Genealogy Of Christ

WalterandDebbie · Sep 20, 2020

Sunday 9-20-20 Tishri 2, 5781 1st. day of the weekly cycle, 92nd. Summer day

Genealogy Of Christ: Mathew One:1-25

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The Genealogy of Jesus

1The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

2Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and his brethren; 3And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom begat Aram; 4And Aram begat Aminadab; and Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson begat Salmon; 5And Salmon begat Booz of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed of Ruth; and Obed begat Jesse; 6And Jesse begat David the king; and David the king begat Solomon of her that had been the wife of Urias; 7And Solomon begat Roboam; and Roboam begat Abia; and Abia begat Asa;

8And Asa begat Josaphat; and Josaphat begat Joram; and Joram begat Ozias; 9And Ozias begat Joatham; and Joatham begat Achaz; and Achaz begat Ezekias; 10And Ezekias begat Manasses; and Manasses begat Amon; and Amon begat Josias; 11And Josias begat Jechonias and his brethren, about the time they were carried away to Babylon:

12And after they were brought to Babylon, Jechonias begat Salathiel; and Salathiel begat Zorobabel; 13And Zorobabel begat Abiud; and Abiud begat Eliakim; and Eliakim begat Azor; 14And Azor begat Sadoc; and Sadoc begat Achim; and Achim begat Eliud; 15And Eliud begat Eleazar; and Eleazar begat Matthan; and Matthan begat Jacob; 16And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

17So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.

Isaiah 7:10-16; Micah 5:1-6; Luke 2:1-7)

18Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. 19Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to put her away privily. 20But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.

21And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. 22Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, 23Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. 24Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife: 25And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

Jesus Birth and Childhood If interested

Matthew 2:1-23

Love always, Walter and Debbie

Nancy · Sep 20, 2020

firstthings1st. said:
Sunday 9-20-20 Tishri 2, 5781 1st. day of the weekly cycle, 92nd. Summer day
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Matthew 2:1-23

Love always, Walter and Debbie

Hi @firstthings1st.
There is a video that Helen sent me a couple years back by Chuck Missler. I find it fascinating. It has the gospel woven into the genealogy from Adam to Noah. He starts with Adam but...if you see that the Hebrew meaning for the word God is : The God"
I don't think he has tht part in this video. It is only 2 minutes long. And I used to totally ignore genealogies, ha!

WalterandDebbie · Sep 20, 2020

Nancy said:
Hi @firstthings1st.
There is a video that Helen sent me a couple years back by Chuck Missler. I find it fascinating. It has the gospel woven into the genealogy from Adam to Noah. He starts with Adam but...if you see that the Hebrew meaning for the word God is : The God"
I don't think he has tht part in this video. It is only 2 minutes long. And I used to totally ignore genealogies, ha!

Hi Nancy, and how are you all? I liked the first video, I have placed a link after the first chapter of Matthew of the last post Genealogy Of Christ,
just thought that you might be interested, thanks.

Jesus Birth and Childhood If interested

Love, Walter

Nancy · Sep 20, 2020

firstthings1st. said:
Hi Nancy, and how are you all? I liked the first video, I have placed a link after the first chapter of Matthew of the last post Genealogy Of Christ,
just thought that you might be interested, thanks.

Jesus Birth and Childhood If interested

Love, Walter

Thank you, I have put your site in my favorites to read when less distractions...I did scan it a bit, and it is chock full of history. Thanks!

101G · Sep 20, 2020

Addressing the OP, good post, I am very aware of this data, but may I add something else to you arsenal.
on your section, "Jesus’ Childhood (Luke 2:39-52)" when he was in the temple talking with the learned men. God by his prophet Isaiah provide us with some useful information on why our Lord as a young man was able to hold his own with them,
Isaiah 50:4 "The Lord GOD hath given me the tongue of the learned, that I should know how to speak a word in season to him that is weary: he wakeneth morning by morning, he wakeneth mine ear to hear as the learned."
Isaiah 50:5 "The Lord GOD hath opened mine ear, and I was not rebellious, neither turned away back."
Isaiah 50:6 "I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair: I hid not my face from shame and spitting."
Isaiah 50:7 "For the Lord GOD will help me; therefore shall I not be confounded: therefore have I set my face like a flint, and I know that I shall not be ashamed."
Isaiah 50:8 "He is near that justifieth me; who will contend with me? let us stand together: who is mine adversary? let him come near to me."
Isaiah 50:9 "Behold, the Lord GOD will help me; who is he that shall condemn me? lo, they all shall wax old as a garment; the moth shall eat them up."
Isaiah 50:10 "Who is among you that feareth the LORD, that obeyeth the voice of his servant, that walketh in darkness, and hath no light? let him trust in the name of the LORD, and stay upon his God."
Isaiah 50:11 "Behold, all ye that kindle a fire, that compass yourselves about with sparks: walk in the light of your fire, and in the sparks that ye have kindled. This shall ye have of mine hand; ye shall lie down in sorrow."

Just in these few verses hold a ton of information on the Lord "growing" not only in WISDOM, but in stature also.

hope I have added something to the conversation.

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Enoch111 · Sep 20, 2020

firstthings1st. said:
1The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

In the genealogy of Christ in Matthew, it was essential to show His descent from both Abraham and David. And in Luke 2 we see His descent from Adam. Christ is the eternal Son of God, but His human genealogy establishes His legal right to the throne of David as King/Messiah of Israel.

Adam--->Seth--->Noah--->Eber--->Abraham--->Isaac--->Jacob/Israel--->Judah--->David--->Solomon---> Christ.

Jacob prophesied about the royal line of Judah which would result in Messiah being a descendant of David: The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh [MESSIAH-CHRIST] come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be. (Gen 49:10)

Since Bethlehem was the city of David, Micah prophesied that Christ would be born in Bethlehem, but in fact He was the eternal Son of God "from everlasting":But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall He come forth unto me that is to be Ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting. (Micah 5:2)

Even though Mary was a descendant of Nathan, Joseph was a descendant of Solomon, and regarded as the legal human father of Jesus of Nazareth.

101G · Sep 20, 2020

Enoch111 said:
Christ is the eternal Son of God, but His human genealogy establishes His legal right to the throne of David as King/Messiah of Israel.

was this, "legal right", by blood or birthright?.

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Enoch111 · Sep 20, 2020

101G said:
was this, "legal right", by blood or birthright?.

That right was a birthright according to God's promise to David: [Peter said to the Jews] Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. (Acts 2:29-31)

Peter was referring to this promise, which includes both Solomon and Christ in 2 Samuel 7:12-14,16:

And when thy days [David] be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom [applicable to Solomon].

He shall build an house for my name [applicable to Solomon], and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever [applicable to Christ].

I will be his father, and he shall be my son.[applicable to Christ]
If he commit iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the children of men:[applicable to Solomon]...

And thine house and thy kingdom shall be established for ever before thee: thy throne shall be established for ever.[applicable to Christ]

Since Joseph (descended from Solomon) was simply the foster-father of Jesus, this was not a blood right.

101G · Sep 20, 2020

Enoch111 said:
Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.

now, this, Psalms 132:11 "The LORD hath sworn in truth unto David; he will not turn from it; Of the fruit of thy body will I set upon thy throne."
who is the "I" here in Psalms 132:11. we suggest you read Acts 2:29-31 again.

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101G · Sep 20, 2020

Enoch111 said:
He shall build an house for my name [applicable to Solomon], and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever [applicable to Christ].

well lets make it plain, "and I will stablish" (applicable to the Father), the throne of his kingdom for ever, (applicable to Christ)

the one who swore this to David is the Father the "LORD".

2 Samuel 7:11 "And as since the time that I commanded judges to be over my people Israel, and have caused thee to rest from all thine enemies. Also the LORD telleth thee that he will make thee an house." THIS IS THE FATHER? lets see..

2 Samuel 7:12 "And when thy days be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I (applicable to the Father). will set up thy seed (applicable to Christ), after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I (applicable to the Father), will establish his kingdom. (applicable to Christ) "

now this, Psalms 132:11 "The LORD, (applicable to the Father), hath sworn in truth unto David; he, (applicable to the Father), will not turn from it; Of the fruit of thy body will I, (applicable to the Father), set upon thy throne."

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Grailhunter · Sep 20, 2020

101G said:
was this, "legal right", by blood or birthright?.

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101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

Blood and birthright

101G · Sep 21, 2020

Grailhunter said:
Blood and birthright

GINOLJC, to all.
thanks for the reply, second supply scripture where as the Lord Jesus blood is of any Human genealogy establishing his Legal Right.

Book chapter and verse of his "HUMAN" by BLOOD genealogy. I'll be looking for your answer.

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101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

Grailhunter · Sep 21, 2020

101G said:
GINOLJC, to all.
thanks for the reply, second supply scripture where as the Lord Jesus blood is of any Human genealogy establishing his Legal Right.

Book chapter and verse of his "HUMAN" by BLOOD genealogy. I'll be looking for your answer.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

Bla bla to you also....
Scriptures are important but common sense and reality also applies.

101G · Sep 21, 2020

Grailhunter said:
Bla bla to you also....
Scriptures are important but common sense and reality also applies.

so we can take this as you have no scripture to support you statement.

so, once again, "supply scripture where as the Lord Jesus blood is of any Human genealogy establishing his Legal Right".

you sais, "but common sense and reality also applies". so supply the commonsense, Book, and the reality of the chapter and verse of his "HUMAN" by BLOOD genealogy. I'll be looking for your answer.

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101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

Grailhunter · Sep 21, 2020

101G said:
so we can take this as you have no scripture to support you statement.

so, once again, "supply scripture where as the Lord Jesus blood is of any Human genealogy establishing his Legal Right".

you sais, "but common sense and reality also applies". so supply the commonsense, Book, and the reality of the chapter and verse of his "HUMAN" by BLOOD genealogy. I'll be looking for your answer.

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101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

No scriptures! lol Nearly the whole Bible stands against you and anyone else that would call themselves "The Spiritual Saboteur"
You have already been given enough scriptures to pooh pooh on.

Oh ya...by blood...He was born...
Joseph was not his father....
No prophecy foretold of a step-son
His blood line to David was through His mother.
I knew that would completely go over your head.

101G · Sep 21, 2020

Grailhunter said:
No scriptures! lol Nearly the whole Bible stands against you and anyone else that would call themselves "The Spiritual Saboteur"
You have already been given enough scriptures to pooh pooh on.

Oh ya...by blood...He was born...
Joseph was not his father....
No prophecy foretold of a step-son
His blood line to David was through His mother.
I knew that would completely go over your head.

first thanks for the reply, second, you ERROR, because biologically speaking, he didn't get his bloodline through his mother either, for Each parent, in a natural human baby, contributes half of the child’s alleles which determine blood group and type but the child makes its own blood in its own body from its own bone marrow cells. and there was no human father nor mother contribution in the development of the Lord Jesus body, I hope that didn't go over your HEAD. the child in it's mother's or in Mary's case, surrogate mother, her womb, produce it own blood . BINGO. and another thing, Grailhunter, did you not read your bible where it said, A. Luke 1:35 "And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing, (thing, here means flesh), which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God".
do you know what "overshadow" means? guess not. it means, G1982 ἐπισκιάζω episkiazo (ep-ee-skee-ad'-zo) v.
1. to cast a shade upon
2. (by analogy) to envelop in a haze of brilliancy
3. (figuratively) to invest with preternatural influence

see the term, "preternatural influence", do you know what it means? again, guess not. it means, not in the natural way of conception between a man and a women. simply put the Lord Jesus Body did not come from any human... MAN OR WOMAN

well where did his body come from? answer, Hebrews 10:5 "Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:"

say what? "but a body hast thou prepared me". LOL, LOL, LOL, man oh man when will they ever learn. God, the LORD Jesus himself MADE THAT BODY. have you not READ? Psalms 40:6 "Sacrifice and offering thou didst not desire; mine ears hast thou opened: burnt offering and sin offering hast thou not required."Psalms 40:7 "Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me," Isaiah 7:14 "Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel." Isaiah 9:6 "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."

YES, GOD HIMSELF is coming in flesh. lets see it made clear, Matthew 1:23 "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us." BINGO...... oh slow of heart.

so that statement you made,

Grailhunter said:
Blood and birthright

you can drop the blood, as in human blood. but blood he did have, and don't you want to know.....

Another successful sabotage operation.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

Grailhunter · Sep 21, 2020

101G said:
first thanks for the reply, second, you ERROR, because biologically speaking, he didn't get his bloodline through his mother either, for Each parent, in a natural human baby, contributes half of the child’s alleles which determine blood group and type but the child makes its own blood in its own body from its own bone marrow cells. and there was no human father nor mother contribution in the development of the Lord Jesus body, I hope that didn't go over your HEAD. the child in it's mother's or in Mary's case, surrogate mother, her womb, produce it own blood . BINGO. and another thing, Grailhunter, did you not read your bible where it said, A. Luke 1:35 "And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing, (thing, here means flesh), which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God".
do you know what "overshadow" means? guess not. it means, G1982 ἐπισκιάζω episkiazo (ep-ee-skee-ad'-zo) v.
1. to cast a shade upon
2. (by analogy) to envelop in a haze of brilliancy
3. (figuratively) to invest with preternatural influence

see the term, "preternatural influence", do you know what it means? again, guess not. it means, not in the natural way of conception between a man and a women. simply put the Lord Jesus Body did not come from any human... MAN OR WOMAN

well where did his body come from? answer, Hebrews 10:5 "Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:" say what? "but a body hast thou prepared me". LOL, LOL, LOL, man oh man when will they ever learn. God, the LORD Jesus himself MADE THAT BODY. have you not READ? Psalms 40:6 "Sacrifice and offering thou didst not desire; mine ears hast thou opened: burnt offering and sin offering hast thou not required."Psalms 40:7 "Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me," Isaiah 7:14 "Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel." Isaiah 9:6 "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."

YES, GOD HIMSELF is coming in flesh. lets see it made clear, Matthew 1:23 "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us." BINGO...... oh slow of heart.

so that statement you made,

you can drop the blood, as in human blood. but blood he did have, and don't you want to know.....

Another successful sabotage operation.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

You are getting lost in your own details...and leaving the details of the Bible out....leaving the simplest of details of common sense out and the practicalities of reality. Or is it an attempt to deceive or have you been deceived?

The concept of bloodlines...every child that is born has a heretical bloodline. The concept that Yeshua was the begotten Son of God and that He had to be of the bloodline of King David is well defined. The fact that He was conceived is well defined. The fact that He was delivered by Miriam is well defined.

Then also I am suspicious of your motivations to prove this all wrong.....Spirit Saboteur....

101G · Sep 21, 2020

Grailhunter said:
You are getting lost in your own details...and leaving the details of the Bible out....leaving the simplest of details of common sense out and the practicalities of reality. Or is it an attempt to deceive or have you been deceived?

The concept of bloodlines...every child that is born has a heretical bloodline. The concept that Yeshua was the begotten Son of God and that He had to be of the bloodline of King David is well defined. The fact that He was conceived is well defined. The fact that He was delivered by Miriam is well defined.

Then also I am suspicious of your motivations to prove this all wrong.....Spirit Saboteur....

first thanks for the reply, second,
so we can again take this as you still don't have scripture to prove your point....

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101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

101G · Sep 21, 2020

Grailhunter said:
Then also I am suspicious of your motivations to prove this all wrong.....Spirit Saboteur....

hey, I'm glad you are usung the term "Spiritual Saboteur", like it, don't you.... lol, well I'm having a ball with it, kinda get your attention.... right.
see when soneone do something for no good, God turns it around and make it into something GOOD.

but why prove something wrong?

Grailhunter said:
Then also I am suspicious of your motivations to prove this all wrong.....Spirit Saboteur....

my motivations is scriptual based. 1 Thessalonians 5:21 "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good."
1 Thessalonians 5:22 "Abstain from all appearance of evil."

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101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

Grailhunter · Sep 21, 2020

101G said:
first thanks for the reply, second,
so we can again take this as you still don't have scripture to prove your point....

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

Battling scriptures....
I can, but it would be like proving the sun is hot.
Since I am having to take you to school, I will be assigning the homework.
So what do you think you got?

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