The Apostle Paul taught reformed theology throughout the New Testament.
God cannot be reformed, divine revelation cannot be reformed the one true church founded by Christ on Peter is eternal! Matt 16:18 Lk 1:32-33
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The Apostle Paul taught reformed theology throughout the New Testament.
This is a complete version of the Catholic church defending what cannot be defended. The Catholic church brought this upon themselves by practicing unbiblical views.
Pope Leo X was a greedy man who used fear and intimidation to to obtain from the poor what little they had. Monstrous acts. If you think it's fine to defend this, then I would ask you why? The Bible knows nothing of this. Nor does it know anything about buying one's salvation.
You can't deal with the scripture so you divert. This is what Catholics do. Like their leadership, if they can't find the answer they want in the scriptures, they make things up. The Bible said Jesus had brothers. Nothing else matters.
I rarely respond to pm's. I am not ashamed to post my answers on the open forums. I belong to other forums and I know that pm's can be used to gossip about other posters, etc. I'm not accusing you of this because I don't think that you would engage in that.
I answered the so called reformers are not God! Not apostles! Christ reformed Israel and made a new covenant church that is eternal! Lk 1:32-33
The genesis verse does not claim Mary is sinless. And what does song of Solomon have to do with Mary?
All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. You would put Mary on the same level as Yawhah. That's blasphemy.
"He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end." Luke 1:32-33
No, they are not God, nor are you, nor am I. We do live for God by faith. You say that the ones called reformers were "not apostles", but do you know that or only believe it? Stand for your faith, but as our friend @BreadOfLife might say, don't state as fact something you only believe with no evidence. We are all ignorant of all the facts except for God Himself. Therefore we should proceed with caution trusting in God alone.
"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." Heb 11:1
Who were the successors of the Israelites? Who are the Israelites today? Who are the brothers, mothers and sisters of Jesus?And Peter, the apostles, and their successors!
Who are his sheep?Lk 10:16 He who hears you hears me...
Amen! So then we should careful about saying someone we do not know is a devil or an unbeliever or definitely not an apostle, right? ...Unless we have had a personal revelation from God about that person?John 13:20
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.
Poor Mary-
the dastardly things Catholic men have invented about her...and the creepy statues.
Who were the successors of the Israelites? Who are the Israelites today? Who are the brothers, mothers and sisters of Jesus?
"But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?
And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother." Matt 12:48-50
Who are his sheep?
"To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.
And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers." John 10:3-5
"My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:" John 10:27
"If any man have ears to hear, let him hear." Mark 4:23
Amen! So then we should careful about saying someone we do not know is a devil or an unbeliever or definitely not an apostle, right? ...Unless we have had a personal revelation from God about that person?
Is the the apostle the one sent by God to men? What of the other four ministers listed in Eph 4:11 as being given by God? Were they not sent? What of the angels, the messengers, both heavenly and earthly sent by God? Were not messengers sent?Apostle means one who is sent! Christ was sent by the Father, Christ sent the apostles, the apostles only have authority to send more apostles, there are no self-appointed apostles Jn 20:21-22
Is the the apostle the one sent by God to men? What of the other four ministers listed in Eph 4:11 as being given by God? Were they not sent? What of the angels, the messengers, both heavenly and earthly sent by God? Were not messengers sent?
I don't agree that only apostles have authority to send more apostles. God is the one who sends whoever He chooses to send and He may or may not use an existing apostle as a vehicle to do that.
I agree that there are no self-appointed apostles. I don't know why you even mentioned that.
Without having at this moment read every verse to which you show as sources, I presume that you find support in them for your beliefs or the beliefs of your church. So do I find support in many scriptures for what I believe, or if I did not, I hope that I would change. You have not however proved anything and you still don't really discuss differences. That is fine. You are not alone in doing that. If you really would like to discuss something, let me know.act 1:26
Jn 20:21-22 as the father sent me I send you!
Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 16:13
Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20
Without having at this moment read every verse to which you show as sources, I presume that you find support in them for your beliefs or the beliefs of your church. So do I find support in many scriptures for what I believe, or if I did not, I hope that I would change. You have not however proved anything and you still don't really discuss differences. That is fine. You are not alone in doing that. If you really would like to discuss something, let me know.
it not my church or your church no man has authority to start a church, the one true church Jn 10:16 was a founded by Christ Matt 16:18 on Peter, the apostles, Matt 18:18 and their successors!
Who is today sitting in Moses' seat? Who is a Levite or a son of Aaron among us? Who even is among the natural descendants of Jacob/Israel? Who led Israel after the death of Joshua and the deaths of all the elders who remembered what God had done for them in Egypt and in the wilderness?Why does Jesus say the successors of Moses matt 23 are to be obeyed?
I agree that there really is only one Church with Jesus as the Head. We likely will disagree on what that Church is.
Who is today sitting in Moses' seat? Who is a Levite or a son of Aaron among us? Who even is among the natural descendants of Jacob/Israel? Who led Israel after the death of Joshua and the deaths of all the elders who remembered what God had done for them in Egypt and in the wilderness?
"In those days there was no king in Israel: every man did that which was right in his own eyes." Judges 21:25
And for many, even for most, who claim to be followers of Christ, today, is it not the same?
I gave you a long post (#312) showing that they were not Mary's children. You haven't replied.
If you want me to reply, then show the biblical (not speculative Catholic thought) verses that prove otherwise. I did read it. Right off the bat, you posted a sentence that has zero to do with the Bible says.
The rest of your post, is just more of the same. The Bible teaches that Jesus had brothers. Anything you say to the contrary that, is not biblical and therefore rank speculation.
If you want me to reply, then show the biblical (not speculative Catholic thought) verses that prove otherwise. I did read it. Right off the bat, you posted a sentence that has zero to do with the Bible says.
The rest of your post, is just more of the same. The Bible teaches that Jesus had brothers. Anything you say to the contrary that, is not biblical and therefore rank speculation.