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For Israel there was to be no God Beside YHWH - and this was at a time when Israel was worshiping mostly other Gods .. and things were not going well.. worship if these other God's being blamed for the downfall - as was custom.
There is no "Trinity" in Isaiah .. and Isaiah has zero bearing on Genesis - Zero Nada Zilch...
I will grant that the passage does have a more monotheistic tone than previous time period - "assuming these passages were not doctored like other passages where monotheism is the subject matter - and this is a stretch" - but, we are not talking about this time period .. we are talking about Genesis.
"The terms used by the author of Deutero-Isaiah are reminiscent of certain passages in the Cyrus Cylinder:[2] Traditionally, these passages in Isaiah were believed to predate the rule of Cyrus by about 100 years, however, most modern scholars date Isaiah 40–55 (often referred to as Deutero-Isaiah), toward the end of the Babylonian exile (c. 536 BC).[9] Whereas Isaiah 1–39 (referred to as Proto-Isaiah) saw the destruction of Israel as imminent, and the restoration in the future, Deutero-Isaiah speaks of the destruction in the past (Isaiah 42:24–25), and the restoration as imminent (Isaiah 42:1–9). Notice, for example, the change in temporal perspective from (Isaiah 39:6–7), where the Babylonian Captivity is cast far in the future, to (Isaiah 43:14), where the Israelites are spoken of as already in Babylon.[10] According to scholar R. N. Whybray, the author of Deutero-Isaiah (chapters 40–55) was mistaken for he thought that Cyrus would destroy Babylon but he did not. Cyrus made it more splendid than ever. But he did allow the Jewish exiles to return home, though not in the triumphant manner which Deutero-Isaiah expected"
So as I stated to you previously - the passaged you are referring to were written during Persian times - which is when the conversion to monotheism was being completed - and so this is exactly what we would expect from Isaiah.
Zero bearing has this to Genesis .. nice try though
Revelation should never have been made Canon .. but in any case ..
Do you know what the penalty for usurping the position of Jesus is ? - something you do quite often.
Ok, you don't like Genesis and Rev. Are there any Books in the Bible that you believe are the written Word of God? Any?
2 Tim 3 All Scripture is GOD BREATHED.
How is believing Jesus usurping Jesus? lol
I like Genesis .. why do you continually make up nonsense - and try to apply that nonsense to others.
If you wish to continue to defend killing children for the sins of their parents - that is your deal.. and you must deal with it.
You still didn't answer. "Are there any Books in the Bible that you believe are the written Word of God?"
Men wrote the Bible - different men - some of which were more inspired than others.
All I know is that what ever you are inspired by - it ain't good. Do you really think that it is "inspired" to kill children for the sins of their parents ? and then turn around and deny that this is what you favor ?
Thank goodness I don't have to engage in mind twisting irrational apologetics to defend my foundation.
You talk in black vs white paradigms - for you it is either all or nothing.. if one word in the Bible is shown to be not God's word - your whole foundation collapses .. and so you have to engage in the most mind bending and twisted denial -
The above definition a of "Christian" is not my definition. My definition is a follower of the teachings of Jesus - now go and learn .. starting with Matt 7:12
You didn't answer the question. Why do you profess to be Christian if you don't believe the Bible? If you don't trust all of the Bible you're just picking parts you like. Are you saying the parts about our Savior Jesus are wrong too? Very dangerous!
Revelation 22:19 (NKJV)
19 If anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Yes...and I am neither agreeing nor disagreeing with what they believe scripture is saying to them. I have no idea where they are in their knowledge and understanding of His Word.
We all start out as babes feeding on the milk...and in time...line upon line, precept upon precept we grow to indulge in the meat of His Word.
The Holy Spirit is the one who leads us into all truth as long as we are seeking and are obedient to study.
You are very harsh with the brothers and sisters here by determining they aren't Christian because their beliefs do not line up with yours. This is against forum rules. Just giving you a gentle nudge that you should be humble and compassionate towards those you engage with.
God Bless
Without you being specific I can hardly answer your charges. I've already been warned for saying it is Satan who says Jesus wasn't good.
I did answer your question - you just could not bear to hear the answer .. I do believe some of the Bible - and Some I do not - like most Christians.
I have answered this question numerous times -yet you keep returning back to the same demonization vomit - rather than the cracks in your foundation .. hoping that denial and avoidance will make those cracks disappear . ..
Not sure why you keep quoting that .. much has been taken away from the Bible - and added over the centuries .. You believe in the version of the Bible that was Changed ?! .. While I try to adhere to the original - as best I can reckon.
If you want to call me defending the Bible "demonization vomit" that's your problem. All of our Bibles confirm the Genesis Flood. Was Jesus wrong too?
Matthew 24:37-39 (NKJV)
37 But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.
38 For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark,
39 and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.
That is now what was called demonization vomit -and you were not defending the Bible - other than repeating your premise over and over like a parrot on a broken record .. as if repetition of premise is proof of claim.
If you want to be a literalist - that is fine -be one .. When you start to go around saying Christians are going to roast in hell for not sharing your beliefs .. and then not defending your position after making such an accusation - making false allegations .. and all of a circular and repetitive nature .. in a dance to avoid supporting your position.
Matt didn't have the advantage of modern archaeology and history - science and technology . ... and it is a good story ..why not believe if you didn't know otherwise ... but now we do
Matt was not a fan of your version of Christianity though - engaged in a little Pious Fraud himself eeee did .. just a wee one though .. nothing to fret over .. but according to your Revelation warning .. the author is in big Trouble ..
I thank Matt for his efforts .. bringing us - in conjunction with Mark - the most important of the Gospels .
Matt used Mark as a source document - sans a few passages that were derogatory to Jesus and/or the disciples .. then combines this with some other document of which we know not the origin ... perhaps from the Original Matt - although this is pure speculation .. could have been from a variety of sources ...
This is as close as we get to the real Jesus - so I abide by the teachings of Jesus as spoken by Jesus - best one can reckon.
You're attacking the Bible and playing the victim.
I simply asked if you believe any of the Bible is the written Word of God. You still didn't answer.
Well let's see, you attacked Genesis, Revelation and now Matthew.Matt didn't have the advantage of modern archaeology and history - science and technology . ... and it is a good story ..why not believe if you didn't know otherwise ... but now we do
Matt was not a fan of your version of Christianity though - engaged in a little Pious Fraud himself eeee did .. just a wee one though .. nothing to fret over .. but according to your Revelation warning .. the author is in big Trouble ..
You must have a really small Bible.
Actually I like your post. I think all "warnings" should be for all of us to read so mods can't attack in private because they disagree. And it might help us to understand the rules better, and maybe understand each other better.
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