Are all men redeemed?

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Jesus died for the sins of the whole world. He is the Head of all authority and power. So He has won back the ownership of His own creation. In that sense MANKIND has been redeemed. But that doesn't stop any of us from sinning and missing the mark.

But He was also resurrected to bring us life. The believer is redeemed to life in the Spirit by the grace of God which is by faith. He was resurrected for OUR justification as we enter into His life in the heavenly realm of the kingdom of God. Those who die with Him will experience the victory over sin and death by a life in the Spirit.

The TRUTH. The life in the realm of the Spirit.

The power of His eternal kind of life sets us free from the fallen Adamic nature that sins. In Him is NO sin. There is freedom IN Christ. The truth is in the eternal life...that sets us free from our human weakness. The truth sets us free. Jesus is the way of salvation...the truth and the LIFE.

If we follow Him in His death then we will experience the power of His resurrection. When we are dead to sin in Him...we are under grace...not the law. If we sin then we are still under the law. God does not permit sin or lawlessness. The wages of sin is still death.
 
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Jesus died for the sins of the whole world. He is the Head of all authority and power. So He has won back the ownership of His own creation. In that sense MANKIND has been redeemed. But that doesn't stop any of us from sinning and missing the mark.

But He was also resurrected to bring us life. The believer is redeemed to life in the Spirit by the grace of God which is by faith. He was resurrected for OUR justification as we enter into His life in the heavenly realm of the kingdom of God. Those who die with Him will experience the victory over sin and death by a life in the Spirit.

The TRUTH. The life in the realm of the Spirit.

The power of His eternal kind of life sets us free from the fallen Adamic nature that sins. In Him is NO sin. There is freedom IN Christ. The truth is in the eternal life...that sets us free from our human weakness. The truth sets us free. Jesus is the way of salvation...the truth and the LIFE.

If we follow Him in His death then we will experience the power of His resurrection. When we are dead to sin in Him...we are under grace...not the law. If we sin then we are still under the law. God does not permit sin or lawlessness. The wages of sin is still death.
will unbelievers be saved in the end, those who are not born again ?
 

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will unbelievers be saved in the end, those who are not born again ?


All men will be judged by their works. God will save whom He wills without consulting the religious systems set up by men.

Those that do what is right, love mercy, and fear God are accepted with God. The meek and the humble and they who don't judge others. If people don't judge others...they won't be judged themselves.
 

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All men will be judged by their works. God will save whom He wills without consulting the religious systems set up by men.

Those that do what is right, love mercy, and fear God are accepted with God. The meek and the humble and they who don't judge others. If people don't judge others...they won't be judged themselves.
That doesn't sound like an answer to the question I will rephrase it.

Will anyone end up in hell/lake of fire and suffer eternal torment/punishment ? yes or no

thanks !
 

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That doesn't sound like an answer to the question I will rephrase it.

Will anyone end up in hell/lake of fire and suffer eternal torment/punishment ? yes or no

thanks !


Those are two different outcomes....or destinies. The lake of fire kills the soul...it is the second death. (not the second torture). And being cast away into an eternal wandering in darkness is for the hypocrites. The first is for they who are unrighteous and the second for they that transgress against holiness.
 

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Those are two different outcomes....or destinies. The lake of fire kills the soul...it is the second death. (not the second torture). And being cast away into an eternal wandering in darkness is for the hypocrites. The first is for they who are unrighteous and the second for they that transgress against holiness.
ok thanks
 

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We are if ???????

Eph.2;
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For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

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Not of works, lest any man should boast.

So, belief in GOD and JESUS

And what JESUS did for us !
 

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Cos you confuse salvation with redemption?

Redemption, Justification, Sanctification, and Salvation!

Redemption: 100 percent the work of God, thru the life, death, resurrection, and ascension of Jesus Christ! All mankind are redeemed in Christ!
Galatians 3:13
Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law...

Justification: our acceptance of redemption thru faith and baptism! Become a disciple and member of Christ and His Church! Mk 16:16 He who believes and is baptized shall be saved.

Sanctification: the life of grace, prayer, virture, and good works, the just living by faith, and faith working thru love!
All done in Christ thru His grace! Jn 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

Salvation: a christian in the state if grace at the moment of death we enter into the salvation of the Lord! Mt 24:44-47 faithful servant! Jn 15:1-5 abide in me. Mt 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
 

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Here is a better and more provocative question: If God is pure unconditional love, how does He continue to love the damned in Hell, unless they can theoretically still repent, be transformed, and join the elect in Heaven? As evangelical writer C. S. Lewis famously put this issue: "The gates of Hell are locked from the inside."
 

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Here is a better and more provocative question: If God is pure unconditional love, how does He continue to love the damned in Hell, unless they can theoretically still repent, be transformed, and join the elect in Heaven? As evangelical writer C. S. Lewis famously put this issue: "The gates of Hell are locked from the inside."
Because punishment and justice is love. Spare the rod, spoil the child. What love is there in allowing a blasphemer, or worse, one who has impeded the way for others to be saved, to share communion with those who love and revere God?
A parent who does not discipline their children, does not love them. If the child refuses to acknowledge the parents authority and assumed righteousness, then, after all the patience and sufficient efforts to correct have been exhausted, then they must remain in perdition.
 

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No, hell will not be vacant.

One has nothing to do with the other

Redeemed does not mean salvation

Redemption, Justification, Sanctification, and Salvation!

Redemption: 100 percent the work of God, thru the life, death, resurrection, and ascension of Jesus Christ! All mankind are redeemed in Christ!
Galatians 3:13
Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law...

Justification: our acceptance of redemption thru faith and baptism! Become a disciple and member of Christ and His Church! Mk 16:16 He who believes and is baptized shall be saved.

Sanctification: the life of grace, prayer, virture, and good works, the just living by faith, and faith working thru love!
All done in Christ thru His grace! Jn 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

Salvation: a christian in the state if grace at the moment of death we enter into the salvation of the Lord! Mt 24:44-47 faithful servant! Jn 15:1-5 abide in me. Mt 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
 

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One has nothing to do with the other

Redeemed does not mean salvation

Redemption, Justification, Sanctification, and Salvation!

Redemption: 100 percent the work of God, thru the life, death, resurrection, and ascension of Jesus Christ! All mankind are redeemed in Christ!
Galatians 3:13
Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law...

Justification: our acceptance of redemption thru faith and baptism! Become a disciple and member of Christ and His Church! Mk 16:16 He who believes and is baptized shall be saved.

Sanctification: the life of grace, prayer, virture, and good works, the just living by faith, and faith working thru love!
All done in Christ thru His grace! Jn 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

Salvation: a christian in the state if grace at the moment of death we enter into the salvation of the Lord! Mt 24:44-47 faithful servant! Jn 15:1-5 abide in me. Mt 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
You're splitting hairs with words. You asked a 4 word sentence, and now you go off into some dissertation in an attempt to answer your OP. Your question was loaded, and you know it.
 

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John 3:26 "And they came unto John, and said unto him, Rabbi, he that was with thee beyond Jordan, to whom thou barest witness, behold, the same baptizeth, and all men come to him."

John 12:32 "And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me."

but, are all men drawn to him?.... John 6:44 "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day."
now the question is, "is the Father drawing all men unto his Son Jesus?" lest check the record, 2 Thessalonians 2:11 "And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:"
2 Thessalonians 2:12 "That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." now that right there gives us a good indication if "all" are drawn...... :D but lets push on....

for there is a separation at Judgment between sheeps and Goats. Matthew 25:33 "And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left." what happen to the goats? answer, Matthew 25:41 "Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:"

well I guess that answered the question if the Father draws "all" men unto the Lord Jesus, the Son.

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Because punishment and justice is love. Spare the rod, spoil the child. What love is there in allowing a blasphemer, or worse, one who has impeded the way for others to be saved, to share communion with those who love and revere God?
A parent who does not discipline their children, does not love them. If the child refuses to acknowledge the parents authority and assumed righteousness, then, after all the patience and sufficient efforts to correct have been exhausted, then they must remain in perdition.

A parent who disciplines a child does so to correct and reform the child's behavior so that the child can develop a commendable character and succeed in life. It is ludicrous for you to liken that to a a loving heavenly Father who consigns his child to eternal conscious torment with no postmortem chance to repent, be spiritually transformed, be constructively disciplined for a positive result. Educated young people recognize the sadistic absurdity of your concept of pure unconditional divine love and are understandably jumping out of the windows of churches to escape exposure to such a God.