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Jesus fully God and fully man
I didn't ask you that, but if Jesus is fully God, please explain how God G2758 κενόω kenoo himself... made himself "empty", and yet in that G2758 κενόω kenoo state upheld the universe and all that's in it.

if you say, well the person Father was still in heaven running everything, so that bring us back to what I been saying, if the person the Son which is Spirit... "God, how much of the Spirit came as Son? all or 1/3. this is what I been asking all along.

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if it's rambling gibberish, then it should be easy for you to throw out the trash, meaning reprove, and why you at it see if you could throw this out.
Isaiah 44:24, is this the Same person in John 1:3 yes or no?

your answer please.

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My last post was not about how Jesus and Father are one - but I have explained and educated you on this numerous times - and you know this - so why are you engaging in such deception and diversion.

You took that conversation down a rabbit hole .. twirling around and foaming at the mouth "Lie Lie Lie" - inferring that the Bible stated that "The Father" was dead -

Prove or explain this claim ? "God is Dead" according to the Bible ?
 

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if it's rambling gibberish, then it should be easy for you to throw out the trash, meaning reprove, and why you at it see if you could throw this out.
Isaiah 44:24, is this the Same person in John 1:3 yes or no?

your answer please.

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well Heyzeus, that should not be hard to answer, either they are the same person "WHO MADE ALL THING", or not.

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My last post was not about how Jesus and Father are one - but I have explained and educated you on this numerous times - and you know this - so why are you engaging in such deception and diversion.

You took that conversation down a rabbit hole .. twirling around and foaming at the mouth "Lie Lie Lie" - inferring that the Bible stated that "The Father" was dead -

Prove or explain this claim ? "God is Dead" according to the Bible ?
God was in Natural flesh, hence natural death, Revelation 2:11 "He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death." so what is the second death? Revelation 20:13 "And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works."Revelation 20:14 "And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death."Revelation 20:15 "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."

Now what's the first death again, James 2:26 "For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also." and he was resurrected, and now have a new one... lol.

see you had no clue of the two deaths. once again, Revelation 1:17 "And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:"Revelation 1:18 "I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death."

now post #1944 please, your answer.

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God was in Natural flesh, hence natural death, Revelation 2:11 "He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death." so what is the second death? Revelation 20:13 "And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works."Revelation 20:14 "And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death."Revelation 20:15 "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."

Now what's the first death again, James 2:26 "For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also." and he was resurrected, and now have a new one... lol.

see you had no clue of the two deaths. once again, Revelation 1:17 "And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:"Revelation 1:18 "I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death."

now post #1944 please, your answer.

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We all know Jesus died. You claimed that the "Most High" "The Father" died.

Your claim that James supports your claim is laughable .. he is talking about humans
Using Revelations as the only support for claim is laughable as well - but even so - it is Jesus that is being referred to and not "The Father".

Is this a joke to you ?
 
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Both Jesus and father are YAHWEH!

The Father Proceeds from the Godhead and the Son Proceeds from the Father - They are distinct in person - separate and distinct entities - yet one in Spirit - which also proceeds from the Godhead and is separate and distinct.

So as the Spirit Dwells in both the Son and the Father - so does the Son dwell in the Father - and the Father in the Son. Separate entities - yet one in spirit .. and this is the only way to make sense of the Trinity and Scripture.
 
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We all know Jesus died. You claimed that the "Most High" "The Father" died.

Your claim that James supports your claim is laughable .. he is talking about humans
Using Revelations as the only support for claim is laughable as well - but even so - it is Jesus that is being referred to and not "The Father".

Is this a joke to you ?
first thanks for the reply, second, quit lying. I said the First and the Last died... (smile). what's wrong, you can't read?
third, you said, "Your claim that James supports your claim is laughable .. he is talking about humans" was not Christ a man, did he not take on flesh and blood, and did he not die from that flesh and blood. no, it's your ignorance of the truth that have you caught in being "UNLEARNED". ther scriptures are true, Hosea 4:6 "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children."

this is what has happen to you, "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee". see you been rejected, and fit for destrtuction. don't look at 101G, theses are not 101G's words. 2 Thessalonians 2:11 "And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:" (oh yes, they have eaten it hook line and sinker).
2 Thessalonians 2:12 "That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." :rolleyes: YIKES!

and what's... lol, laughable is other see you cannot acknowledge the scriptures.
understand the the person in Isaiah 44:24 is the Same person in John 1:3 who "MADE ALL THINGS". which destroys your false answer that El made and created all thing. lol, the joke is on you, because you not not studied the bible... WITH the Holy Ghost... see one can study the bible all day long, and get NOTHING... zero, zilch. but when one read with the Holy Spirit, then one "GAIN" kowledge, and "UNDERSTANDING" of God's Holy Word.

and no, the word of God is not a joke to me, but ... U ... (smile).

I'm having a ball. why? listen, John 8:36 "If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed." See, I'm FREE, that why I can talk the way that I do, understand there is a big difference between "MADE" Free, and "SET" free... (smile)... lol. and because I'm free, the very next verse tell it all. John 8:37 "I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you."

see, that's why U thinks it's a joke to me. no, I'm giving you truth according to the scriptures, and U want to know why.... simply disprove what I say by the scriptures. you can't Why, again to what the Lord Jesus said, "because my word hath no place in you.

you see Heyzeus, his sheep hear his voice, but a stranger....... LOL, my God the word is so true, they want hear you.

now to prove my point, listen and see if the Lord word have any place in you,

Revelation 5:1 "And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals."
NOW, this, same chapter,
Revelation 5:6 "And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth."

now Heyzeus, since you could not answer the Isaiah 44:24 and John 1:3 question as to "Who Made all things"..... ok, he who sit on the throne, here in Revelation 5 is the same person, he who stands, (the Lamb), is this true or not... (smile). your answer please.

now if you say you're serving the most High God then go to him and ask is this is true or not.... (smile).

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first thanks for the reply, second, quit lying. I said the First and the Last died... (smile). what's wrong, you can't read?
third, you said, "Your claim that James supports your claim is laughable .. he is talking about humans" was not Christ a man, did he not take on flesh and blood, and did he not die from that flesh and blood. no, it's your ignorance of the truth that have you caught in being "UNLEARNED". ther scriptures are true, Hosea 4:6 "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children."


now Heyzeus, since you could not answer the Isaiah 44:24 and John 1:3 question as to "Who Made all things"..... ok, he who sit on the throne, here in Revelation 5 is the same person, he who stands, (the Lamb), is this true or not... (smile). your answer please.

now if you say you're serving the most High God then go to him and ask is this is true or not.... (smile).

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I answered all of your questions so "quit lying" and projecting your failings onto others.

The idea that James was talking about Christ is abject nonsense - self delusion - and just plain silly

Isaiah does not mention Jesus .. and John states that it was the Word of God that made all things .. the word of "The Most High" .. not of Jesus.

You are lost - desperately searching for some non-existent straw to grasp at - after a lost Cause - against gospels full of scripture where Jesus claims that the Father is other than himself.

Nighty night :)
 

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I answered all of your questions so "quit lying" and projecting your failings onto others.

The idea that James was talking about Christ is abject nonsense - self delusion - and just plain silly

Isaiah does not mention Jesus .. and John states that it was the Word of God that made all things .. the word of "The Most High" .. not of Jesus.

You are lost - desperately searching for some non-existent straw to grasp at - after a lost Cause - against gospels full of scripture where Jesus claims that the Father is other than himself.

Nighty night :)
where have you answered? in your mind, and we see what's there by your propaganda.

now straight outta your mouth, is the person in Isaiah 44:24 the same person in John 1:3 you said no. well the bible say different. which means you lied.

here's why. if the person in Isaiah 44:24 is not the same person in John 1:3 the there is two Makers of the same "ALL THINGS", which the bible say is a lie. listen, Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;"

the one who Made all things is the First/LORD... all caps, and the Last/Lord... who is JESUS... LOL and Jesus is the First and the Last, and he, Jesus is the LORD and the Lord. (smile), which now make Psalms 110:1 "A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool."

how many person is that Heyzeus? .... :D YIKES!

see I know, but I have said it so many times, .... you find out.

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where have you answered? in your mind, and we see what's there by your propaganda.

now straight outta your mouth, is the person in Isaiah 44:24 the same person in John 1:3 you said no. well the bible say different. which means you lied.

here's why. if the person in Isaiah 44:24 is not the same person in John 1:3 the there is two Makers of the same "ALL THINGS", which the bible say is a lie. listen, Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;"

the one who Made all things is the First/LORD... all caps, and the Last/Lord... who is JESUS... LOL and Jesus is the First and the Last, and he, Jesus is the LORD and the Lord. (smile), which now make Psalms 110:1 "A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool."

how many person is that Heyzeus? .... :D YIKES!

see I know, but I have said it so many times, .... you find out.

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Why don't you try finding one passage from scripture that supports your claim rather than posting 10 passaged that don't :)
 

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Why don't you try finding one passage from scripture that supports your claim rather than posting 10 passaged that don't :)
ok Isaiah 44:24 and John 1:3 is not the LORD is Jesus almighty? yes or no.

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ok Isaiah 44:24 and John 1:3 is not the LORD is Jesus almighty? yes or no.

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Isaiah does not even mention Jesus - and certainly does not state that he is equal with God
and John calling Jesus the emissary between man and God - does not mean that Jesus is equal with God - for the 5th time.

Then - after imparting your own meaning to scripture - you then deny the teachings of Jesus on this basis of your made up delusion.