love for Jesus is free costs nothing!!!

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Hi. I am a 61-year old man who God took out of the church 15 years ago. For much of it, it's been a lonely, painful journey. But I remember way back when our loving Father showed me His unconditional love for me. Even though He knew everything about me. All I was and all I wasn't. This has sustained me when the memory was all I had. I learned to lean on Him because I didn't have anyone or anything else. Which is what I needed.
20 years ago last March He started me on the road to sanctification. After He spoke to me that He loved me with an everlasting love, that He would never leave me nor forsake me, that I'd been faithful with little and that He was going to give me more, it was like a bomb went off in my life. It was the perfect storm. He had given me the opportunity to fall on the Rock, but I was stubborn. Then the Rock fell on me and ground me to dust. Then I went to the 5-day retreat that He wanted me to go to the prior Fall.
It was incredibly difficult. I hardly slept. I was recovering from a recent suicide attempt that left me with an acquired brain injury.
I didn't understand that during the 80s, I'd made a covenant with death. This together with a drug my doctor insisted I took that gave me drug amnesia, and I'd stuck a needle in my arm for the first time in over 6 year years.
When the dust settled, my wife took our kids and moved north of Thunder Bay. I'd left my Vineyard church that I helped start. In a drug-induced haze, I recall the loudest thought I'd ever had. It said, "She's gone and she's not coming back." I later realized that it was the spirit of death that I'd ignorantly made a covenant with 18 years before.
God gave me a music ministry and a wife and kids. And I'd thrown it all away. I didn't want to do this anymore. My emotions were flat when I took a massive overdose of morphine. He wouldn't let me die. Again, and again, and again. I had a death wish ever since I got some bad teaching during the 70s that said a Christian won't ever sin. During my late teens, I was reading my bible though I only knew John 3:16. I tried to not sin, but I knew that wasn't possible for me. I thought God rejected me because I thought I couldn't measure up. I tried to stop believing in Jesus but I couldn't. The truth was already in my heart. So I went back to what I was doing when I met Jesus. Sex, drugs, and rock'n'roll. I had a death wish.
How could I do this after the God of love showed me His love for me? I needed a Savior to save me from myself. It was during 2018 that I finally overcame depression. I'd wrestled with it all year. I didn't realize that it would end. But it did and I haven't had to face it again.
I hope that I'm not going on too long. I tend to do this. I spent many years where I didn't have anyone to talk to.
Anyway, I went to the retreat and God met me powerfully. I saw Jesus!!! You're not the only one who cries every day. When I feel the Lord, I laugh and cry at the same time. Broken and in tears before the Lord is a good place to be.
I've known the whole time that the Lord is using this difficult time to do His work in me. Which I have always agreed to. How can I ever say no to Him? He is, quite simply, my everything.
I have Lupus, Hep. C for 46 years, a brain injury, 2 serious back injuries, sciatica for 9 years with pain, numbness in my feet, C.O.P.D., A.D.D., chronic migraines, etc.
I spent a while trying out different online groups but it wasn't until I got here that I found were I belonged. At first it was a bit of a challenge. There were a few times I thought about leaving but each time He told me to stay. So I did. My love for the body was restored in an instant. Things the Lord taught me about Him and His word are, I hope, benefitting others.
I've recently learned that Messianic Christians obey the Sabbath (Friday sundown to Saturday sundown) as an act of worship. The Sabbath was put into place by God, as the day He rested from 6 days of creation. Before any law was given.
I don't know how many, but there are those here that this is their church and I'm one of them. I hope something I've said has been helpful. Any time you want to talk, I'm here. I'm no one to look down on anyone. Shalom.

forever-living-spirit said:

...sunday is the world system do not be of the world...

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Sorry, but that is not based upon Scripture. Perhaps you have been influenced by the SDA church which claims that Sunday worship = the Mark of the Beast (which is pure nonsense).

forever-living-spirit said:

I will never leave Jesus or his people. it's not the building that is the church it's the people that is the church family.
The people are my brothers and sisters in Christ. and I love them the way Jesus would love everyone who accepts and loves him.
we as people can get together as a family in Christ and speak about the gospel. I completely agree. But the building is a thing I don't go to it's the people that I come to. agree.

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Good word! And glad to hear it. Keep trying to stay positive at all times and in all things. I know it is not always easy, but the Lord will help you to if you stay in prayer to Him.

God bless,
- H

forever-living-spirit said:

I stay pre occupied by what is in my mind and my emotional status is lingering high.
But it's the thought of Jesus that really stands with me in my mind.

tears draining from my eyes every day. for How much Jesus means to me.
I sit there with this sitting on my heart and I am waiting every day to get this message across to everyone how much Jesus means to me . Because Jesus would want me to tell everyone how much he means to me to open up hearts to those who may come to Jesus too.
These emotional thoughts linger and I cry every day for my love for Jesus.
I see you may feel the same. something has happened in my mind spiritually .

my emotional status is too much I have to take this off my heart and unload it to everyone.
Then I can be in peace for eternity and live forever with Jesus in my arms.
Nothing else matters to me forever but Holding Jesus in my arms.
I see all the evil in this world corrupt governments and innocent people getting persecuted for silly reasons and I see the love of Jesus Christ in our hearts.

This is my message and live for Jesus every day in your hearts. you do not have to die for Jesus. But for me it's different I only have a certain amount of time in this life to be with you all.

so I am making this a spiritual message for all christians and non christians alike.

Jesus gave up everything for you so that he may regain your love. What of your hearts would you return back to him?
Jesus calls my spirit and heart to him and he wants me to do this with all the love of my heart.
A hard message to all those who are lukewarm are your hearts really with Jesus or do you just go to church every sunday to sing or dance and not even call his name just for the heck of it.

Because I believe I don't need to go to church every sunday to hand over my heart for god.
you only go to church once or twice every couple of weeks and spend no time with him.
unless you fully send your love to Jesus and submit every second of your life with Jesus I must say you are true christian.

I cry for Jesus every day.

I died to take Jesus with me to the next world forever.
that's what my heart says for him.

sunday is the world system do not be of the world.
every second of your heart with Jesus counts sending back your love for him.

if you truely feel the love of Christ deeply in your heart then cry every day for him.
if your lukewarm and go to church only on a sunday once a week and you follow false prophets and false doctrines.

I have no pastor okay. I go to Jesus alone no one can lead me to Jesus. it's Just me and Jesus alone.

Do you understand what I am saying?

sunday church gatherings is going to lead you astray. all the hipicrits and false prophets and bad people go to a church.

Avoid it and don't participate. Church is a business and about money.
My love for Jesus is free costs nothing!!!

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I know what you mean. I understand. We call Sunday "the Lord's day" but in reality, for his followers, everyday is the Lord's day. Sunday isn't really for the Lord; Sunday is for us. And it doesn't need to be Sunday. It can be Saturday; or Wednesday or whatever day is suitable. The Lord wants us to meet together on a regular basis for encouragement, testimony, moral training, and Bible study. Hallelujah, Praise the Lord.

forever-living-spirit said:

I have no pastor okay. I go to Jesus alone no one can lead me to Jesus. it's Just me and Jesus alone.

Do you understand what I am saying?

sunday church gatherings is going to lead you astray. all the hipicrits and false prophets and bad people go to a church.

Avoid it and don't participate. Church is a business and about money.
My love for Jesus is free costs nothing!!!

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Free love is great, but it's better shared.

Much love!

Western society has adopted...but less and less these days...a Christianity in a religious form. IOW something that brings a certain cohesion to society. A religion for the society at large. It's a way to work in a higher power into the national interest. And this re-enforces the call to obey authorities, pay taxes and such...

But the modern church does not resemble the early church in any way.

They met daily.

Acts 2:46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

Now the modern spin would change the above formula from daily to weekly (weakly) to support the idea that God is NOT our primary focus in life. The Lord becomes an add-on to our very self-interested lives. A life that is fully outside the kingdom realm of the Spirit.

We are not to be OF this world. Our lack of connection to each other will show that we are indeed of this world. We just have a religious bent that we satisfy as we would a hobby.

So then seek the brethren who live a life IN Him...that live a shared life...led by the Spirit.

forever-living-spirit said:

I stay pre occupied by what is in my mind and my emotional status is lingering high.
But it's the thought of Jesus that really stands with me in my mind.

tears draining from my eyes every day. for How much Jesus means to me.
I sit there with this sitting on my heart and I am waiting every day to get this message across to everyone how much Jesus means to me . Because Jesus would want me to tell everyone how much he means to me to open up hearts to those who may come to Jesus too.
These emotional thoughts linger and I cry every day for my love for Jesus.
I see you may feel the same. something has happened in my mind spiritually .

my emotional status is too much I have to take this off my heart and unload it to everyone.
Then I can be in peace for eternity and live forever with Jesus in my arms.
Nothing else matters to me forever but Holding Jesus in my arms.
I see all the evil in this world corrupt governments and innocent people getting persecuted for silly reasons and I see the love of Jesus Christ in our hearts.

This is my message and live for Jesus every day in your hearts. you do not have to die for Jesus. But for me it's different I only have a certain amount of time in this life to be with you all.

so I am making this a spiritual message for all christians and non christians alike.

Jesus gave up everything for you so that he may regain your love. What of your hearts would you return back to him?
Jesus calls my spirit and heart to him and he wants me to do this with all the love of my heart.
A hard message to all those who are lukewarm are your hearts really with Jesus or do you just go to church every sunday to sing or dance and not even call his name just for the heck of it.

Because I believe I don't need to go to church every sunday to hand over my heart for god.
you only go to church once or twice every couple of weeks and spend no time with him.
unless you fully send your love to Jesus and submit every second of your life with Jesus I must say you are true christian.

I cry for Jesus every day.

I died to take Jesus with me to the next world forever.
that's what my heart says for him.

sunday is the world system do not be of the world.
every second of your heart with Jesus counts sending back your love for him.

if you truely feel the love of Christ deeply in your heart then cry every day for him.
if your lukewarm and go to church only on a sunday once a week and you follow false prophets and false doctrines.

I have no pastor okay. I go to Jesus alone no one can lead me to Jesus. it's Just me and Jesus alone.

Do you understand what I am saying?

sunday church gatherings is going to lead you astray. all the hipicrits and false prophets and bad people go to a church.

Avoid it and don't participate. Church is a business and about money.
My love for Jesus is free costs nothing!!!

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Thank you for sharing!

If you deal with facts and not opinion or denominational dictates and are prepared to search the scriptures and read the history of the New Testament church as I have done, you will find that it did not become a Christian Church. It was a sect of Judaism known as The Way and the people involved were mainly Jews, who kept being Jews whilst they followed the teaching of the Messiah.

Apart from anything else, this is evident from the fact that the Judaizers said that the Gentiles had to be circumcised to be Jewish believers because they still identified as Jews.

This meant that the NTC full of Jews met collegially on the Jewish sabbath as meeting on Sünday was unheard of and would be unheard of until the Church was influenced by gentile thinking some hundreds of years later.

forever-living-spirit said:

The lord has my heart every second of the day I live.
He gave me his life. I think we all as true followers to the lord Jesus Christ shall gather with him outside in nature and speak the gospel and know his truth.
Not be confined in a building . The pastor leads the building .... and if the pastor is not always right you can't speak up and say a thing because you can't interupt a sermon. Jesus was with us all anyone can walk in and say something to Jesus. even when Jesus spoke everyone could have a say. with pastors it just leads to arguments. I know what many pastors are like and they don't lead me to Jesus. Jesus leads me to him and him alone with me.

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There are churches that teach the Bible rather than give sermons. And after the teaching the pastor answers questions. Perhaps the Lord will lead you to such a place.

forever-living-spirit said:

This pastor I came across remains arrogant ...many pastors can be arrogant. and they lead there church!
you are attending there church!!!! and you have to listen to there rules! and you can't speak up.
because they think they know everything! This is why I don't go to church and Sunday is not for me. False prophets warning ....

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Ask the Lord to lead you to a pastor who teaches the Bible in humility, one who is wise and yet not overbearing. You may need to find a small group of dedicated believers such as yourself, who meet weekly in a house. The important thing is to pray daily, read the word of God, and love the brethren.

forever-living-spirit said:

if you truely feel the love of Christ deeply in your heart then cry every day for him.

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what do you mean??

forever-living-spirit said:

I cry for Jesus every day.

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uhh
what exactly...
are you for real?
the actual crying?
not the spiritual bleeding and crying?

if i cry i don't think i am doing it for him and what does crying have to do with the word of God

or maybe you are telling us something different

could you make it more clear please