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followers o fChrist need to be baptized in teh name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit!

Matthew 28:18-20
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18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
And how did they baptize? In the Name of Jesus. Did they disobey Jesus? I say no.
 
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followers o fChrist need to be baptized in teh name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit!

Matthew 28:18-20
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18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.


Provide just one (1) scripture whereby an actual baptism is taking place in the name of Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.

Hint: Matthew 28:19 is not an actual baptism taking place.
 
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one trinity lemon.

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Provide just one (1) scripture whereby an actual baptism is taking place in the name of Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.

Hint: Matthew 28:19 is not an actual baptism taking place.

Don't need to! It is the command Jesus gave to the Apostles! Either this is a valid command or not. We are talking water baptism here and not the baptism of the Holy Spirit which occurs at the moment of salvation. That is a totally different baptism.

Matthew 28:17-20
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17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.

18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.


Prove this is just a suggestion or maybe just an idea Jesus tossed out!
 

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No they obeyed Jesus and Baptized with the Triune formula! There is no record that after Pentecost the apostles only baptized in Jesus name.
Acts 2:38 (NKJV)
38 Then Peter said to them, "Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins;
 

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Don't need to!


That seems to be your approach to Bible study - throw out scripture that does not agree with you.
You've done that on a previous post as well.


It is the command Jesus gave to the Apostles! Either this is a valid command or not.


I noticed you did this hat dance to escape the fact that you FAILED to provide just one (1) scripture whereby an actual baptism is taking place in the name of Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.

And, yes it is a command by Jesus - do you think EVERYONE got it wrong by NOT baptizing that way.
Or do you suppose they ALL knew something that YOU DO NOT KNOW!

Hint: It is the latter.


Prove this is just a suggestion or maybe just an idea Jesus tossed out!


No, not tossed out. They ALL obeyed it.
You are simply blind as to how or why!

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That seems to be your approach to Bible study - throw out scripture that does not agree with you.
You've done that on a previous post as well.

Seems you are like many. Throw an allegation and don't support it!

And, yes it is a command by Jesus - do you think EVERYONE got it wrong by NOT baptizing that way.
Or do you suppose they ALL knew something that YOU DO NOT KNOW!

Well if they were taught to baptize by the apostles according to this formula and did not- yes they got it wrong! A command is meant to be obeyed whether SCripture has examples of it or not!

If you are waiting to push acts 19 , don't. The early history of the church is a history of partial knowledge and lack of coordination.

However as the apostles teaching expanded, the the baptismal formula became widespread! If one wishes to day to baptize in just the name of Jesus- they are being disobedient, unless they are totally ignorant of any scripture. Which begs the question- How would they know to baptize anyhow???
 

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Acts 2:38 (NKJV)
38 Then Peter said to them, "Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins;

Now sho that when they water baptized them, they didn't use the triune formula as they were commanded to!

But as I studied Matt. 28- the command is for the nations! There may have been a distinction in the formula for Jews as opposed to gentiles. Though I cannot be sure. These were all people who already had personal knowledge of Jesus and were all Jews! You cannot make a doctrine out of Acts given that it is a book of transition from the Jewish worship to the church and the advance of the gospel to the gentiles.
 

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Seems you are like many. Throw an allegation and don't support it!


Well I guess that just shows what manner of man you are - here is the proof in post #1154...

Doesn't matter, it is still plural--elowah is the singular.


Well if they were taught to baptize by the apostles according to this formula and did not- yes they got it wrong! A command is meant to be obeyed whether SCripture has examples of it or not!

If you are waiting to push acts 19 , don't. The early history of the church is a history of partial knowledge and lack of coordination.

However as the apostles teaching expanded, the the baptismal formula became widespread! If one wishes to day to baptize in just the name of Jesus- they are being disobedient, unless they are totally ignorant of any scripture. Which begs the question- How would they know to baptize anyhow???


And you do yet another hat dance to avoid the fact that you FAILED (again) to provide just one (1) scripture whereby an actual baptism is taking place in the name of Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.

**IF** They baptized that way - either BEFORE OR AFTER Pentecost then Prove It and lets have The Scriptures. Otherwise admit you have NO PROOF!

You are standing firm on a claim that you have not provided scriptures for. That should be cause for ANY honest Bible student to look further into, including yourself.

God Bless!
 
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