King James Version Only...?

Eternally Grateful said:

any English bible is flawed due to the fact the English language is flawed. People who trust a 1600 bible as would authority miss out on so Much in the word because they rely on a faulty language

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Buffalo bagels. Millions of fine godly folk have gone down to their graves knowing nothing but King James.

YeshuaFan1 said:

Kjvo is bogus, as there are few reputable textual critics that would subscribe to it!
Even the patron saint of the Kjvo, dean Burgeon, would not hold to it!

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One of my favorite quotes from the King James is in the translators notes to the reader:

"Now to the latter we answer, that we do not deny, nay, we affirm and avow, that the very meanest translation of the Bible in English, set forth by men of our profession, (for we have seen none of theirs of the whole Bible as yet) containeth the Word of God, nay, is the Word of God."

Bible (King James)/Preface - Wikisource, the free online library

It would seem to me that the translators didn't hold a King James Only position.

Much love!

I find the discussion of manuscripts to be more meaningful than of translations.

For myself, the question isn't answered in textual criticism, it's answered in Scripture.

Psalm 119
89 For ever, O Lord, thy word is settled in heaven.
90 Thy faithfulness is unto all generations: thou hast established the earth, and it abideth.

God's Word is a settled matter, and God is faithful to all generations.

Therefore, I don't believe that we went 1000 years and longer waiting for the true word of God to be discovered, IE, the Critical Text.

I think the Majority Manuscript best contains the correct Scriptures.

Much love!

marks said:

It would seem to me that the translators didn't hold a King James Only position.

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That was then. They were not facing an array of rationalistic scholars claiming that the worst manuscripts were the best and the best the worst. They were not facing critical texts and translations based upon corrupt manuscripts. So what they wrote then does not apply now.

Furthermore they made it very clear that out of many good translations, they would make one which was exceptional. And it proved to be true. No scholars or commentators even questioned the integrity of this translation for over 300 years.

BarnyFife said:

Why? Because you say so?

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Because it answers all the naysayers thoroughly.

Enoch111 said:

That was then. They were not facing an array of rationalistic scholars claiming that the worst manuscripts were the best and the best the worst. They were not facing critical texts and translations based upon corrupt manuscripts. So what they wrote then does not apply now.

Furthermore they made it very clear that out of many good translations, they would make one which was exceptional. And it proved to be true. No scholars or commentators even questioned the integrity of this translation for over 300 years.

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They were making another revision of prior english translations, and their version was not inspired to be "only: translation God approves of!

YeshuaFan1 said:

They were making another revision of prior english translations, and their version was not inspired to be "only: translation God approves of!

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Who says the KJV was "inspired"? That is as much nonsense as your nonsense that the KJV is "corrupt".

As to God's hand on the Authorized Version, only a committed naysayer will claim that this Bible was NOT blessed mightily by God, and that countless millions of souls were saved through the preaching of the Gospel therein. Also millions of saints were edified by the same Bible over 400 years!

All the opposition and attacks on the KJV began around 1881 and have continued since then. Why? Because Satan hates this Bible, which is the Sword of the Spirit, the Word of God.

CharismaticLady said:

KJV: Romans 8:1
1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.

NASB: Romans 8:1
1 Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.

Now would you rather believe that there is no condemnation in those who are in Christ Jesus. Just believe in Him and you can do what you want without condemnation as false teachers will tell you what you want to hear.

OR

Would you seek the baptism of the Holy Spirit that Christ gives those who want to serve Him so you can do the prerequisite of no condemnation by walking in the Spirit?

Are you really going to chance your eternal soul on a myth?

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1. The last part of that verse has no bearing on who is in Christ and who is condemned.

pit is either

A. an accidental copy of verse 4

B. A characteristic of those who are in Christ.

neither state that one can be in Christ and sin all they want,

if this is your only guide. It is a weak argument,

YeshuaFan1 said:

Best of its time, but there have been advances in textual criticism and source texts!

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And I still would not trust any of them as my only source apart from getting into the origionals

101G said:

first thanks, but no thanks. for now I'll keep the KJV, and it's teacher to me the Holy Spirit. so again thanks.

PICJAG.

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Feel free

I am sorry you will miss out on some of Gods word

I remember when I first was taught the Greek in John, and how Jesus did not use the same Greek word in his discussion with peter, how it helped me in a deep spiritual way, to know God wants us to continue to feed his sheep even though we can not say we agape love him, we can only claim we phileo him

huge meaning you will never get with your flawed bible

and it’s not the only place

Enoch111 said:

Who says the KJV was "inspired"? That is as much nonsense as your nonsense that the KJV is "corrupt".

As to God's hand on the Authorized Version, only a committed naysayer will claim that this Bible was NOT blessed mightily by God, and that countless millions of souls were saved through the preaching of the Gospel therein. Also millions of saints were edified by the same Bible over 400 years!

All the opposition and attacks on the KJV began around 1881 and have continued since then. Why? Because Satan hates this Bible, which is the Sword of the Spirit, the Word of God.

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FYI, most avid KJV only cults claim the KJV is inspired,

BarnyFife said:

Buffalo bagels. Millions of fine godly folk have gone down to their graves knowing nothing but King James.

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Millions have gone to their grave knowing nothing but the NASB, are they any less saved?

I never said they could not help anyone. I sai we miss some parts if we only use them as a guide

please try to read what I am saying,

buffalo bagels to you for misapplying my words

Eternally Grateful said:

FYI, most avid KJV only cults claim the KJV is inspired,

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The cultists are a LUNATIC FRINGE. Just ignore them.

Enoch111 said:

Who says the KJV was "inspired"? That is as much nonsense as your nonsense that the KJV is "corrupt".

As to God's hand on the Authorized Version, only a committed naysayer will claim that this Bible was NOT blessed mightily by God, and that countless millions of souls were saved through the preaching of the Gospel therein. Also millions of saints were edified by the same Bible over 400 years!

All the opposition and attacks on the KJV began around 1881 and have continued since then. Why? Because Satan hates this Bible, which is the Sword of the Spirit, the Word of God.

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So are the Nas/Esv and Niv!

Eternally Grateful said:

And I still would not trust any of them as my only source apart from getting into the origionals

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Which we no longer have to get into!

Eternally Grateful said:

Millions have gone to their grave knowing nothing but the NASB, are they any less saved?

I never said they could not help anyone. I sai we miss some parts if we only use them as a guide

please try to read what I am saying,

buffalo bagels to you for misapplying my words

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Some KJVI do hold that non ehave ever been saved apart from the Kjv!

Enoch111 said:

The cultists are a LUNATIC FRINGE. Just ignore them.

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Like the Ruckermites and Riplings?

LC627 said:

Out of all the theological ideas and topics that I've come across over the years, the issue of KJV only is one that I have not encountered until recently. I do appreciate the KJV and have a few Bibles in that translation, but to say that it is the only true word of God in English seems to be a far stretch. Also, this opens up a can of worms.

a) Do missionaries that travel to foreign countries where English is not the language require the people to learn old school English in order to have God's true Word?

b) Is English the only language that the Bible must be in?

c) What about all the Bible translations before the 1611 KJV?

Those are just a few questions I have regarding this topic. I'd like to ask the members here, what are you thoughts on the subject?

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You're absolutely correct LC627, their position and defense is as absurd as it sounds. There is not a rational argument under the sun, to defend such an outrageous claim as that one particular English translation, written several centuries ago when textual criticism was in its infancy, and the scarcity of source texts that were available, takes precedence over all other translations that came, in any language, before and after it. Even the 40 scholarly authors themselves would never make such an audacious claim.

And take note of the KJVO's specious defense, their predominant claim is that verses were taken away. But this only has any merit if we assume that the KJV is the standard to compare all other translations with. Yes, it's circular reasoning.
Anyhow, if you get a chance, or can even be bothered to entertain such a ridiculous notion, briefly examine the arguments against such exclusivity, and very shortly all your suspicions will be justified.
Again, it's as absurd as it sounds.

I have about 40 English Bible translations on my computer that I have purchased over the years. It's quite interesting comparing them. I truly believe the Bible is God's written word.