ChristisGod
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Pauls use of " Spiritual" pneumatikos in the Greek. It means controlled by the Spirit, the Spirit is the source who is God.That the flesh body would fall away to reveal the spirit body, what kind of idea is that??
When the flesh body DIES, or is CHANGED at the "last trump", that is when the flesh is cast off (Ecclesiastes 12:5-7; 1 Corinthians 15:44-54). The fall away idea in God's Word is about spiritual deception, not death and the resurrection.
Uh, really? Paul is declaring that very thing in 2 Corinthians 12, that that one saw into Paradise. Why won't you accept the Scripture as written? Apostle Paul is most likely speaking of himself, being modest, because he was once stoned and left for dead (Acts 14:19). That event coupled with his witness in 2 Corinthians 12 suggests he had a near death experience (NDE).
Acts 14:19
19 And there came thither certain Jews from Antioch and Iconium, who persuaded the people, and, having stoned Paul, drew him out of the city, supposing he had been dead.
KJV
Well, if that tradition of men helps you understand, fine. But that's not what God's Word reveals in 2 Corinthians 5, nor in John 3 by our Lord Jesus when He said that which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of The Spirit is spirit. Nor does it agree with the Ecclesiastes 12:5-7 Scripture which makes a clear distinction between the flesh going back to one place, and our spirit (with soul per Matt.10:28) going back to another (to God).
The spiritual man is a man with a body of flesh yet controlled by the Spirit ie God.
The spiritual food was the real manna which came from God
The spiritual drink was real water which miracously came out of the rock from God as its source
The spiritual rock was a real physical rock which provided the water which came from God
Now fast forward to 1 Cor 15 the spiritul body is one that comes from God as its source but it is still a human body that is incorruptible and immortal just like Jesus real human body is now , hence the BODILY RESURRECTION, ASCENSION and 2ND COMING of JESUS who is forever God Incarnate ( in the flesh). God manifest in the flesh as the bible teaches.
The spirit of antichrist rejects this truth and Paul says you are dead in your sins if you deny this truth in 1 Cor 15.
Here is strongs which definition on BODY ( SOMA) which refutes your false view.
Strong's Concordance
sóma: a body
Original Word: σῶμα, ατος, τό
Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter
Transliteration: sóma
Phonetic Spelling: (so'-mah)
Definition: a body
Usage: body, flesh;
HELPS Word-studies
4983 sṓma – the physical body.
STRONGS NT 4152: πνευματικός
πνευματικός, πνευματικῇ, πνευματικόν (πνεῦμα), spiritual (Vulg.spiritalis); in the N. T.
1. relating to the human spirit, or rational soul, as the part of man which is akin to God and serves as his instrument or organ, opposed to ἡ ψυχή (see πνεῦμα, 2): hence, τό πνευματικόν, that which possesses the nature of the rational soul, opposed to τό ψυχικόν, 1 Corinthians 15:46 (cf. Winer's Grammar, 592 (551)); σῶμα πνευματικόν, the body which is animated and controlled only by the rational soul and by means of which the rational life, of life of the πενυμα, is lived; opposed to σῶμα ψυχικόν, verse 44.
1 Corinthians 15:38-41
But God gives it a body as he has determined, and to each kind of seed he gives its own body. 39 Not all flesh is the same: People have one kind of flesh, animals have another, birds another and fish another. 40 There are also heavenly bodies and there are earthly bodies; but the splendor of the heavenly bodies is one kind, and the splendor of the earthly bodies is another. 41 The sun has one kind of splendor, the moon another and the stars another; and star differs from star in splendor.
A summary of the bodies mentioned above are all PHYSICAL in nature
1- people
2- seed
3-animals
4-birds
5-fish
6- heavenly - the sun, moon and stars
7- earthly- all inclusive 1-5
So as we can see BODY above are all PHYSICAL in nature.
case closed refuted once again with the truth @Davy
hope this helps !!!