China Rising: the Dragon Awakens!

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Dragon?

Rapture and End Times said:

"So the four angels who were prepared for the hour, day, month, and year were released to kill a third of the human race. The number of mounted troops was 200 million; I heard their number." What drives China to destroy billions? China Rising: the Dragon Awakens!

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Read Revelation 9:14-19 and see that the 200m are not human troops or have anything to do with China.

Rapture and End Times said:

"So the four angels who were prepared for the hour, day, month, and year were released to kill a third of the human race. The number of mounted troops was 200 million; I heard their number." What drives China to destroy billions? China Rising: the Dragon Awakens!

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Not China.

That's about the locust army of the Book of Joel. Not a literal military army.

That's a 5th - 6th Trumpet, 1st & 2nd Woe period event, not the rapture, not Armageddon.

That is a tribulation time event, a time of world peace. The locusts represent the world controllers under the coming Antichrist for the tribulation period, a time just prior to Christ's 2nd coming to gather His Church.

There is no such thing as a Pre-trib Rapture written of in God's Word.

2 Chr. 34:19 said:

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Dragon?

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The Dragon was the imperial symbol of China when it was still ruled by emperors and the use of its image was restricted to the emperor and royal family. In China the Dragon was revered for its wisdom and power, and its domain was heaven.

2 Chr. 34:19 said:

Wales uk too

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I know that many members of the English royalty were members of the order of the Dragon with the king often being the first member, but I know little about the order other than it was Masonic or associated with Free Masonry at some point in history.
We also have a record of the eastern European ruler called Vlad the impaler, or Vlad Dracul who was the historical character that the "Dracula" vampire stories were based upon. He fought against the Ottoman Turkish invasion and treated prisoners with severe brutality, impaling them on stakes and executing them in the cruelest fashion. His name "Dracul" means Dragon and I'm pretty sure it was one he took for himself as a military leader.

2 Chr. 34:19 said:

... Dragon? ...

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China has TWO identifiers. The Government is the Dragon, but the Military is the Tiger. Consider the WWII American Volunteer Group (AVG) called the "Flying Tigers".

In Dan. 7 exotic animals were brought up from Africa to astound and amuse the audiences. And ONE of these creatures were Circularly marked cats, -- "Leopards". But because there was no trade route to the East were there were no Vertically marked cats , -- "Tigers". Then when Daniel saw a Vertically marked cat in his visions, he ONLY KNEW the NAME of the Circularly marked cat, and named the Vertically marked cat to the Nearest Depiction -- a "Leopard".

So to make sure his audience could CONFIRM his historical limitations, he continued by identifying that this "Leopard" (TIGER) had FOUR Heads. And where our U.S. Government has Three Branches, -- China has FOUR Branches of Government. And the FOUR Wings contrast Mao's destructive "Great Proletarian Leap" (1968 Cultural Revolution); with then Premier Chou En-lai's 1975 FOUR Modernizations: Agriculture, Science & Technology, Industry, & Military. -- Of course we can now see that China is a manufacturing Superpower almost equal to the U.S.


So China's NOT a "Dragon", it's a "TIGER" which will have some 20M men under arms, with some 180M men in support -- a 1:10 ratio is a common military infrastructure aspect.

Bobby Jo

michaelvpardo said:

I know that many members of the English royalty were members of the order of the Dragon with the king often being the first member, but I know little about the order other than it was Masonic or associated with Free Masonry at some point in history.
We also have a record of the eastern European ruler called Vlad the impaler, or Vlad Dracul who was the historical character that the "Dracula" vampire stories were based upon. He fought against the Ottoman Turkish invasion and treated prisoners with severe brutality, impaling them on stakes and executing them in the cruelest fashion. His name "Dracul" means Dragon and I'm pretty sure it was one he took for himself as a military leader.

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@michaelvpardo The red dragon is on the flag of Wales, but it's often viewed as purely mythological. In the West of England, the mythological wyvern fulfills a comparable role in legend to the red dragon of nearby Wales.

farouk said:

@michaelvpardo The red dragon is on the flag of Wales, but it's often viewed as purely mythological. In the West of England, the mythological wyvern fulfills a comparable role in legend to the red dragon of nearby Wales.

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Everything spiritual, including Christian beliefs are viewed as purely mythological by a large part of the population. Ancient Chinese writings claim that one of the early emperors actually possessed a few dragons and paraded them on occasion through the forbidden city. They could've been Komodo dragons which do get fairly large. They could've been tall tales because Chinese history is ridden with wild fantasy and mythical expansions of historical figures. Or, there may have been some truth to it. Legends claim that St. George killed a dragon terrorising the country side. Who knows? I've recently heard a claim that dinosaur fossils have been found with actual bone marrow remaining in them and I don't believe it's possible for soft tissue to survive oxidation and decay for hundreds of millions of years, so maybe the bible is actually true (I am inclined to believe it is entirely true despite my education in the biological sciences which included some paleontology in my Adaption and Evolution class as well as in comparative anatomy and animal physiology.)

michaelvpardo said:

... I am inclined to believe it is entirely true despite my education in the biological sciences which included some paleontology in my Adaption and Evolution class as well as in comparative anatomy and animal physiology. ...

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If one considered the Cambodian Temple with carvings around the entrance which includes a Stegosaurus; or the Ica Empire (-- not Inca --) with "Burial Stones" showing men riding Triceratops and Brontosaurs "war horses"; and the Chinese Calendar showing creatures which existed when the Calendar was created; -- one should conclude from the evidence that these creatures bones are found in the Noah's Flood side eddy pool collections with different bodies from the different heads because the heads are the first to go during a clastic flow battering and thus the random accumulation.

And given the totality of the evidence, we can substantiate the Biblical account of History, and the Biblical account of LIFE!
Bobby Jo

michaelvpardo said:

The Dragon was the imperial symbol of China when it was still ruled by emperors and the use of its image was restricted to the emperor and royal family. In China the Dragon was revered for its wisdom and power, and its domain was heaven.

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Doesn't matter, still not what the Biblical "dragon" symbol of Revelation represents, which is easy to know, because of this...

Rev 12:7-9
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
KJV

Per God's Word, "the dragon" is just another title for Satan, the devil, himself.

The OP ought to apply for a job at the New York Times, etc. They like creating fake news based on sensationalism. It helps sell their newspapers. The army of Rev.9 is not a literal military army.

Davy said:

Per God's Word, "the dragon" is just another title for Satan, the devil, himself.

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I guess you don't believe in angelic territorial dominions?
"They provoked Him to jealousy with foreign gods; With abominations they provoked Him to anger. They sacrificed to demons, not to God, To gods they did not know, To new gods, new arrivals
That your fathers did not fear." Deuteronomy 32:16-17

michaelvpardo said:

I guess you don't believe in angelic territorial dominions?
"They provoked Him to jealousy with foreign gods; With abominations they provoked Him to anger. They sacrificed to demons, not to God, To gods they did not know, To new gods, new arrivals
That your fathers did not fear." Deuteronomy 32:16-17

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No, there's no such thing as other 'gods'.

Isa 44:8
8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even My witnesses. Is there a God beside Me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.
KJV


The Deuteronomy 32:16-17 Scripture is about fake gods that are no gods. The word "abominations" is often used to point to the idea of idols (i.e., man-made images of wood, metal, or stone, etc.).

The minute you begin to believe that other gods actually exist, that's when you are likely to fall to the same dangers of abomination idols that old Israel fell away to.

So don't be superstitious, use common sense.

Davy said:

No, there's no such thing as other 'gods'.

So don't be superstitious, use common sense.

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Sounds good to me, wish it were true. Pretty sure that there is nothing common about me so why would common sense be different?

michaelvpardo said:

Sounds good to me, wish it were true. Pretty sure that there is nothing common about me so why would common sense be different?

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Thinking there can be more than one God period, denies common sense, and not only denying what God's Word says as written...

Isa 44:8
8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even My witnesses. Is there a God beside Me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.
KJV

pompadour said:

China, referred to as the King of the east. Has claimed to have a 200 mil man army. Mathematically they could put that together. China is a significant player in the Tribulation.
Pomp.

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EXACTLY CORRECT:


So to be clear, the U.K./U.S. is Geographically further SOUTH; and Russia is Geographically further NORTH; and of course China is EAST!


With Best Regards,
Bobby Jo

Davy said:

Thinking there can be more than one God period, denies common sense, and not only denying what God's Word says as written...

Isa 44:8
8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even My witnesses. Is there a God beside Me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.
KJV

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Try reading the scripture (at least once) and slowly, most versions use a capital G when referring to the God and creator of all things, a "small g" when referring to gods created by Him or by the imaginations of man.
34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods” ’? 35 If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken), 36 do you say of Him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’? John 10:34-36
5 For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many gods and many lords), 6 yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live. 1 Corinthians 8:5-6
16 They provoked Him to jealousy with foreign gods; With abominations they provoked Him to anger. 17 They sacrificed to demons, not to God, To gods they did not know, To new gods, new arrivals That your fathers did not fear. 18 Of the Rock who begot you, you are unmindful, And have forgotten the God who fathered you. Deuteronomy 32:16-18
There is only one God and creator, but the world is a more complicated place than you've considered. In scripture, sometimes a star is just a star, sometimes it isn't. What is the purpose of the angelic host?
Why do we have this verse?
For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. Ephesians 6:12
Use spiritual sense, if you have it.

michaelvpardo said:

Try reading the scripture (at least once) and slowly, most versions use a capital G when referring to the God and creator of all things, a "small g" when referring to gods created by Him or by the imaginations of man.
34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods” ’? 35 If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken), 36 do you say of Him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’? John 10:34-36
5 For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many gods and many lords), 6 yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live. 1 Corinthians 8:5-6
16 They provoked Him to jealousy with foreign gods; With abominations they provoked Him to anger. 17 They sacrificed to demons, not to God, To gods they did not know, To new gods, new arrivals That your fathers did not fear. 18 Of the Rock who begot you, you are unmindful, And have forgotten the God who fathered you. Deuteronomy 32:16-18
There is only one God and creator, but the world is a more complicated place than you've considered. In scripture, sometimes a star is just a star, sometimes it isn't. What is the purpose of the angelic host?
Why do we have this verse?
For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. Ephesians 6:12
Use spiritual sense, if you have it.

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You are referring to 'translations'. Hebrew word like elohiym (which is plural of elowahh, the Deity) used in places like Genesis 3:5 translated as "gods" really means angelic beings, not deities on par with our Heavenly Father. The word is even used of the idea of man-made idols per Scripture like in Genesis 35 with "strange gods".

So when you try to infer God's Word proves there are other literal 'gods' (deities) that exist, you show you are relying on a translation more than looking deeper into the manuscripts of the original language meaning.

The verse in the Psalms where Jesus quoted "Ye are gods" further explains His meaning being about the state of the angels as the children of God:

Ps 82:6
6 I have said, 'Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.'
KJV

Thus there are no other little deities like The Deity (GOD Himself). The "sons of God", which is what the angels were called prior to Christ being born in the flesh, is what those in Christ Jesus today are called, as it actually refers to the future... state of Salvation "as the angels"...

Matt 22:30
30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
KJV

Davy said:

You are referring to 'translations'. Hebrew word like elohiym (which is plural of elowahh, the Deity) used in places like Genesis 3:5 translated as "gods" really means angelic beings, not deities on par with our Heavenly Father. The word is even used of the idea of man-made idols per Scripture like in Genesis 35 with "strange gods".

So when you try to infer God's Word proves there are other literal 'gods' (deities) that exist, you show you are relying on a translation more than looking deeper into the manuscripts of the original language meaning.

The verse in the Psalms where Jesus quoted "Ye are gods" further explains His meaning being about the state of the angels as the children of God:

Ps 82:6
6 I have said, 'Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.'
KJV

Thus there are no other little deities like The Deity (GOD Himself). The "sons of God", which is what the angels were called prior to Christ being born in the flesh, is what those in Christ Jesus today are called, as it actually refers to the future... state of Salvation "as the angels"...

Matt 22:30
30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
KJV

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Thanks for making my point.