Breaking News: Trump’s Symptoms Described as ‘Very Concerning’

Seven of Nine said:

I seriously doubt that he was thinking about much else than getting revenge against the Democrats. And if there's a backlash of any kind due to his decision, then he'll turn it around and blame the Democrats. He won't take personal responsibility for the outcome or the potential fallout.

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He may have gotten outfoxed then. If anything, I wouldn't put it past Pelosi to be tough in negotiations to see if she could wear him down and then blame him for backing out of the negotiations. I think she may be better at "the art of the deal" than he is. Trump is used to using lawsuits and the threat of lawsuits when he makes or breaks deals. He's used to dealing with people poorer than he is who can't afford lawsuits; and he's used to taking on one person at a time. He's not shown me he's very good at multi-lateral negotiations or at political ones. It was weird to me that McConnell wasn't involved in the negotiations. Why was it Pelosi and Mnuchin? I'm thinking maybe McConnell gave up a while ago and decided to push through anything the President wanted. He blustered that there wouldn't be a deal without immunity from lawsuits for employers if employees got Covid. That didn't go anywhere; and the next I know, it's Pelosi and Mnuchin?

You're right -- he'll blame the Democrats -- but will that work for him? I doubt it. A saner approach would be to have allowed the House and Senate thrash things out -- and then sign whatever they agreed to. A President often can get what he asks for by telling Congress what a bill must have and must not have for him to sign it.

lforrest said:

I though it a very considerate gesture to those showing him support outside the hospital. It also reassured the country that he is well enough to at least do something.

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There we’re many supporters outside the hospital. Those interviewed conveyed their appreciation.

Giuliano said:

You don't get it, do you? With other Presidents, if their doctors said things were fine, we'd take their word for it. This President's doctor admitted misleading us. Thus no matter what his doctors or staff say, people still wonder -- so he thinks he has to put on some kind of display. I find it very sad and unfortunate, and especially so if he was really having trouble breathing but felt he needed to act brave.

You seem to think Trump should act like he's a comic book hero. I don't expect any President to be invulnerable to illness. They can get sick like anyone else. If they're sick, they don't need to impress me with some macho act. I'm tired of the theater with this President. Everything is a photo-op for him. Everything is meant to influence others -- like the photo of him signing a blank piece of paper, pretending he's hard at work at Walter Reed. It's absurd. He's the President of the United States. Doesn't he know this? Why is he still acting like it's all a reality TV show?

What's next? Maybe he could hold a "corona party." Attendees contribute $10,000 each to his campaign. In return Trump breathes on them. That way, they too can prove how brave they are; and if they get infected, they can brag how they caught it from the President. I would suggest modifying the lyrics to the song "Lean on Me" to "Breath on Me."

Breath on me when you're not strong
I'll be your friend, I'll help you carry on
For it won't be long
'Til I'm gonna need somebody to breath on
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I don't think you get it. 90% of the media and and all of Hollywood and half of the rest of the Democrat support wanted Trump dead. Of course he was making a statement. He's standing tall in the face of his enemies and saying "here I am. Go suck a lemon". Which they did. Including you.

Giuliano said:

What's next? Maybe he could hold a "corona party." Attendees contribute $10,000 each to his campaign. In return Trump breathes on them. That way, they too can prove how brave they are; and if they get infected, they can brag how they caught it from the President. I would suggest modifying the lyrics to the song "Lean on Me" to "Breath on Me."

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Now you're just sounding desperate.

Backlit said:

I don't think you get it. 90% of the media and and all of Hollywood and half of the rest of the Democrat support wanted Trump dead. Of course he was making a statement. He's standing tall in the face of his enemies and saying "here I am. Go suck a lemon". Which they did. Including you.

Now you're just sounding desperate.

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Oops, now he’s going to put you on ignore like he has the rest of us who don’t agree with his gossip.

Backlit said:

I don't think you get it. 90% of the media and and all of Hollywood and half of the rest of the Democrat support wanted Trump dead. Of course he was making a statement. He's standing tall in the face of his enemies and saying "here I am. Go suck a lemon". Which they did. Including you.

Now you're just sounding desperate.

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You must believe he needs to act like a Superhero to prove how tough he is. I think that's surreal. A man who has to prove to others how tough he is is really a frightened little boy inside.

I never thought he would die. Why would I?

Giuliano said:

You must believe he needs to act like a Superhero to prove how tough he is. I think that's surreal. A man who has to prove to others how tough he is is really a frightened little boy inside.

I never thought he would die. Why would I?

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I didn't say you thought he would die, I said s very large segment of society wanted him to die. And were very forward in saying so. After coming out, that same segment went into meltdown and criticised him for endangering the world and denying all their expectations. And you seem to be agreeing with them. To the point of making up imaginary stories to bolster your argument.
I don't like Trump as a person. I don't trust him entirely in an atmosphere of last day prophecy which depicts aUS government legislating religious dogma and denying religious liberty. That's my personal perspective likely not shared by to many here. But I am not aUS voter anyway, do my opinions are irrelevant. Yet I am an observer. And I observe a democratic leadership supporting and enabling violence and riots and blaming Trump which is simply rank hypocrisy and I cannot abide such blatant wickedness and it nauseates me that so many in America condone it... Or are so blind to it and are willing to empower that mindset by giving it a vote.
I see the American elections not about personality, but about policy. Neither candidate to my mind is worthy. But I think I understand the psychology and insanity that is running rampant through American society at present. And it isn't pretty.

Backlit said:

I didn't say you thought he would die, I said s very large segment of society wanted him to die. And were very forward in saying so. After coming out, that same segment went into meltdown and criticised him for endangering the world and denying all their expectations. And you seem to be agreeing with them. To the point of making up imaginary stories to bolster your argument.
I don't like Trump as a person. I don't trust him entirely in an atmosphere of last day prophecy which depicts aUS government legislating religious dogma and denying religious liberty. That's my personal perspective likely not shared by to many here. But I am not aUS voter anyway, do my opinions are irrelevant. Yet I am an observer. And I observe a democratic leadership supporting and enabling violence and riots and blaming Trump which is simply rank hypocrisy and I cannot abide such blatant wickedness and it nauseates me that so many in America condone it... Or are so blind to it and are willing to empower that mindset by giving it a vote.
I see the American elections not about personality, but about policy. Neither candidate to my mind is worthy. But I think I understand the psychology and insanity that is running rampant through American society at present. And it isn't pretty.

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No, it isn’t pretty. I’ve never seen so much hatred against a president. That hatred is symptomatic of something spiritual. We all need revival!

Backlit said:

I don't think you get it. 90% of the media and and all of Hollywood and half of the rest of the Democrat support wanted Trump dead. Of course he was making a statement. He's standing tall in the face of his enemies and saying "here I am. Go suck a lemon". Which they did. Including you.

Now you're just sounding desperate.

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Exactly! Everything those evil people tried has backfired even their trying to assassinate him has now backfired!

Prayer Warrior said:

There we’re many supporters outside the hospital. Those interviewed conveyed their appreciation.

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Yep. Some benefactor bought pizza for all out there many believe it was Trump

Prayer Warrior said:

No, it isn’t pretty. I’ve never seen so much hatred against a president. That hatred is symptomatic of something spiritual. We all need revival!

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Yes and they personally hate President Trump. I can't stand Obama for how he ruined America but when never think about killing him and hating him personally like the Dems do with President Trump.

I think this opinion is worth some deeper consideration. Trump Still in Danger: Doctors Added Third Drug to His Reckless Experimental Treatment - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com

When is Trump going to condemn hate? When is he going to condemn racism? Why doesn't he condemn hate? He's never condemned hate. Trump hates everyone. He's racist, a womanizer, a terrible person who thrives on hatred. When is he going to condemn hate? When???

Nek minit....
I hope he dies from COVID. Hope he learns his lesson. Hahahaha, Trump has COVID, yay, karma, karma, karma. Hope he dies the fat pig. Look at that egotistic clinically obese unfit sick %#&@@^#!!! Hurry up and die. I support COVID. May COVID live forever.

How can the left not recognize their own hypocrisy? Not that the right is innocent. Not at all. But the above? It is in your face blatant wickedness and evil. Calling black white and white black. Sweet for sour. The thinly disguised joy at the demise of Justice Ginsburg is another example. Politics has cast a dark shadow over basic common sense, compassion, empathy and love.
"He who rejoices at calamity will not go unpunished." [Proverbs 17:5]
"Do not rejoice when your enemy falls, and do not let your heart be glad when he stumbles; or the Lord will see it and be displeased..." [Proverbs 24:17-18]
"Love does no wrong to a neighbor..." [Romans 13:10]

16 points behind Biden, staring down a long prison sentence, and still bragging!

Seven of Nine said:

@Giuliano, @Josho, @Rita

I thought you would want to know about this breaking news... Trump tells his team to end stimulus negotiations until after the election.

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Ok, so I see that some of my American friends now see this as endeavouring to buy votes as he has said that he would ‘ get a good deal once he is elected ‘
I see this is two ways , it could be that he knows he can’t get a good deal before the election ( I don’t know that much about the ins and outs of the negotiations, who is involved ect ) Those in the know, is it too difficult to get a good deal now ?
Or it is a carrot being dangled ( which is what my friends think it is )
The problem with promises before an election is that it isn’t always possible to fulfil them once you get the votes. Some of our politicians have really messed up with that.
Rita

Backlit said:

I didn't say you thought he would die, I said s very large segment of society wanted him to die. And were very forward in saying so.

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Who? I know one social media company (I think it was Twitter) banned any users who said they hoped he died. Frankly, what took them so long? They should have had a policy long ago to take down any posts wishing death on anyone and banning the people who posted them.

I also don't judge society at large by what happens on Twitter. I tend to ignore Twitter as mostly irrelevant. The "Hollywood stars" who say nasty things about Trump? I see them as trying to get attention and get more followers. I see it as influential but still mostly irrelevant what goes on on Twitter. So where's your evidence for "a very large segment of society" wanting him to die? I honestly don't believe that. I live in a mostly Trump area, but there are still Democrats around -- I haven't heard one person saying he wished Trump would die.

After coming out, that same segment went into meltdown and criticised him for endangering the world and denying all their expectations. And you seem to be agreeing with them. To the point of making up imaginary stories to bolster your argument.

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What stories have I told that you think are imaginary? I haven't heard anyone say Trump had endangered the whole world. I've heard Biden say things I thought were exaggerated and not quite fair; but I haven't heard anything that outrageous.

Did you know the Biden campaign took down all its negative ads after Trump was diagnosed?

I don't like Trump as a person. I don't trust him entirely in an atmosphere of last day prophecy which depicts aUS government legislating religious dogma and denying religious liberty. That's my personal perspective likely not shared by to many here. But I am not aUS voter anyway, do my opinions are irrelevant. Yet I am an observer. And I observe a democratic leadership supporting and enabling violence and riots and blaming Trump which is simply rank hypocrisy and I cannot abide such blatant wickedness and it nauseates me that so many in America condone it... Or are so blind to it and are willing to empower that mindset by giving it a vote.
I see the American elections not about personality, but about policy. Neither candidate to my mind is worthy. But I think I understand the psychology and insanity that is running rampant through American society at present. And it isn't pretty.

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You show bias of your own by saying Democratic leadership is enabling and supporting violence. It was Trump who has paid compliments to QAnon and the Proud Boys -- for whatever reason who knows? I think you're drinking the Kool-Aid coming from the right wingers who try to portray all Democrats as villains of the worst sort.

Rita said:

Ok, so I see that some of my American friends now see this as endeavouring to buy votes as he has said that he would ‘ get a good deal once he is elected ‘
I see this is two ways , it could be that he knows he can’t get a good deal before the election ( I don’t know that much about the ins and outs of the negotiations, who is involved ect ) Those in the know, is it too difficult to get a good deal now ?
Or it is a carrot being dangled ( which is what my friends think it is )
The problem with promises before an election is that it isn’t always possible to fulfil them once you get the votes. Some of our politicians have really messed up with that.
Rita

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And now he's backtracked! Now he's asking Pelosi to make a deal. Maybe the sharp decline in the stock market got his attention. Maybe the Fed Chairman gave him a call.

aspen said:

16 points behind Biden, staring down a long prison sentence, and still bragging!

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Not to mention the largest trade deficit since 2008. I agree with Trump that the trade deficit was something that needed addressed. Some people didn't seem to care. Now it's as if Trump doesn't care; and as long as we talk about his theatrical photo-ops, no one is caring that much about things like the trade deficit.

Why Trump lost his battle against the trade deficit.

Mr Trump does not appear to be able to see beyond himself, for he was willing to put his security men and driver at risk in order to parade himself before his supporters, and said that the risk he took did not matter for he was fine. But what of those men who had to walk beside him and care for him, there was no mention of them and their welfare.

He stood on the balcony of the White House, and took off his mask defiantly, trying to hide the fact that his chest was heaving, and his breathing difficult. What for? What was his bravado intended to convey? A man standing defiantly against a hidden foe? Brave in the face of all odds!!? Yet he would turn around and re-enter the white house, unmasked and likely to infect all around him, what for? A gesture!

I hope he and his wife recover, but his behaviour is irresponsible at best.