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I can let my hair down here:)
Yeah me too,.. we can run from conviction together. ;)

Actually, I like this. I think we should all be able to share the real us with friends, maybe especially with a Christian online community, without fear of saying something "unacceptable." I think anyone here who is in a right Spirit who opposed your "three Hs" was merely trying to share concerns out of genuine Christian love. And that, too, is something that is spiritually healthy. As scripture says, "Speaking the truth in love, let us grow up into Him in all things."

@April_Rose. I think you will find a lot friends here, and many who actually can give you good advice, because as TV was saying with age does often come wisdom. But I would never condone it being an atmosphere where people couldn't think for themselves and express the real them. I admire that. Just understand that the members here will want to share the real them as well, and the solution is sometimes to agree to disagree on something and set it aside for a later time.

I hope you enjoy being a member here, and hope you feel welcome,
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How is a person able to make wise decisions that pleases God, whose personal name is Jehovah, such as how should a true Christian view Halloween (or All Hallows Eve), Harry Potter (or spiritistic movies), and horror movies ? What did Jesus tell Satan the Devil when tested some 40 days after his baptism regarding food ? He told him, quoting from Deuteronomy 8:3: "It is written: ' Man must live, not on bread alone, but on every word that comes from Jehovah's mouth".(Matt 4:3, 4)

At 2 Corinthians 6, the apostle Paul wrote: "Do nor become unevenly yoked with unbelievers. For what fellowship do righteousness and lawlessness have ? Or what sharing does light (of Bible truth) have with darkness (or falsehoods) ? Furthermore, what harmony is there between Christ (and "the truth" that he taught) and Belial (used as a designation for Satan, as for instance, at 1 Sam 25:17, Nabal was called literally "a son of Belial" or "worthless man")......And what agreement does God's temple have with idols ? For we (or spirit anointed Christians, Eph 1:13, 14) are a temple of a living God (as opposed to the false gods of the nations that "cannot speak......cannot see.....cannot smell.....cannot feel.....cannot walk......and the people who make them will become just like them [or dead]", Ps 115:5-8); just as God said:....."Therefore, get out from among them, and separate yourselves ', says Jehovah, ' and quit touching the unclean thing ', and ' I will take you in '. "And I will become father to you, and you will become sons and daughters to me ', says Jehovah, the Almighty".(2 Cor 6:14-18)
How many recognize what Halloween involves, such as witches, supernatural forces, werewolves, vampires, ghosts, black cats, jack-o-lanterns, trick-or-treating and spirits of the dead ? How many have read what Jehovah told the nation of Israel concerning dealing with the wicked spirit realm who are God's enemies ?

At Deuteronomy 18, Moses told the nation of Israel just before their entering into the land of Canaan: "When you have entered into the land that Jehovah you God is giving you, you must not learn to imitate the detestable practices of those nations. There should not be found in you anyone who makes his son pass through the fire (literally to burn them in the fire as a sacrifice to such false gods as Molech, Jer 32:35), anyone who employs divination (or the whole scope of gaining secret knowledge, especially about future events, through the aid of occult powers, such as using the Ouija board), anyone who practicing magic (secret arts and uncanny powers used to accomplish things beyond what is normal, that is associated with spiritistic, occult powers), anyone who looks for omens (or anything viewed as giving some indication about the future, portending good or evil, such as tea leaves, or the lines on one's palm [or chirology], Fortune Cookies, believing in Good Luck, and is a form of divination), a sorcerer (or one who employs magical arts), anyone binding others with a spell (such as witchcraft that cast spells to cause such things as death on an "enemy"), anyone who consults a spirit medium (anyone who wants to link up with the occult) or a fortune-teller (such as crystal ball gazing, reading tea leaves [or tasseography] or tarot cards, whereby almost all wear pointed hats as witches wear), or anyone who inquires of the dead (or a seance). For whoever does these things is detestable to Jehovah, and on account of these detestable practices Jehovah your God is driving them (or the nations who practice the occult living in the land of Canaan as well as surrounding nations) away from before you. You should prove yourself blameless before Jehovah your God".(Deut 18:9-13)

Note what an encyclopedia says about Halloween: "Many of the ancient peoples of Europe marked the end of the harvest season and the beginning of winter by celebrating a holiday in late autumn. The most important of these holidays to influence later Halloween customs was Samhain, a holiday observed by the ancient Celts, a tribal people who inhabited most of Western and Central Europe in the first millennium bc. Among the Celts, Samhain marked the end of one year and the beginning of the next. It was one of four Celtic holidays linked to important transitions in the annual cycle of seasons".(Microsoft ® Encarta ® Reference Library 2005)

It further said: "Samhain began at sundown on October 31 and extended into the following day. According to the Celtic pagan religion, known as Druidism, the spirits of those who had died in the preceding year roamed the earth on Samhain evening. The Celts sought to ward off these spirits with offerings of food and drink. The Celts also built bonfires at sacred hilltop sites and performed rituals, often involving human and animal sacrifices, to honor Druid deities......By the end of the 1st century ad, the Roman Empire had conquered most of the Celtic lands. In the process of incorporating the Celts into their empire, the Romans adapted and absorbed some Celtic traditions as part of their own pagan and Catholic religious observances.......The Roman Catholic Church often incorporated modified versions of older religious traditions in order to win converts. For example, Pope Gregory IV sought to replace Samhain with All Saints’ Day in 835. All Souls’ Day, closer in spirit to Samhain and modern Halloween, was first instituted at a French monastery in 998 and quickly spread throughout Europe" as a religious holiday that the Catholic church accepted.(Microsoft ® Encarta ® Reference Library 2005)

So Halloween is just another name for the Celtic observance of Samhain, whereby "during the ancient Celtic festival of Samhain, from which Halloween was derived, Druids burned huge sacrificial wooden effigies known as wicker men atop sacred hilltop sites. The wicker men were sometimes filled with animals, prisoners of war, criminals, and other sacrifices to Druid deities".(Microsoft ® Encarta ® Reference Library 2005)

And is not Harry Potter the same as dealing with spiritism or the demons. And what about horror movies that often involves "blood and guts" ? How many have read what the apostle Paul wrote to the Philippian Christians ? At Philippians 4, he tells them: "Finally, my brothers, whatever things are true, whatever things are of serious concern, whatever things are righteous, whatever things are chaste, whatever things are lovable, whatever things are well-spoken-of, whtatever things are virtuous (or moral integrity), and whatever things are praiseworthy, continue considering these things".(Phil 4:8)

And how many have read what Jehovah said through David at Psalms 5, in which it reads: "No arrogant person may stand in your presence. You hate all those who behave wickedly; You will destroy those who speak lies. Jehovah detests violent and deceptive people" ?(Ps 5:5, 6)

So, for those who carefully read the Bible, the answer is clear, that those who want Jehovah's everlasting blessing, avoids Halloween, Harry Potter and horror movies. Revelation 21:7, 8 states: "Anyone conquering (or not giving into Satan's world of politics [or "the wild beast", Rev 13:1, 2], false religion [or Babylon the Great, Rev 17:5], greedy commerce [or "merchants of the earth", loving material things, Rev 18:11], avoiding anything that the demons promote), will inherit these things (or the blessing of everlasting life on a paradise earth, Rev 21:3-5; see also Ps 37:11, 29), and I will be his God and he will be my son. But as for the cowards and those without faith and those who are disgusting in their filth and murderers and the sexually immoral and those practicing spiritism and idolators (such as making someone "my hero", or worshipping sports, entertainment, or political figures, sex, or themselves, etc) and all the liars, their portion will be in the (symbolic) lake that burns with fire and sulfur (or everlasting destruction, not torment). This means the second death (for the first death is Adamic death from which a person can be resurrected, but not from the "second death" which Jehovah brings on a rebellious person as an adverse judgment against them)".
 

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Yeah me too,.. we can run from conviction together. ;)

Being yourself and not being convicted isn't the same thing. No one here is telling you, you can't be yourself.
Confusing evil for being yourself is a road to hell. It's the same excuse homosexuals use to say there is nothing wrong with homosexuality because they are just being themselves. God wants you to be yourself and turn from evil, these two things do not go against each other.
 
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So Halloween is just another name for the Celtic observance of Samhain, whereby "during the ancient Celtic festival of Samhain, from which Halloween was derived, Druids burned huge sacrificial wooden effigies known as wicker men atop sacred hilltop sites. The wicker men were sometimes filled with animals, prisoners of war, criminals, and other sacrifices to Druid deities".(Microsoft ® Encarta ® Reference Library 2005)

So that's where that came from! There is actually an old horror movie called The Wicker Man, where at the end of the film the main character gets burned alive inside a giant wicker man by a cult on a remote island.

I didn't know that was connected to Samhain, however. Explains the human sacrifice associated with Halloween practiced today.
 

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Actually, I like this. I think we should all be able to share the real us with friends, maybe especially with a Christian online community, without fear of saying something "unacceptable." I think anyone here who is in a right Spirit who opposed your "three Hs" was merely trying to share concerns out of genuine Christian love. And that, too, is something that is spiritually healthy. As scripture says, "Speaking the truth in love, let us grow up into Him in all things."

Great. The problem is whose truth? Me, @April_Rose , and a few others love Halloween but as can be seen in this thread people think their truth is better. We share things important to us and well it's not just the truth and even I can do that. No one should come in and act like they are holy and can dispense advice. That is what rubs me wrong here many (not you) try to correct you to them not the truth even though they might think it is. Like Halloween, Horror movies, and Harry Porter, they may not be everyone's jam but we like them and no one was asking for the advice about it being all spooky and satanic. Anyway sorry @April_Rose for taking your thread off topic
 
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Great. The problem is whose truth? Me, @April_Rose , and a few others love Halloween but as can be seen in this thread people think their truth is better. We share things important to us and well it's not just the truth and even I can do that. No one should come in and act like they are holy and can dispense advice. That is what rubs me wrong here many (not you) try to correct you to them not the truth even though they might think it is. Like Halloween, Horror movies, and Harry Porter, they may not be everyone's jam but we like them and no one was asking for the advice about it being all spooky and satanic. Anyway sorry @April_Rose for taking your thread off topic








No problem,.. I love you!! :D
 
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Great. The problem is whose truth? Me, @April_Rose , and a few others love Halloween but as can be seen in this thread people think their truth is better. We share things important to us and well it's not just the truth and even I can do that. No one should come in and act like they are holy and can dispense advice. That is what rubs me wrong here many (not you) try to correct you to them not the truth even though they might think it is. Like Halloween, Horror movies, and Harry Porter, they may not be everyone's jam but we like them and no one was asking for the advice about it being all spooky and satanic. Anyway sorry @April_Rose for taking your thread off topic

I condone sharing personal perspectives, but I do have a problem with being judgmental, because we are all created differently with different interests related to our callings. I've always had an interest in the supernatural, and that led me to studying the occult for many years, even as I was growing as a Christian. The Lord has revealed to me things about occult theology and practice that even most occultists don't know, but it is because He exposes all things, even the things of darkness to the Light, and my life is dedicated to destroying the works of the enemy. But anyone who would have had a problem with me studying those things would have been met with a rather unpleasant stare back then. I felt no conviction studying those things whatsoever, as they helped formed my worldview, which is that the history of man is a study in the war between God and Satan for the souls of men.

As for entertainment, I do think that individual personalities have something to do with it as well, so I do not take as much of a hard line as maybe some others do. I just think it's healthy to make sure one has his guard up, nonetheless. Whenever I read too much of Aliester Crowley's works, it always had a way of messing with my head eventually.

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Great. The problem is whose truth? Me, @April_Rose , and a few others love Halloween but as can be seen in this thread people think their truth is better. We share things important to us and well it's not just the truth and even I can do that. No one should come in and act like they are holy and can dispense advice. That is what rubs me wrong here many (not you) try to correct you to them not the truth even though they might think it is. Like Halloween, Horror movies, and Harry Porter, they may not be everyone's jam but we like them and no one was asking for the advice about it being all spooky and satanic. Anyway sorry @April_Rose for taking your thread off topic

Two huge things wrong with what you're saying:
First: Truth is NOT subjective. There is no my truth or your truth especially concerning things spiritually. There is absolute truth and it doesn't change. You are posting what is postmodernism sneaking into Christianity.

Second: you say no one should dispense advice? It is scriptural to give advice the Bible is full of people dispensing advice.
 
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This verse applies to at least a couple of posters on here:

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge but fools despise wisdom and instruction.” ‭‭Proverbs‬ ‭1:7
 

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Whenever I read too much of Aliester Crowley's works, it always had a way of messing with my head eventually.

I think it would miss with my head to. :) I studied Taoism once, the philosophical one not the religious stuff which led me to a greater understanding of Christianity.
 
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Two huge things wrong with what you're saying:
First: Truth is NOT subjective. There is no my truth or your truth especially concerning things spiritually. There is absolute truth and it doesn't change. You are posting what is postmodernism sneaking into Christianity.

Your right and your truth frankly is not objective in the least. The objective truth comes through the Church and Holy Tradition

Second: you say no one should dispense advice? It is scriptural to give advice the Bible is full of people dispensing advice.

Never said that, when asked for fine but no one ask for your advice now did they.
 
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This verse applies to at least a couple of posters on here:

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge but fools despise wisdom and instruction.” ‭‭Proverbs‬ ‭1:7

Translation - how you think is how we all should think
 
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Your right and your truth frankly is not objective in the least. The objective truth comes through the Church and Holy Tradition

Objective truth comes from the word of the Lord

Never said that, when asked for fine but no one ask for your advice now did they.

Scripture doesn't say, instruct only when asked. Lol.
 
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