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Personally I believe that many who deny eternal punishment in Hell are using it as a license to live in sin. I mean really, if everyone will be saved then we can party night and day, right? Rape, steal, lie, murder would be no big deal. Right? Well you're wrong! Hell is a horrifying place to be even for a second. Being there for eternity is almost unthinkable.

Luke 16:22-26 (NKJV)
[sup]22 [/sup]So it was that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels to Abraham's bosom. The rich man also died and was buried. [sup]23 [/sup]And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. [sup]24 [/sup]Then he cried and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.' [sup]25 [/sup]But Abraham said, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented. [sup]26 [/sup]And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.'
 

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Personally I believe that many who deny eternal punishment in Hell are using it as a license to live in sin. I mean really, if everyone will be saved then we can party night and day, right? Rape, steal, lie, murder would be no big deal. Right? Well you're wrong! Hell is a horrifying place to be even for a second. Being there for eternity is almost unthinkable.

Luke 16:22-26 (NKJV)


Really have you been there or know anyone who has been there?
 

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There are several NT accounts of the punishment in the Fire. Guess you missed this one:

Luke 16:22-26 (NKJV)
[sup]22 [/sup]So it was that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels to Abraham's bosom. The rich man also died and was buried. [sup]23 [/sup]And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. [sup]24 [/sup]Then he cried and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.' [sup]25 [/sup]But Abraham said, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented. [sup]26 [/sup]And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.'
 

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There are several NT accounts of the punishment in the Fire. Guess you missed this one:

Luke 16:22-26 (NKJV)
[sup]22 [/sup]So it was that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels to Abraham's bosom. The rich man also died and was buried. [sup]23 [/sup]And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. [sup]24 [/sup]Then he cried and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.' [sup]25 [/sup]But Abraham said, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented. [sup]26 [/sup]And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.'

Ever Hear of the Gemara Babylonicum?

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Chapter and verse please.

Seems you haven't.
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Personally I believe that many who deny eternal punishment in Hell are using it as a license to live in sin. I mean really, if everyone will be saved then we can party night and day, right? Rape, steal, lie, murder would be no big deal. Right? Well you're wrong! Hell is a horrifying place to be even for a second. Being there for eternity is almost unthinkable.

Luke 16:22-26 (NKJV)
[sup]22 [/sup]So it was that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels to Abraham's bosom. The rich man also died and was buried. [sup]23 [/sup]And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. [sup]24 [/sup]Then he cried and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.' [sup]25 [/sup]But Abraham said, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented. [sup]26 [/sup]And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.'

The teaching of a "hellfire" dates long before Jesus stepped on the earth. In the book The History of Hell, by Alice K. Turner (1993), noted this about the doctrine or teaching of a "hell": "The first accounts of the Land of the Dead that we know about were written nearly four thousand years ago on baked clay tablets from the Tigris-Euphrates Valley north of the Persian Gulf in Iraq. Sumer is the earliest name we have for the region....The Sumerians were conquered by the Semitic Akkadians, and the area began to be known as Babylonia, after the principal city, Babylon. The Sumerians, Akkadians, Babylonians, and neighboring Assyrians are frequently grouped as Mesopotamians, and they shared many of the same beliefs and myths, though their gods sometimes went by different names." Thus, from ancient Babylon and the surrounding area came forth the belief of a "hellfire."

This belief continued down through the centuries to the classical Greek period, before Alexander the Great conquered Medo-Persia in 331 B.C.E. In the book Histoire des enfers (The History of Hell, 2005), by Georges Minois, page 50, it said: "Of all classical Greek philosophers, the one who has had the greatest influence on traditional views of Hell is Plato (428 ?-347 B.C.E.)” The New Encyclopædia Britannica (1988), Volume 25, page 890, states: “From the middle of the 2nd century AD Christians who had some training in Greek philosophy began to feel the need to express their faith in its terms . . . The philosophy that suited them best was Platonism [the teachings of Plato].” Thus, the Babylonian teaching of "hell" that Plato taught was now absorbed into so-called "Christianity".

The Catechism of the Catholic Church, 1994 edition, page 270, states: “The teaching of the Church affirms the existence of hell and its eternity. Immediately after death the souls of those who die in a state of mortal sin descend into hell, where they suffer the punishments of hell, ‘eternal fire.’ The chief punishment of hell is eternal separation from God.” Hence, orthodox "Christianity" teaches "hell" as a doctrine that is supposedly supported by the Bible. But does it ?

Those who are reasonable, willing to examine the Bible without bias, will find that the churches view of "hell" is not found in the Bible. At Jeremiah 7, God condemns the nation of Israel for having "built the high places of Tophet, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my heart."(Jer 7:31, King James Bible) He says that "the children of Judah have done evil in my sight, saith the Lord: they have set their abominations in the house which is called by my name, to pollute it"(Jer 7:30, King James Bible) Thus, God calls the burning of the Israelites "sons and their daughters in the fire", "evil in my sight....abominations." Could a righteous God condemn the Israelites for these wicked actions, while at the same time burn people in a "hellfire" ?

At Jeremiah 19, God again scathingly criticises the Israelites, saying that "they have built also the high places of Baal, to burn their sons with fire for burnt offerings unto Baal, which I commanded not, nor spake it, neither came it into my mind."(Jer 19:5, King James Bible) Furthermore, at Jeremiah 32, God says concerning this practice: "Because of all the evil of the children of Israel and of the children of Judah, which they have done to provoke me to anger, they, their kings, their princes, their priests, and their prophets, and the men of Judah, and the inhabitants of Jerusalem.....And they built the high places of Baal, which are in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin."(Jer 32:32, 35, King James Bible)

How could God condemn the Israelite nation for "burn(ing) their sons with fire for burnt offerings unto Baal", even saying that "I commanded not, nor spake it, neither came it into my mind" and yet burn people in a hellfire ? Would this not be hypocritical of God to condemn the Israelites for ' burning their sons with fire' while at the same time burning people, even wicked people, in a hellfire ? Too, could God be a "God of love" while also burning people for all eternity ?(1 John 4:8) The two are incompatible, diametrically opposed.

Hence, the teaching of a "hellfire" began some four thousand years ago on the plains of Mesopotamia, at Babylon. In the book of Revelation, a mystic city, called Babylon the Great, is seen in vision by the apostle John. The ancient city of Babylon is the prototype of Babylon the Great. Ancient Babylon was known for its paganistic or false religion, and from which false religious teachings and doctrines originated, such as hellfire, immortality of the soul, a trinity of gods.

At Revelation 18, after Babylon the Great's fall, "another voice out of heaven say(s): “Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues. For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind."(Rev 18:4, 5) Thus, Babylon the Great, the world empire of false religion, is to be called to justice by God for "her sins have massed together clear up to heaven," including the teaching of a pagan hellfire.
 

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There are many NT accounts of punishment in the fire. Are you saying they are all erroneous?
 

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Hello,

If someone asks you what the true religion is, what will you answer? Christianity. Even though there are hundreds other religions in the world. Because we believe in Christ, and we know in our hearts it is right.

I have asked people of other religions. They too believe they are right, because they too feel it in their hearts. They are no different from us.

Then how do you really know what is true and what is not? Is it right that you may be damned to suffer in the afterlife just because you couldn't guess which one religion out of hundreds is the true one?

If your heart in the right place so that you are really searching for the one and only Truth, rather than pursuing justification for position where you already are, then you will be given the right answer. The problem is that without a real love of that one Truth, a person will end up being deluded. he won't know that he is deluded. He will not believe that he is deluded.

"And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie" II Thess 2:10-11
 

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Hello,

If someone asks you what the true religion is, what will you answer? Christianity. Even though there are hundreds other religions in the world. Because we believe in Christ, and we know in our hearts it is right.

I have asked people of other religions. They too believe they are right, because they too feel it in their hearts. They are no different from us.

Then how do you really know what is true and what is not? Is it right that you may be damned to suffer in the afterlife just because you couldn't guess which one religion out of hundreds is the true one?


because only the christian God was God enough!!! To COME down . The creater become the creature and has done every thing perfect for us --------we are saved by his work alone.


the false gods simply are not god enough to do it all and perfectly ---------for us. :D
 

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There are many NT accounts of punishment in the fire. Are you saying they are all erroneous?

The Bible is harmonious throughout. In dealing with the nation of Israel, God has shown his attributes, with the most notable being love.(Ex. 34:6) So the question remains: How could God condemn the nation of Israel for ' burning their sons and daughters in the fire', which was only momentary, and yet eternally burn people in a hellfire ? You, along with a whole host of people fail to grasp that with "the Father of the celestial lights, (that) with him there is not a variation of the turning of the shadow."(James 1:17)

Hence, God never changes, unlike a shadow that keeps changing in size and direction. Jehovah God is constant and dependable, even in the minutest details. He is “a God of faithfulness.”(Deuteronomy 32:4) Hence, if he has condemned the Israelites for their actions, calling it an "abomination....evil in my sight....sin", then how could he, at the same time, burn people in a hellfire ? You know as well as I do that anyone who does this is a hypocrite ! So explain how God can be righteous, unhypocritical, yet has people burning in a hellfire ?

I am well aware that the King James Bible uses the word "hell" and "hellfire" several times. However, these words have been wrongly translated. For example, at Matthew 5:22, the King James Bible reads of Jesus as saying: "But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire." Did Jesus really say "hellfire" ? No.

The word Jesus used here was Gehenna (as also in verse 29, where the word "hell" is used), and comes from the Hebrew word geh·hin·nom´, meaning “valley of Hinnom”. This place was for burning refuse outside of Jerusalem on the south wall. No living persons were ever thrown there, only the dead carcasses of ones such as criminals to be consumed by the "fire and sulphur", along with other trash from the city. Fire destroys things whereby it cannot be used again. Hence, Jesus use of the word Gehenna shows that individuals who are assigned there, are not tormented, but everlastingly dead, destroyed forever, with no hope of a resurrection.

This is even in harmony with Matthew 10:28, with the King James Bible saying of Jesus words: "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell (Greek Gehenna)." Thus here, Jesus says that those who are "hell" or Gehenna, are destroyed, not tormented.

That the King James Bible is inconsistent with regard to rendering a Hebrew or Greek word, can be seen in the fact that the Hebrew word she’ohl´ is translated 31 times as "hell", 31 times as "grave" and 3 times as "pit".(In the Catholic Douay Version, she’ohl´ is rendered “hell” 64 times, “pit” once, and “death” once)

Collier’s Encyclopedia (1986, Vol. 12, p. 28) says concerning “Hell”: “First it stands for the Hebrew Sheol of the Old Testament and the Greek Hades of the Septuagint and New Testament. Since Sheol in Old Testament times referred simply to the abode of the dead and suggested no moral distinctions, the word ‘hell,’ as understood today, is not a happy translation.”

And if you were really serious about your Bible study, you could of easily have found out that word "hell" in archaic English meant, not roasting someone, but to "conceal" something.(Old English hel(l) . Ultimately from an Indo-European word meaning “to conceal,” which is also the ancestor of English conceal, Microsoft® Encarta® Reference Library 2005) Webster’s Third New International Dictionary, unabridged, under “Hell” says: “fr[om] . . . helan to conceal.” The word “hell” thus originally conveyed no thought of heat or torment but simply of a ‘covered over or concealed place.’ In the old English dialect the expression “helling potatoes” meant, not to roast them, but simply to place the potatoes in the ground or in a cellar.

“Hellfire” has been a basic teaching in Christendom for many centuries. It is understandable why The Encyclopedia Americana (1956, Vol. XIV, p. 81) said: “Much confusion and misunderstanding has been caused through the early translators of the Bible persistently rendering the Hebrew Sheol and the Greek Hades and Gehenna by the word hell. The simple transliteration of these words by the translators of the revised editions of the Bible has not sufficed to appreciably clear up this confusion and misconception.”

You take the illustration or parable that Jesus gave of "Lazarus and the Rich Man" at Luke 16:19-31 as being literal, when in fact, it is not. It is, as said, an illustration. How is this known ? By looking at whom Jesus was dealing with, in this case, the Pharisees. At Luke 16, Jesus had just given an illustration of a "rich man and his steward."(Luke 16:1-8) He then proceeded to tell his audience, which included the Pharisees: "Also, I say to you, Make friends for yourselves by means of the unrighteous riches, so that, when such fail, they may receive you into the everlasting dwelling places....No house servant can be a slave to two masters; for, either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will stick to the one and despise the other. You cannot be slaves to God and to riches.”(Luke 16:9, 13)

Luke 16:14 says: "Now the Pharisees, who were money lovers, were listening to all these things, and they began to sneer at him. Consequently he said to them: “You are those who declare yourselves righteous before men, but God knows your hearts; because what is lofty among men is a disgusting thing in God’s sight." To reveal their haughty and arrogant attitude that was "a disgusting thing in God's sight", Jesus gave the illustration of "Lazarus and the Rich man" and showed who were the ones that were really pleasing to God.

The "rich man" pictured the religious leaders, who fed spiritual "crumbs" to "Lazarus", the common people ("the people of the land", Hebrew le‛am-ha·’a′rets). These looked down on them. But Jesus said that a change was to occur, for the death of each signified that God's favor would be reversed, and that the "rich man" or religious leaders would be in "torments" due to the strong condemnation of them by "Lazarus", the common people who accepted Jesus whereas the religious leaders rejected him.

Jesus said it succinctly only days before his death, by asking the religious leaders: "What do you think? A man had two children. Going up to the first, he said, ‘Child, go work today in the vineyard.’ In answer this one said, ‘I will, sir,’ but did not go out. Approaching the second, he said the same. In reply this one said, ‘I will not.’ Afterwards he felt regret and went out. Which of the two did the will of his father ?”(Matt 21:28-30)

How did the religious leaders respond ? They said: "The latter." What did Jesus then tell them ? "Truly I say to you that the tax collectors and the harlots are going ahead of you into the kingdom of God. For John came to you in a way of righteousness, but you did not believe him. However, the tax collectors and the harlots believed him, and you, although you saw this, did not feel regret afterwards so as to believe him."(Matt 21:31, 32)

Hence, the common people, "the tax collectors and the harlots", were now ahead of the religious leaders in favor with God. As a result, the religious leaders were now being tormented by the scathing condemnations that Jesus and now the am-ha·’a′rets or common people were giving out. For example, Stephen's cutting words at Acts 7, caused the religious leaders to retort in such anger as to murder him.(Acts 7:54-60)

So, Luke 16:19-31 is not about people being tormented in a "hellfire". Rather the rich man represented the religious leaders who were favored with spiritual privileges and opportunities but lost them, and Lazarus pictured the common people who hungered for spiritual nourishment, but were only fed spiritual "crumbs" by the religious leaders. Because the Lazarus class spoke Jesus condemning words, this tormented the religious leaders, who hated Jesus.(John 11:53)
 

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Matthew 13:49-50 (NKJV)
[sup]49 [/sup]So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just, [sup]50 [/sup]and cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth."
 

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Matthew 13:49-50 (NKJV)
[sup]49 [/sup]So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just, [sup]50 [/sup]and cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth."

You are still looking at the word "hell" from the viewpoint of the churches. Jesus used fire as symbol of destruction, not torment. At Matthew 13, Jesus gave several illustrations concerning the "kingdom of the heavens." The one at Matthew 13:24-30, of a "man that that sowed fine seed in his field", with Jesus explanation coming at verses 36-43, does not teach eternal torment. The "man that sowed fine seed" pictures Jesus Christ illustratively as the one who laid the foundation for the Christian congregation by preaching the "good news of the kingdom", and the expression "while men were sleeping" (Matt 13:25) pictures the apostles and their subsequent deaths, who acted as "restraint" (2 Thess 2:6) to the oncoming tide of apostasy while alive, and that took firm hold after the last apostle John's death. This illustration will be completely fulfilled at the end of these "last days", when "the weeds are collected and burned with fire (not tormented, but destroyed)".(Matt 13:40)

Hence, Jesus gave an explanation of the illustration at Matthew 13:24-30 to his apostles at Matthew 13:36-43. All the different people and situations pictured who were involved and events that would occur following the death of the apostles. The "sower of the fine seed is the Son of man (Jesus Christ); the field is the world (those of mankind alienated from God); as far the fine seed, these are the sons of the kingdom (those chosen and anointed by Jehovah God to serve in the official capacity as "kings and priests", Rev 5:9, 10); but the weeds (counterfeit Christians) are the sons of the wicked one (Satan) and the enemy that sowed them (or "weeds") is the Devil. The harvest is a conclusion of a system of things ("end of the world", King James Bible), and the reapers are angels (these provide invisible assistance to loyal servants of Jehovah God to accomplish the preaching of the "good news of the kingdom" before "the end comes", Matt 24:14)."

Jesus now says that "the Son of man will send forth his angels, and they will collect out from his kingdom all things that cause stumbling and persons doing lawlessness." Thus, all those who call themselves "Christian" as part of Jesus "kingdom" will be judged, and those who are "doing lawlessness" will collected out and the angels "will pitch them into the fiery furnace (to be destroyed, not tormented). But just before they are destroyed, Jesus said that these would be "weeping and....gnashing...their teeth", angry that they are being "collected out" as unfit as servants of Jehovah God.

In finality, Jesus says that "at that time the righteous ones will shine as brightly as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Let him that has ears listen." Thus, this illustration serves notice that those who are "weeds" or counterfeit Christians, will suffer, not eternal torments, but rather eternal destruction after having been "collected out from (Jesus) kingdom", at the battle of Armageddon in the near future.

Likewise of the illustration at Matthew 13:47-50, whereby again counterfeit Christians are seen. These all proclaim to be "chosen" by God to go to heaven. These, however, fail to grasp what makes up a true Christian, and are still "part of the world", of which true Christians are "no part of."(John 15:19) Hence, a separating work is in order now, whereby those likened to fishermen (angels) "collected the fine ones into vessels, but the unsuitable they threw away." Jesus said that is how "it will be in the conclusion of the system of things"("end of the world", King James Bible), in which "the angels will go out and separate the wicked from among the righteous and cast them into the fiery furnace (not tormented, but destroyed)." As mentioned before, these counterfeit Christians will not go peaceably, but will be "weeping and...gnashing...their teeth" for having been thrown away by Jesus.
 

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Wailing and gnashing of teeth sounds like conscience torment to me. Scripture is extremely clear on this and you can't get around it no matter how hard you try. It's simply pure emotionalism that clouds the issue and causes long winding posts full of mental gymnastics like we're seeing here.
 

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What I am looking at are the many NT references to punishment in the fire. Call it whatever you please. It is in the NT.

The word "hell" in the King James Bible (as well as in the Catholic Douay Version and most older translations) was used to translate the Hebrew word she’ohl´ and the Greek word hai´des. In the King James Version the word “hell” is rendered from she’ohl´ 31 times and from hai´des 10 times. This version is not consistent, however, since she’ohl´ is also translated 31 times “grave” and 3 times “pit.” In the Douay Version she’ohl´ is rendered “hell” 64 times, “pit” once, and “death” once.

There is great necessity to understand the proper meaning of she’ohl´ and hai´des. At Psalms 16:10, the Hebrew word she’ohl´ is rendered as "hell", but at Psalms 31:1 and 88:3, it is rendered as "grave." This is being inconsistent and causes much confusion. In addition, in the King James Bible, the word "hell" is used at Acts 2:31 whereby the apostle Peter is quoting Psalms 16:10, but in the New King James Bible, the original Greek word hai´des is used instead. Why did the NKJV change "hell" to it's Greek wording ? Because it presented Jesus as having gone to "hell". This posed a problem for them, but instead of changing "hell" in all locations to either she’ohl´ or hai´des, these left them in order to continue promoting a "hellfire".

Collier’s Encyclopedia (1986, Vol. 12, p. 28) says concerning “Hell”: “First it stands for the Hebrew Sheol of the Old Testament and the Greek Hades of the Septuagint and New Testament. Since Sheol in Old Testament times referred simply to the abode of the dead and suggested no moral distinctions, the word ‘hell,’ as understood today, is not a happy translation.”

The word "hell" in archaic English meant, not roasting someone, but to "conceal" something.(Old English hel(l) . Ultimately from an Indo-European word meaning “to conceal,” which is also the ancestor of English conceal, Microsoft® Encarta® Reference Library 2005) It is, in fact, because of the way that the word “hell” is understood today that it is such an unsatisfactory translation of these original Bible words. Webster’s Third New International Dictionary, unabridged, under “Hell” says: “fr[om] . . . helan to conceal.” The word “hell” thus originally conveyed no thought of heat or torment but simply of a ‘covered over or concealed place.’ In the old English dialect the expression “helling potatoes” meant, not to roast them, but simply to place the potatoes in the ground or in a cellar.

The meaning given today to the word “hell” is that portrayed in Dante’s Divine Comedy and Milton’s Paradise Lost, which meaning is completely foreign to the original definition of the word. The idea of a “hell” of fiery torment, however, dates back long before Dante or Milton. The idea of suffering after death is found among the pagan religious teachings of ancient peoples in Babylon and Egypt. Babylonian and Assyrian beliefs depicted the “nether world . . . as a place full of horrors, . . . presided over by gods and demons of great strength and fierceness.” Although ancient Egyptian religious texts do not teach that the burning of any individual victim would go on forever, they do portray the “Other World” as featuring “pits of fire” for “the damned.”—The Religion of Babylonia and Assyria, by Morris Jastrow, Jr., 1898, p. 581; The Book of the Dead, with introduction by E. Wallis Budge, 1960.

The word "hellfire," is used three times in the King James Bible and NKJV (at Matt 5:22, 18:9, and Mark 9:47), and is rendered from the Greek word Gehenna, not hai´des. At Matthew 5:22 in the NKJV, in the cross reference concerning "hellfire", it says: "Gr. Gehenna." What was Jesus pointing to when he used the Greek word Gehenna ? Everlasting destruction, not eternal torment. Note Jesus words at Matthew 10:28, according to NKJV: "And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." Thus, no torment was meant by Jesus but instead destruction.

However, the Greek word hai´des means, not everlasting destruction, but mankind's common grave, such as at Matthew 11:23, whereby the King James Bible reads "hell", but the NKJV reads "Hades" or at Matthew 16:18, in which the King James Bible reads "hell", whereas the NKJV reads "Hades". It is also of real interest that at Revelation 20:13, that "death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them:"(King James Bible, "Hades" NKJV) Thus, from the Bible "hell" or mankind's common grave, a person can receive a resurrection, to have the opportunity to enjoy life on a paradise earth.(Ps 37:11, 29)

As said earlier, there is a great need to reexamine what the Bible "hell" or "hellfire" is, and not from the churches viewpoint.
 

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As I said earlier, punishment in the fire is mentioned several times in the NT. It's quite evident that MANY who spend eternity in Hell will be those who deny its existence.