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CharismaticLady

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I always considered that sin was on the outside and iniquity on the inside.

That is exactly right, and the difference between the outside commandments of the Ten Commandments could not make anyone righteous, but the New Covenant of the Spirit that goes to the very core of sin, our nature, has been taken away, and filled with the Spirit of God.
 

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CL, CL, CL, when you're born again, do you know instantly everything as to how to walk with God? no, see as with a natural baby, it must crawl before it walk, understand now?.

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Philippians 3:16 it is a willingness to live according to what you know. This Spirit lives in our conscience, and as long as you do nothing against your conscience, you are pleasing in His sight. 1 John 3:21-24.
 
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@CharismaticLady,

It is a faithful and trustworthy saying (that we all ought to adopt to ourrselves) that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief (1 Timothy 1:15).

Do you adopt this saying to your own life?

If not, why not?
 

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God is not going to exclude those who think according to western thought patterns from His kingdom over the way that they think.

He will if they are apathetic towards living holy lives because they believe their ticket to heaven has no clauses. Revelation 22:11.
 

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@CharismaticLady,

It is a faithful and trustworthy saying (that we all ought to adopt to ourrselves) that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief (1 Timothy 1:15).

Do you adopt this saying to your own life?

If not, why not?

Read above where he says he was chief and you will see that Jesus saved him from that state. He was no longer a sinner. And yes, I too was a terrible sinner before being born again and filled with the power of God.
 
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He will if they are apathetic towards living holy lives because they believe their ticket to heaven has no clauses. Revelation 22:11.
In my own theology, I believe that, even though 1 John 1:8 dictates that I have indwelling sin, that this is no excuse to commit sins in my life; because indwelling sin can be rendered dead (Romans 6:6, Galatians 5:24, Romans 7:8) and therefore inept so that it has no more dominion over me (Romans 6:14).

So then, 1 John 1:8 does not prevent me from living a holy life in my theology; even though I think about it from a western point of view / thought pattern.
 
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Read above where he says he was chief and you will see that Jesus saved him from that state. He was no longer a sinner. And yes, I too was a terrible sinner before being born again and filled with the power of God.
He says "I am chief"...present tense.
 

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Philippians 3:16 it is a willingness to live according to what you know. This Spirit lives in our conscience, and as long as you do nothing against your conscience, you are pleasing in His sight. 1 John 3:21-24.
ok CL, did you know that christian, the save was to confess their sins? did you know to do that?? as you said, "it is a willingness to live according to what you know". as the apostle Peter said, "why put that yoke upon other when we ourselves haven keep it". understand now CL, just as I have been saying. do you know the perfect "WILL" of GOD? ... I guess not. see as I have said everyone level of Faith is not the same, we ... "LEARN"... and we GROW in christ Jesus, who is the author and finisher of our FAITH. for the Just must live by FAITH.

but look if you cannot understand, I'll leave it alone. and it's getting late for me anyways. so good night, sleep on it, ok.

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In my own theology, I believe that, even though 1 John 1:8 dictates that I have indwelling sin, that this is no excuse to commit sins in my life; because indwelling sin can be rendered dead (Romans 6:6, Galatians 5:24, Romans 7:8) and therefore inept so that it has no more dominion over me (Romans 6:14).

So then, 1 John 1:8 does not prevent me from living a holy life in my theology; even though I think about it from a western point of view / thought pattern.

If you had indwelling sin, you would still be struggling with sin. Are you? If not, you have no idea the power of the blood of Jesus has. You need to give credit to Christ for freeing you from indwelling sin. That is a false doctrine.
 

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ok CL, did you know that christian, the save was to confess their sins? did you know to do that?? as you said, "it is a willingness to live according to what you know". as the apostle Peter said, "why put that yoke upon other when we ourselves haven keep it". understand now CL, just as I have been saying. do you know the perfect "WILL" of GOD? ... I guess not. see as I have said everyone level of Faith is not the same, we ... "LEARN"... and we GROW in christ Jesus, who is the author and finisher of our FAITH. for the Just must live by FAITH.

but look if you cannot understand, I'll leave it alone. and it's getting late for me anyways. so good night, sleep on it, ok.

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101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

We need to repent ONCE to be born again, and are given the power to always live up to the knowledge you have. Once you learn more, you live up to that. Again, when you learn more, you live up to that. Just walk in the Spirit obeying your conscience where He teaches us. Learn from your elders. LOL!

As far as knowing His will, I have been hearing His will for 43 years, so yes, I know His will. And this is why 100% of my prayers are answered. 1 John 5:14-15
 

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Good night all. May you realize WHO YOU ARE IN CHRIST. You are no longer a sinner, but a child of God. Jesus was the firstborn among many brethren (and sisters). Romans 8:29-30.

Become glorified by 2 Peter 1:5-7.
 

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You do realize that when you came to Christ your PAST sins were taken away. You have a clean slate to no longer get dirty with sin. 2 Peter 1:9 only our old sins from our pre-Christ days were cleansed away, (not covered). Then we are given the divine power of grace to no longer sin in the present, nor in the future. 2 Peter 1:2-4

Read that carefully so you can stop twisting my words into nonsense.
Divine power, yet so many christians take years to realize they are no longer condemned, but you will sit there and condemn them. Sin is not a problem with Jesus as you said your self, how many times is that now,

You do realize that when you came to Christ your PAST sins were taken away.

Oh but now you changed it to past sins, so Christ never finished the works, now you have too, no longer about Him. Ill add a little story. Not that you would believe it. Posted it few times here. Noting this is more for the babes.

A short Story

A man is taken and put into a room. This man knows nothing about Jesus, the bible or religion. He is then told that some Christians will come and talk to him, each having 5 minutes.

And so the first one enters the room, a JW and starts talking, telling this man about his church, his religion and about salvation. And then so it was, that an AOG , a Catholic, a protestant, a morman and many others came and spoke to this man.

Then Jesus entered the room, and the man said,” Oh, I guess you want me to join your church too ?.

Jesus smiled and asked him, “ what did they tell you.

Oh he said, one claimed there was no salvation outside the church, another claimed that only 144000 where going to make it, one told me how to be a good Christian, another said baptism was required, but there was little that they agreed on. But there was one thing they mostly agreed on and that was, that their church was the right one.

Then Jesus asked him,” and what about Jesus”?.

Oh Him, well I’m not so sure, they tell me He died for all my sins, then they tell me I must go to a priest to have my sins forgiven, they tell me I must repeat some words after them to receive Jesus, by the time they where finished, I was confused and this Jesus seems to be a hard taskmaster.

Oh! Jesus exclaimed., and do you know who I am ?

No! he replied.

I am Him, Jesus, the one they spoke of.

Oh, the man replied, I didn’t recognize you, you don’t look or sound anything like what they said of you., but how can I be saved.

Jesus replied ,do you believe that I died for all your sins and that salvation is through me?.

The man thought for a minute, Yes he replied.

Then, Jesus replied, your sins are forgiven and your salvation is at hand.

But, the man said, what must I do to earn my salvation ?.

Nothing, Jesus replied, just have faith and believe.

What about tomorrow,? Will I see you?

I will always be with, replied Jesus.

And If I sin again?

Then just ask me for forgiveness and believe and it will be so.

That is just to good to be true.

It is, replied Jesus, but it is hard for the flesh to accept.

The man stood up, I must go, will I see you again?

Just say my name and I will be there in front of you ,whether you see me or not I am with you.

And so the man left, happy in the knowledge that his salvation was in Jesus, and filled with joy because he was set free from his bonds.
 
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He will if they are apathetic towards living holy lives because they believe their ticket to heaven has no clauses. Revelation 22:11.
Only one, beleieve, you see you by your own understanding, you have exclude 99.99999999999% of the worlds population, God didnt start this to not finish it, and Jesus never died for the righteous, they dont need Him HE said so Himself.
 

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So after we confess our sin and we are cleansed of all sin, and we sin again, we don't have to confess it, we can just rest assured that our past, present and future sins are forgiven, even murder?
Jesus and John said if you hate you are guilty of murder. And John takes it one step further saying if you don't show love towards a brother its also hate which equals murder.
 

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If you had indwelling sin, you would still be struggling with sin. Are you? If not, you have no idea the power of the blood of Jesus has. You need to give credit to Christ for freeing you from indwelling sin. That is a false doctrine.

My flesh rises up on me about once every two weeks; and I am ashamed to say that I have given in to it on many occasions.

Indwelling sin is not a false doctrine, it is biblical (1 John 1:8, Romans 7:18, 1 Timothy 1:15).

The reality is that if we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.

Do you interpret that differently when I say it than when it is written by the apostle John?

We all have indwelling sin; but that element of sin can be rendered dead (Romans 6:6, Galatians 5:24, Romans 7:8) so that it has no authority over my behaviour; so that it no longer has dominion over me (Romans 6:14).

When I fall, I get back up again (Proverbs 24:16).

I have basic victory over sin in my life but there are occasions when I do falter, fail, or faint; and when I do sin, I believe that my sin is indeed covered by Christ's blood. Your contention that I am not forgiven when I sin is unfounded in holy scripture. Jesus died for me and I am forgiven of past, present, and future sin.

I am not under the law (Romans 6:14) am dead to the law (Romans 7:4, Galatians 2:19) and am delivered from the law (Romans 7:6).

What this means is that the law no longer condemns me, because I am forgiven of all of my sins so that the law does not apply to my life to call me a sinner any more, even when I do sin.

While I am also governed by the law (Hebrews 8:8-10, Hebrews 10:16, Romans 8:7, Romans 8:4, 1 John 5:3, 2 John 1:6, Romans 5:5); or rather, I am governed by the love of Christ which is the fulfilling of the righteousness of the law within me.

If I blow it, that only means that I am ungodly; and therefore I am the perfect candidate for Christ to call me righteous (Romans 4:5).

Now that I have the unalterable identity of being declared righteous, the Lord's exhortation to me is to go and live like my new identity.
 
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LET is an act of the will. see CL, the fight is in your head, where that old body, "MIND", or the old man, the seat of consciousness that cater to evil, use to do it's bidding... and the the body of flesh carried out its demands.

that' the difference between "sin", and "iniquity". sin is abstract, you cannot see it... a thought. but the manifestation is it works.

example, if a man look upon a woman in "LUST", he have already sinned. you cannot see it, but when one acts on it, then the sin is revealed. other words, if a man LUST after a woman, the thought it's spiritual, and cannot see it, but when they get in bed, then that unseen thought is manifested, in the works of the flesh, that's the iniquity. understand, the woks of the flesh manifest the sin.

“that' the difference between "sin", and "iniquity". sin is abstract, you cannot see it... a thought. but the manifestation is it works.” “then that unseen thought is manifested, in the works of the flesh,”

Couldn’t the same be said of the ‘mind of Christ’ the manifestation of the unseen, is the working of the Spirit Of God? 2 Corinthians 4:10-11 Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body. [11] For we which live are alway delivered unto death for Jesus' sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh. So then death worketh in us, but life in you.

1 John 3:8-11 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. [9] Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. [10] In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. [11] For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.


LET is an act of the will.

Let is an act of will.
Whose Will? Genesis 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
 

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That is not a valid argument against what she is saying because of Matthew 7:13-14.
Actually it is that narrow path not many will or could do, it takes faith, that is not about salvation that is about being a disciple, you know many called few chosen, that bit about hating all to follow Him, God never started this to destroy all mankind, He knew what was going to happen, why do you think Jesus was crucified before the foundation of the world. She is setting up men to fail, by "her" standard.