Why did God want Adam to remain blind?

Enoch111 said:

If indeed he was "so blind" how in the world did he identify all those animals which he named? Do you see how absurd your idea is? As to nakedness, we can leave that for another time.

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Genesis 3:7
Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves loin coverings.

The text indicates that the eyes of both of them were opened, meaning that each of them gained new understanding, perception, and discernment. New knowledge builds on prior knowledge. In this case, knowing themselves to be guilty this lead to the knowledge of vulnerability and intimacy. Literally speaking, these two people are subject to harm, i.e. punishment from God. Psychologically, this feeling manifests as the need to cover the body. The didn't understand the concept of naked until they understood the concept of harm.

CadyandZoe said:

Is Adam the kind of person who will always trust God and believe his word; or is Adam the kind of person who will weigh his own values against God's values and chose his own?

When Adam ate from the tree, the question was answered. His choice indicates that Adam is the kind of person who decides for himself what is good and what is evil.

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Adam had been told to cleave to Eve. They had been told to be fruitful. If Adam had not eaten of the fruit and Eve was cast out, how could he cleave to her? How could they obey the commandment to be fruitful?

What if Adam decided to be willing to lay down his life to be with Eve out of love for her and so they could obey God by being fruitful and multiplying?

Giuliano said:

Adam had been told to cleave to Eve. They had been told to be fruitful. If Adam had not eaten of the fruit and Eve was cast out, how could he cleave to her? How could they obey the commandment to be fruitful?

What if Adam decided to be willing to lay down his life to be with Eve out of love for her and so they could obey God by being fruitful and multiplying?

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Good point. I thought of that also. But remember what Jesus said. Those who want to be his disciples, must choose between him and family. Perhaps Adam might have asked God to create a new wife for him. I don't know. What do you think?

Giuliano said:

I have trouble seeing that says explicitly that Eve conceived Cain by coupling with the serpent. I can see how it could easily be inferred; but then I have problems with Genesis which says Adam was Cain's father and has Eve saying Cain was a gift from God.

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Gen 4:25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.

Eve did not mention Cain as her seed, only Abel.

Cain was thrown out of the garden, after he left he took him a wife. His children can be found in the bible and they always stayed in close contact to the children of Adam.

As we move ahead to Abraham, we see his son Issac had two sons, Esau and Jacob. Both were told not to take a wife of Canaan.
Gen 28:6 When Esau saw that Isaac had blessed Jacob, and sent him away to Padanaram, to take him a wife from thence; and that as he blessed him he gave him a charge, saying, Thou shalt not take a wife of the daughters of Canaan.

Esau did not obey Jacob.
Gen 36:2 Esau took his wives of the daughters of Canaan;
Esau did as he wanted and took wives of Cain, as you notice they were the daughters of Canaan. These children of Esau migrated to Babylon and when the Jews were captured by Babylon, in 450 BC, they eventually begin to take wives of the Babylon's who were the children of Esau.
These are the ones who took on the duty's of the Scribes and Pharisees when they went back to Israel to rebuild the temple. That is why Jesus said:
Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

CadyandZoe said:

Good point. I thought of that also. But remember what Jesus said. Those who want to be his disciples, must choose between him and family.

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Do you mean this passage?

Mark 10:8 Then Peter began to say unto him, Lo, we have left all, and have followed thee.
29 And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel's,
30 But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.

Peter was married. He left his wife and house temporarily but I don't they got divorced since we see Jesus visiting Peter's house and healing his mother-in-law.

Perhaps Adam might have asked God to create a new wife for him. I don't know. What do you think?

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I think asking for another wife would have been heartless and unloving. It would also have been a betrayal of self. Better to stick with what God gave him.

Ephesians 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
33 Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.

Some may say Adam should have loved God more than he loved Eve -- but is it possible to say we love God if we don't love other people first? I think of marriage and even friendships of teaching us about love. God is so big, how could we know how to love Him all at once? I think Adam and Eve were first meant to learn to love each other; then when they understood what love was, they could love God better. Genesis is quoted where Adam says almost prophetically:

Genesis 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

Rocky Wiley said:

Gen 4:25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.

Eve did not mention Cain as her seed, only Abel.

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You appear to be changing the subject somewhat. The text says Adam knew Eve, she conceived and Cain was born. She then said Cain was a gift from the LORD.

Cain was thrown out of the garden, after he left he took him a wife. His children can be found in the bible and they always stayed in close contact to the children of Adam.

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The way I read it, Adam and Eve were driven out of Eden and Cain was born outside Eden.

As we move ahead to Abraham, we see his son Issac had two sons, Esau and Jacob. Both were told not to take a wife of Canaan.
Gen 28:6 When Esau saw that Isaac had blessed Jacob, and sent him away to Padanaram, to take him a wife from thence; and that as he blessed him he gave him a charge, saying, Thou shalt not take a wife of the daughters of Canaan.

Esau did not obey Jacob.
Gen 36:2 Esau took his wives of the daughters of Canaan;
Esau did as he wanted and took wives of Cain, as you notice they were the daughters of Canaan. These children of Esau migrated to Babylon and when the Jews were captured by Babylon, in 450 BC, they eventually begin to take wives of the Babylon's who were the children of Esau.
These are the ones who took on the duty's of the Scribes and Pharisees when they went back to Israel to rebuild the temple. That is why Jesus said:
Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

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Un, Canaan was the grandson of Noah. There may have been some ancestry of Cain involved since there are two versions of it in the Jewish literature. One is that Noah married a descendant of Cain. The other is that Ham did.

Giuliano said:

Do you mean this passage?

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I was talking about this passage,

Luke 14:26
If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple.

CadyandZoe said:

I was talking about this passage,

Luke 14:26
If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple.

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I think maybe "hate" is an unfortunate choice of words in that verse although it frequently does mean "hate." I think it means "disregard" -- I think it means that if someone valued his own life too much to the point he'd change course, he can't be a disciple. Family and friends and everything else had to take a back seat if he wanted to become a disciple.

Luke 14:33 So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.

Although Adam couldn't become a disciple of Jesus, I think he showed disregard for his own life. None of us might be here today if he had wanted to stay in Eden alone while Eve left and died. I think Eve showed contempt for her future children by being selfish and not caring what might happen to her children; but I think maybe Adam cared and did what he could even if meant it would cost him his life.

CadyandZoe said:

The text indicates that the eyes of both of them were opened, meaning that each of them gained new understanding, perception, and discernment.

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Yet that was not physical blindness which was changed but self-awareness AFTER disobedience (which also included guilt).

Enoch111 said:

Yet that was not physical blindness which was changed but self-awareness AFTER disobedience (which also included guilt).

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Yes, of course.

janc3 said:

Adam was so blind before he ate the fruit that he did not even know he was naked. Only when he ate from the fruit, he got knowledge. It is not bad to get wisdom, for God himself said: "Adam became like one of us", Adam became like God by getting knowledge, so what is so bad about that?
Why didn't God want Adam to understand and know things?
What is also very interesting is that the word wisdom in Hebrew is formed from a word that means "to recognize bad and good", so what Adam got when he ate the fruit was wisdom.
What was the fruit? Was it really a fruit? Was there really a tree, was there really a serpent, or is all this symbolic?

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innocence no knowledge of sin before the fall just rely on God not so sure how blind he was /imo God had every thing lined up all they had do was just listen. but they listened to the wrong voice