The Ten Commandments—What happened?
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CharismaticLady
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I once heard a sermon that the 10 commandments can be summed up into Jesus's great commandment in the NT.
To Love thy Lord and Love thy neighbour as thyself.
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CharismaticLady
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Why not if you keep the Sabbath? Is it because the Sabbath was put in the middle of the Ten Commandments, making it a commandment? Why was this holy convocation from the list in Leviticus 23 put in the Commandments and not the other feasts. Why not all of them.
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CharismaticLady
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Unfortunately many "Christians" only use Him as a "get out of jail free card." They don't believe if they love Him they will follow Him and KEEP His commandments. Matthew 7:21-23
John 15:
10 If you keep My commandments (1 John 3:23), you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments (Exodus 20) and abide in His love.
Because the rest of them were only meant to be useful until their Antitype came. The Sabbath commandment repeated in Leviticus 23 does not reduce it to a merely ceremonial type of Christ. Putting a temporary, liturgical element in the midst of an eternal moral code is a dirty trick that a just God would not pull on His children.
C D Brooks ? Why would His opinion matter? Salvation is a Gift. Anything that is “ worked for” is not a gift....these are facts — NOT an Opinion.....
True! Thank God that we do not have to do those things to be Saved because nobody ever does it....
Because his "opinion" affirms the apostle's statement in Romans 2:13.
No kidding
I've already vehemently affirmed that salvation cannot be "worked for."
More preaching to the choir.
Except the last 5 words which could indicate "all-or-nothing" thinking which, if indulged extensively, can adversely affect mental health. Just sayin'.
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CharismaticLady
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Yes, and even in the New Covenant commandments of the Spirit, 1 John 3:23 refers to that command as from the Father.
I love and respect your keeping the Sabbath from the Ten Commandments. As I said earlier, there are some who do not believe we are under ANY law, without even acknowledging the eternal laws being written on our hearts in the New Covenant of the Spirit. They I do not respect, and believe them to adhere to a doctrine of demons. It is better to keep both covenant laws (Ten Commandments, and belief in Jesus, and love your neighbor as yourself, than none at all, don't you think?
As Romans 14 says, we need to be convinced in our own mind, and NEVER go against our conscience that the Holy Spirit works through.
My belief is that keeping the laws of Jesus, 1 John 3:23, goes deeper than the Ten Commandment to the core of sin, and that the Sabbath, put in the middle of the Law, was as its sign, and was fulfilled and DOES point to our rest in Jesus, as He said, in Matthew 11:27-29, and that all holy convocations of Leviticus 23 point to Jesus until He fulfilled His mission. So it was only in effect until the Resurrection, and the beginning of the New Covenant. The sign of the New Covenant is the Cup, 1 Corinthians 11:25.
27 All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him. 28 Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
That is what I am convinced of, so we both are pleasing in His sight. 1 John 3:21-22.
I'm pretty sure you typed Matthew 11:28 - 30; but the Bible at these forums mits verse 30 so in typing Matthew 11:28 - 30, it automatically switched 30 to 29.
Here is the whole passage:
Mat 11:28, Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Mat 11:29, Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
Mat 11:30, For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
It would seem that Jesus violated the letter of the sabbath laws in John 5:1-18 unless there was a change in the sabbath law. I would contend that the change in law that was instituted by Jesus had to do with making us no longer bound to the letter but obedient to the spirit of what is written.
In Exodus 20:10, it is clear that we are not to do any work on a sabbath day; but Jesus said, My Father worketh hiterto, and I work (John 5:17); and John under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit wrote that in this Jesus "brake the sabbath" (John 5:18)
Now, I know that I have not done so consistently; but I will say that he has shed abroad His love in my heart...and is His love anything less than with all the heart, soul, mind, and strength?
See Romans 5:5. This is a love that He gives to us and which we then exhibit to the world. Sometimes the flesh gets in the way of us expressing this love...but if we walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit, the righteousness of all the law is fulfilled in us (Romans 8:4).
Yes, but I do not grant that the ten commandments are exclusive to the old covenant, or separate from the two great commandments in any way.
You are certainly entitled to your belief.
Amen
The Ten Commandments don't belong to <<the old covenant>> which is the undertaking of man and ever must be a covenant according to the vain and unfaithful nature of man who took the oath of it--who is all of us. GOD NEVER MADE AN OLD COVENANT OR A NEW COVENANT THAT EVER WOULD OR COULD GROW OLD.
What a LIE, claiming the hypocrite Pharisees spoke <<under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit>>... foolish blasphemy not worth analysis or critique it is so stupid.
"God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this Book if any man shall add", <John under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit wrote that in this Jesus "brake the sabbath" (John 5:18)>.
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John is the one who wrote John 5:18; and he was not relating what the Pharisees thought but made it his own statement that Jesus "brake the sabbath". And yes, he was in fact speaking under the inspiration of the Holy Ghost when he wrote this.
Carry on ... can a man change his own nature? Rather is a leopard able to change into the impala he eats.
