• Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

BarneyFife

Well-Known Member
Dec 19, 2019
8,978
6,219
113
Central PA
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
No, I can't stand for very long so don't cook. Next week I'm going in for a Angiogram and possible Angioplasty if there is a blockage. I hope there is, and this will take care of my problem getting out of breath any time I stand up for very long.
I'm so sorry to hear you're having trouble. I've had a heart condition since birth that forces me to take meds that keep me short of breath. I can barely exercise at all. :)
 

quietthinker

Well-Known Member
May 4, 2018
11,542
7,582
113
FNQ
Faith
Christian
Country
Australia
Why did Jesus never tell the rich young ruler to keep the Sabbath? He only told him to keep the moral laws toward each other.
Your attempts to excuse yourself from the Commandments CL are getting poorer....and I think you know it.
The Commandments Jesus sited were lifted from the decalogue....he didn't need to site all ten to determine the validity of the ones he didn't site.....that is also something you know, why? because you are not in the dumb category!
 

CharismaticLady

Well-Known Member
Jun 13, 2019
7,784
3,150
113
76
Tennessee
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Your attempts to excuse yourself from the Commandments CL are getting poorer....and I think you know it.
The Commandments Jesus sited were lifted from the decalogue....he didn't need to site all ten to determine the validity of the ones he didn't site.....that is also something you know, why? because you are not in the dumb category!

They may appear similar, because they are both fashioned after the eternal laws of God to Love God with all your heart, mind and body, and love your neighbor. But the Ten Commandments say nothing about the Messiah, nor the deeper kind of love it takes to not hate, rather than just not murder. And the biggest thing that sets the Old Covenant laws apart from the New Covenant laws, is the power of the Holy Spirit to keep them.
 

justbyfaith

Well-Known Member
Jun 28, 2018
21,740
4,114
113
51
San Pedro
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Your attempts to excuse yourself from the Commandments CL are getting poorer....and I think you know it.
The Commandments Jesus sited were lifted from the decalogue....he didn't need to site all ten to determine the validity of the ones he didn't site.....that is also something you know, why? because you are not in the dumb category!

I don't know...it seems to me that if Jesus wanted to include the sabbath as a requirement, He would have mentioned it when the rich young ruler asked Him which commandments he was supposed to keep.
 

BloodBought 1953

Well-Known Member
Jun 3, 2020
5,032
1,821
113
71
Portsmouth Ohio
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
When John gives these two commandments in 1 John 3:23, do you believe you are under those commandments?

Yes....but I fall way short of even those two simple Commands .....I still need Grace to get me Home....the Grace activated by my Faith in the Gospel.....I do not go to Hell for not “ believng “ enough or for not “ loving” enough......These two traits come naturally to those that REST in the Gospel Of Grace and it’s not something I worry about. For Trusting in the Finished Work Of The Cross and that ALONE-which I do-God has Promise to “ Save me to the Uttermost”...... it’s His Doing, not mine, and I Trust God to keep His Word—- that’s what Faith is. I ain’t got much to offer God...Nothing But my sins , to be exact, but I got “ That” . It’s enough.
 

CharismaticLady

Well-Known Member
Jun 13, 2019
7,784
3,150
113
76
Tennessee
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Your attempts to excuse yourself from the Commandments CL are getting poorer....and I think you know it.
The Commandments Jesus sited were lifted from the decalogue....he didn't need to site all ten to determine the validity of the ones he didn't site.....that is also something you know, why? because you are not in the dumb category!

Besides, by not hating, am I not keeping the commandment to not murder? But if you keep the commandment to not murder, you can still hate.
 

CharismaticLady

Well-Known Member
Jun 13, 2019
7,784
3,150
113
76
Tennessee
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Yes....but I fall way short of even those two simple Commands .....I still need Grace to get me Home....the Grace activated by my Faith in the Gospel.....I do not go to Hell for not “ believng “ enough or for not “ loving” enough......These two traits come naturally to those that REST in the Gospel Of Grace and it’s not something I worry about. For Trusting in the Finished Work Of The Cross and that ALONE-which I do-God has Promise to “ Save me to the Uttermost”...... it’s His Doing, not mine, and I Trust God to keep His Word—- that’s what Faith is. I ain’t got much to offer God...Nothing But my sins , to be exact, but I got “ That” . It’s enough.

But if you are cleansed of all your sins, you receive a divine nature that does not sin in the present and future. You are no longer a sinner, but a child of God. 1 John 3. Have you ever received the baptism of the Holy Spirit? After going to church all my life, I didn't receive the Spirit until I was 30 years old! It is not something you receive by faith. You know it.
 

quietthinker

Well-Known Member
May 4, 2018
11,542
7,582
113
FNQ
Faith
Christian
Country
Australia
Besides, by not hating, am I not keeping the commandment to not murder? But if you keep the commandment to not murder, you can still hate.
Excuses with zero weight! You don't need to convince me CL....you need to convince God.....and I doubt you will do that.
John 1:15....Everyone hating his brother is a murderer; and you know that any murderer does not have eternal life abiding in him.
 

justbyfaith

Well-Known Member
Jun 28, 2018
21,740
4,114
113
51
San Pedro
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Excuses with zero weight! You don't need to convince me CL....you need to convince God.....and I doubt you will do that.
John 1:15....Everyone hating his brother is a murderer; and you know that any murderer does not have eternal life abiding in him.
I think you referenced the wrong verse....the verse you referenced does not apply or make any sense.
 

BloodBought 1953

Well-Known Member
Jun 3, 2020
5,032
1,821
113
71
Portsmouth Ohio
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
But if you are cleansed of all your sins, you receive a divine nature that does not sin in the present and future. You are no longer a sinner, but a child of God. 1 John 3. Have you ever received the baptism of the Holy Spirit? After going to church all my life, I didn't receive the Spirit until I was 30 years old! It is not something you receive by faith. You know it.

I am “ a Child Of God” Because I Rest in the Gospel Of Grace plus Nothing. All I used to have was my Old Adamic Nature That sinned and loved doing it....Since Trusting Jesus ALONE to Save me, God put inside me an additional Spirit that can NEVER sin..... These two Spirits are at war with each other , similar to a White Dog and a Black Dog Inside Of us.......whichever Dog you feed the most will dominate.....be wise and feed the White Dog or be a Fool and feed the Black Dog.....God has given us the Freedom to chose and blesses us or chastises us accordingly .....
 

CharismaticLady

Well-Known Member
Jun 13, 2019
7,784
3,150
113
76
Tennessee
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Excuses with zero weight! You don't need to convince me CL....you need to convince God.....and I doubt you will do that.
John 1:15....Everyone hating his brother is a murderer; and you know that any murderer does not have eternal life abiding in him.

You just quoted the New Covenant. But the Old Covenant doesn't say that. In the Ten Commandment you can't murder, but you CAN hate. And you got the scripture wrong. It is 1 John 3:15, not John 1:15
 

CharismaticLady

Well-Known Member
Jun 13, 2019
7,784
3,150
113
76
Tennessee
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
I am “ a Child Of God” Because I Rest in the Gospel Of Grace plus Nothing. All I used to have was my Old Adamic Nature That sinned and loved doing it....Since Trusting Jesus ALONE to Save me, God put inside me an additional Spirit that can NEVER sin..... These two Spirits are at war with each other , similar to a White Dog and a Black Dog Inside Of us.......whichever Dog you feed the most will dominate.....be wise and feed the White Dog or be a Fool and feed the Black Dog.....God has given us the Freedom to chose and blesses us or chastises us accordingly .....

If you are a child of God, then say so. Stop calling yourself a sinner, unless you are one. But you can't be both.
 

BloodBought 1953

Well-Known Member
Jun 3, 2020
5,032
1,821
113
71
Portsmouth Ohio
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Says, Jesus. John 8:34-36


“ if we say we have no sin, we make God a Liar”...... the Holy Spirit , using John as His Mouthpiece...
God chastises His Children and if you don’t get chastised you are a bastard—- no child of His.This Chastisement is for His Spiritual Children.Does God “ Take His Children to the Wood Shed for NOT Sinning ? Get real....
Paul tells his followers if a fellow Believer is “ caught up” in some type of sin, correct that man who sinned with compassion—- YOU might be the NEXT one to get caught up in Sin.Tell me, what was Paul talking about ...HE never hesitated to call out sin for what was .....Sins committed by his Saved, Born Again followers....like me .... like you....
 

CharismaticLady

Well-Known Member
Jun 13, 2019
7,784
3,150
113
76
Tennessee
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
“ if we say we have no sin, we make God a Liar”...... the Holy Spirit , using John as His Mouthpiece...
God chastises His Children and if you don’t get chastised you are a bastard—- no child of His.This Chastisement is for His Spiritual Children.Does God “ Take His Children to the Wood Shed for NOT Sinning ? Get real....
Paul tells his followers if a fellow Believer is “ caught up” in some type of sin, correct that man who sinned with compassion—- YOU might be the NEXT one to get caught up in Sin.Tell me, what was Paul talking about ...HE never hesitated to call out sin for what was .....Sins committed by his Saved, Born Again followers....like me .... like you....

Those who still have sin, but say they don't is a liar. To be cleansed of sin, one must turn to Jesus and He cleanses you of ALL past sin. Then gives you the power to maintain being a child of God. You can't apply 1 John 1:8 to a Christian. That is before Christ cleanses us in the next verse.
 

BloodBought 1953

Well-Known Member
Jun 3, 2020
5,032
1,821
113
71
Portsmouth Ohio
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
In the New Covenant, but not in the Old. We are talking about the differences between the two covenants. Catch up! LOL

I am old and slow....lol.....BUT ...Murder and Hate “ WERE “ the same all along....it just took Jesus to point it out to people ....The difference between the two Covenants boiled down to only this—- The Old Covenant said “ DO” and the New Covenant said “ Done”......