BREAKING NEWS--Biden Secret Emails

Giuliano said:

Why don't you write the White House and ask Trump why he hasn't seen her locked up for this sort of thing?

I notice however that you don't dispute the claim that people who worked for him can wind up in jail. Time will tell how the Brad Parscale turns out. The last I heard a judge refused to give him his guns back after he was released from being locked up for mental observation.

My own theory on that is Parscale could go to jail. Too bad the FEC doesn't have enough members now to take real action. My theory is Parscale enriched himself at the expense of the Trump campaign. When he got drunk and went berserk in Florida, the White House said it was because of the pressure Democrats were putting on him, that he hadn't misappropriated money, that they weren't trying to get money back from him. LOL, but the video tape of him by the police has him saying he went bonkers because his wife refused to have sex with him. She was a money-grubber, he said, who wanted all his money. Could be, could be -- and where did he get all that money?

Why is the Trump campaign broke? So broke they hold events in airplane hangars and are cutting back ads in key states? I think maybe some Republican donors may be wondering the same thing and are reluctant to give them more money to throw away. I see though that Adelson just gave money to an anti-Biden group --$ 75 million in fact. Thank God for that gambling money! Thank God for rich Jews who think Trump is the anointed one!

GOP megadonor Sheldon Adelson, wife finance anti-Biden group

Republican megadonor Sheldon Adelson and his wife have given $75 million to a new super PAC that is attacking Democratic nominee Joe Biden, an investment made amid GOP concern that President Donald Trump’s campaign is flailing and might not be able to correct course.

The money from the couple has been the driving force behind a more than $76 million attack campaign against Biden by the group Preserve America, which launched in August. It is run by Chris LaCivita, the strategist behind the 2004 Swift Boat Veterans for the Truth campaign, which helped tank then-Democratic nominee John Kerry’s bid with misleading ads that questioned his record in the Vietnam War.​

Not to worry -- Adelson has money to burn. He knows how to run casinos. He doesn't go broke doing it the way Trump did.

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Backlit said:

Okay.

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Does that mean you are going to write the White House and ask why the Trump administration hasn't arrested the people he says ought to be arrested?

None of the denials from the Biden office are credible yet.
Things like "It isn't Hunter's laptop"
"Those aren't Hunter's emails, they are forgeries"
Or something along those lines.

They are in the form of PDFs...which makes them hide the routing numbers for the internet which makes them harder to prove one way or another if they are faked or not.

True professionals need to examine the original hard drive and the copy that is made to examine everything. That will put things to rest of whether this is a fraud or not.

And a perfect opener for "obstruction of justice, lying under oath, selling access to government officials, and the other charges.

And it may be a Russian inspired plot to destroy Biden...but possibly they did it with true facts as well.

And that's what I would like to know.

Prayer Warrior said:

What I would like to know is which politicians (no matter which party) have sold America out to the Communists!

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Neither side of this discussion is being exactly forthright and forthcoming with information.
Adam Schiff claims Hunter Biden email stories come 'from the Kremlin'

Prayer Warrior said:

Should I feel honored that you took me off ignore? I think you put me on ignore after I chided you for speaking slanderous rubbish about Franklin Graham, a man whose ministry has helped millions and millions of the world’s impoverished and sick. Oops, off topic.

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Why post this then? You don't know how to remove irrelevant matter once you typed it? You just decide to post it and say oops? That seems dishonest to me, and I won't say oops about it.

Of course CNN has some good stories. I read them occasionally, BUT they also have a decidedly LEFTIST political agenda. (Perhaps this has something to do with their founder.) I would say that most of the MSM is very leftist and have become downright hateful. I refuse to listen to anyone who spews hate. I don’t need that junk in my soul.

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I thought you believed even embraced the NY Post story about the Bidens fervently. I thought you had swallowed the story they printed hook, line and sinker. Me? I try to be cautious about swallowing stories. I know there are crooks who do things which cannot be proved in court; but I also believe in the concept of innocent until proved guilty. And I abhor anyone who advocates vigilante justice like the people who shout "Lock him up" at Trump rallies. They act like lawless mobs and Trump enjoys it.

Adam Schiff has blamed everything on Russian involvement.

Guiliani hasn't been exactly forthcoming with the evidence...
Neither has the FBI.

All we currently have is one drug dependant drunk son, one felon, and a ton of accusations. Let's not forget all the rhetoric from those who don't want to put aside the rhetoric and speak honestly and clearly.

Coui Bono
(Who benefits)

Every politician who talks about it.

JohnDB said:

None of the denials from the Biden office are credible yet.
Things like "It isn't Hunter's laptop"
"Those aren't Hunter's emails, they are forgeries"
Or something along those lines.

They are in the form of PDFs...which makes them hide the routing numbers for the internet which makes them harder to prove one way or another if they are faked or not.

True professionals need to examine the original hard drive and the copy that is made to examine everything. That will put things to rest of whether this is a fraud or not.

And a perfect opener for "obstruction of justice, lying under oath, selling access to government officials, and the other charges.

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I hate to make things more complicated with more of my own speculation; but it may also be possible that American intelligence is lying low on this with good reason. They may be in the middle of an investigation which would be compromised if they spoke up.

If I had to guess, I would guess that someone hacked Hunter's email account or laptop and got legit emails along with the sex tape. Those got mixed in with fabricated emails -- and some of the emails are said to look fraudulent, lacking context. Others would be genuine, and other parties would say as much, "Yes, I sent that" or "Yes, I received that." That would give the collection of emails more credibility.

One thing we know is that Trump was warned that Giuliani was associating with a Russian agent. How would American intelligence know that? They probably wouldn't have learned it from spying on Giuliani. They would have been spying on the other guy and found out Giuliani was hanging out with him. Why would they tell Trump and not Giuliani? My guess is they thought maybe Giuliani was "colluding" with the Russians and Trump deserved to know. They wouldn't tell Giuliani since he might spill the beans and then the Russian agent would know he was being spied on.

Another thing which needs clearing up is what motivated the owner of the computer store to make copies of the hard drive. In one interview, that owner rambled on about Seth Rich and said just having the hard drive made him fear for his life. Giuliani said something similar on Fox.

Giuliani: Computer shop owner who found alleged Hunter Biden emails told FBI he was 'really afraid'


I find that highly improbable. I know I wouldn't react like that. First, I wouldn't have the time to look at all the contents of a hard drive like that. Maybe the customer would come back to claim it. But if I did look at it and found dangerous stuff, I'd call the FBI immediately and hand it over to them. If I felt knowing something might endanger my life, I'd be begging the FBI to take it. I wouldn't be making copies of it to spread around, risking my name getting dragged into a public spectacle.

If Hunter Biden forgot where he left the laptop, why would I be worried for my life about it? Why would he abandon the laptop only to get so worried about it later that I should fear for my life? It might make a good movie, but I don't think it's very realistic.

Giuliano said:

I hate to make things more complicated with more of my own speculation; but it may also be possible that American intelligence is lying low on this with good reason. They may be in the middle of an investigation which would be compromised if they spoke up.

If I had to guess, I would guess that someone hacked Hunter's email account or laptop and got legit emails along with the sex tape. Those got mixed in with fabricated emails -- and some of the emails are said to look fraudulent, lacking context. Others would be genuine, and other parties would say as much, "Yes, I sent that" or "Yes, I received that." That would give the collection of emails more credibility.

One thing we know is that Trump was warned that Giuliani was associating with a Russian agent. How would American intelligence know that? They probably wouldn't have learned it from spying on Giuliani. They would have been spying on the other guy and found out Giuliani was hanging out with him. Why would they tell Trump and not Giuliani? My guess is they thought maybe Giuliani was "colluding" with the Russians and Trump deserved to know. They wouldn't tell Giuliani since he might spill the beans and then the Russian agent would know he was being spied on.

Another thing which needs clearing up is what motivated the owner of the computer store to make copies of the hard drive. In one interview, that owner rambled on about Seth Rich and said just having the hard drive made him fear for his life. Giuliani said something similar on Fox.

Giuliani: Computer shop owner who found alleged Hunter Biden emails told FBI he was 'really afraid'

In an interview airing on Fox News' "Life, Liberty & Levin" Sunday evening, Giuliani -- now President Trump's personal attorney -- told host Mark Levin that the Delaware computer shop owner who allegedly took possession of Hunter Biden's laptop told an FBI agent he was "really afraid because the Bidens are very powerful around here."

"The gentleman who was repairing the hard drive -- and Hunter Biden abandoned it," recounted Giuliani, apparently referring to John Paul Mac Isaac. "He [Hunter Biden] may very well have forgotten where he left it for a while, because the gentlemen who got it said he [Hunter] was drunk for the entire time that he dealt with him, and he dealt with him twice."​

I find that highly improbable. I know I wouldn't react like that. First, I wouldn't have the time to look at all the contents of a hard drive like that. Maybe the customer would come back to claim it. But if I did look at it and found dangerous stuff, I'd call the FBI immediately and hand it over to them. If I felt knowing something might endanger my life, I'd be begging the FBI to take it. I wouldn't be making copies of it to spread around, risking my name getting dragged into a public spectacle.

If Hunter Biden forgot where he left the laptop, why would I be worried for my life about it? Why would he abandon the laptop only to get so worried about it later that I should fear for my life? It might make a good movie, but I don't think it's very realistic.

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The shop owner has a political agenda. Let's get that part clear. He might not be able to see far away... like 10 feet away but he definitely is a republican in a lawyer overloaded town. (Many corporations have their articles of incorporation in that city)

Now the Russian agent is outed...his name is in the headlines these days. If I was him I'd be running back to Russia.

Now Guliani is a partisan too obviously. He has a vested interest in seeing Donald do well politically. He is under crushing debt for an ex wife. (Perfect tool for the Russians)

Hunter has a chemical dependency problem. No one is going to believe that he doesn't. When he can't clean up his act for a week before a drug test...and the medicines that alleviate the symptoms get you high as well.
Also most of those whom I've had contact with who have chemical dependency issues are not even hesitant about drinking excessively or mixing up pills with booze.
So the story of Hunter being drunk is quite plausible. He definitely was being used by others but being well paid at the same time.
(Millions for trillions here and regardless of anything said it's rather obvious)

Then we have two political rhetoric candidates. One who can't think on his feet and speak clearly and one who is so focused on saying outrageous things that neither is being clear.

Prayer Warrior said:

Lol, just some tongue-in-cheek humor. Lost on you, I guess.

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Yes, I find that kind of "humor" rather lame. I could say "sorry" but I'm not sorry.

You bill yourself as a nonpartisan, but I've scanned many of your posts pertaining to Trump and other Republicans. What you write is so often a ditto of the leftist media slander. Why is that?? Why don't you go after Democrats like you have Republicans? And please don't tell me you think the Democrats are angels!.

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At the moment, Trump is the President. That's for starters. What he says and does matters more than what some of the loonier Democrats say and do. You can call what I write "slander," but I don't think is a good enough explanation just as Trump saying "fake news" about news he doesn't like doesn't convince the American people he's so honest and the media are the big liars.

Would you like me to get bolder and more aggressive? I can post links to that story about Brad Parscale. I could start a thread about it. They have body-cam footage of what went down. Anyone who watches it can see how he lies. Sure, he's drunk and may not be that alert; but it's still interesting to see how his instinct is to lie about things.

How about a thread about how Melania was swearing about Christmas decorations? I could provide links. She got caught doing it. It's on tape. It's her. I could also talk about how Melania's father wanted to have her brother aborted -- and how she sided with her father by denying she had a brother. Her brother had done nothing wrong by being born. Why would she deny he existed? To protect her father's reputation?

I think I've been taking it rather easy on these people. For one thing, part of me feels sorry for Melania. Another part doesn't. But as Biden put it at the debate when Trump wanted to talk about Hunter, "His family we could talk about all night."


If people think attacking family members is a good idea, maybe Biden could do that.

JohnDB said:

The shop owner has a political agenda. Let's get that part clear. He might not be able to see far away... like 10 feet away but he definitely is a republican in a lawyer overloaded town. (Many corporations have their articles of incorporation in that city)

Now the Russian agent is outed...his name is in the headlines these days. If I was him I'd be running back to Russia.

Now Guliani is a partisan too obviously. He has a vested interest in seeing Donald do well politically. He is under crushing debt for an ex wife. (Perfect tool for the Russians)

Hunter has a chemical dependency problem. No one is going to believe that he doesn't. When he can't clean up his act for a week before a drug test...and the medicines that alleviate the symptoms get you high as well.
Also most of those whom I've had contact with who have chemical dependency issues are not even hesitant about drinking excessively or mixing up pills with booze.
So the story of Hunter being drunk is quite plausible. He definitely was being used by others but being well paid at the same time.
(Millions for trillions here and regardless of anything said it's rather obvious)

Then we have two political rhetoric candidates. One who can't think on his feet and speak clearly and one who is so focused on saying outrageous things that neither is being clear.

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What is implausible about the story is not whether Hunter was drunk. What is implausible is that Giuliani said that when the store owner said he couldn't identify the person who dropped it off as Hunter. If the store owner wasn't sure it was Hunter, how could Giuliani know it was him and that he was drunk? These people are not very good at lying. Maybe they need lessons from Bill Clinton.

Prayer Warrior said:

There are plenty of Democrats who wield way too much power! If you're an honest nonpartisan, why don't you take on Pelosi, for starters?

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I am not your puppet. Why don't you stop trying to control other people?

Giuliano said:

What is implausible about the story is not whether Hunter was drunk. What is implausible is that Giuliani said that when the store owner said he couldn't identify the person who dropped it off as Hunter. If the store owner wasn't sure it was Hunter, how could Giuliani know it was him and that he was drunk? These people are not very good at lying. Maybe they need lessons from Bill Clinton.

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Apparently the store owner has a vision problem and is being careful with what he says. (A bit of a conspiracy theorist)
Guliani is taking a page from Donald and is more than willing to say whatever to the press...what he says in court will be another matter entirely. (Usual political lawyer junk)

At least that's how I'm assessing the situation.

With all the focus on this situation...this will end up with someone going to jail for something. (Other than zuckerberg and Twitter)