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Why Wait? However, Trump Is Paving The Way For Israel To Build The 3rd Temple! #JaredCushner
 

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Don't you understand what the three "Woe's" mean?

It's not going to be pleasant for us... scriptures weren't written to heathens...it was written to followers of Christ.
 
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While socialism and atheism under the guise of pseudo Catholicism might be difficult to live under, I think the alternative is more likely to fulfill prophecy. In the last days there are only two sides, and atheistic communism isn't one of them and I don't think rabid socialism such as what we know of Harris and her friends will be too evident either. Babylon might be confused about her doctrines, but she most assuredly isn't atheist and perhaps mildly socialist. Fascist probably, but certainly not the brand socialist we see being promoted currently on the left.
A union of church and state which prophecy demands I see more coming from the right. I could be wrong. Politics is a strange beast when behaving well, but when it's behaving badly, is predatorial, tyrannical, dictatorial, and corrupt as a two bob watch. (An old kiwi idiom... Translated into American would be corrupt as a two dime watch.
 
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Don't you understand what the three "Woe's" mean?

It's not going to be pleasant for us... scriptures weren't written to heathens...it was written to followers of Christ.


You Have No Idea About Any Scriptures! Your Life Is Lived As A Human, Not As A Human Who Has Already Left This World! You Fear Every Corner You Come Upon, You Fear Death, Don't You Know? Perfect Love Cast Out All Fear? Let Your Human Life Go, Let The Lord Over Take You!
 

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You Have No Idea About Any Scriptures! Your Life Is Lived As A Human, Not As A Human Who Has Already Left This World! You Fear Every Corner You Come Upon, You Fear Death, Don't You Know? Perfect Love Cast Out All Fear? Let Your Human Life Go, Let The Lord Over Take You!

I used to fear death, not really anymore though. I still have fears, but they're usually silly things. I can't help it, they pop up, any suggestions?
 

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I used to fear death, not really anymore though. I still have fears, but they're usually silly things. I can't help it, they pop up, any suggestions?
You don't fear death, but you fear only silly things? How is that possible?
You're the one that doesn't fear death, why are you asking us on how to overcome your silly fears, I still fear death, very much???
 

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I will pray for you tonight! I will tell you the truth tomorrow! I'm sleepy!
I have to wait to hear the truth? Your sleep is more important than telling us the truth, how dare you? I demand that you give us truth immediately, otherwise I will report you to the Forum moderators, and they will definitely get the truth out of you, you'll see!!!
 

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You don't fear death, but you fear only silly things? How is that possible?
You're the one that doesn't fear death, why are you asking us on how to overcome your silly fears, I still fear death, very much???

Death comes in many forms, from very painful as in a crushed car in a car accident or crushed under a roof in an earthquake, to not so painful as in one's heart stopping suddenly and black out of the mind. So perhaps I still fear death sure.

But I have some mental disorders I have to deal with so my mind produces odd things that normal people don't experience. I take medication for it so I function pretty well, but weird things still surface.
 

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Death comes in many forms, from very painful as in a crushed car in a car accident or crushed under a roof in an earthquake, to not so painful as in one's heart stopping suddenly and black out of the mind. So perhaps I still fear death sure.

But I have some mental disorders I have to deal with so my mind produces odd things that normal people don't experience. I take medication for it so I function pretty well, but weird things still surface.
Well, I'm very sorry to hear about your condition, but fears of all sorts are prevalent in each and every one of us. I've never met anyone who doesn't fear death, at least who are able to face it or look it in the eye (as opposed to being unaware when it happens).
I've heard jshii makes this claim way too many times, but even the first time that he said it I did not believe him. It takes either a great man of faith, or one with a death wish, to not fear death, and the former is derived from his faith and understanding of the after-life.
I'm not the wise, I'm not that faithful, spiders and millipedes still scare me, and I still have some immature personal insecurities - so sorry, I'm probably not the right guy to help anyone else with their issues.
 
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Well, I'm very sorry to hear about your condition, but fears of all sorts are prevalent in each and every one of us. I've never met anyone who doesn't fear death, at least who are able to face it or look it in the eye (as opposed to being unaware when it happens).
I've heard jshii makes this claim way too many times, but even the first time that he said it I did not believe him. It takes either a great man of faith, or one with a death wish, to not fear death, and the former is derived from his faith and understanding of the after-life.
I'm not the wise, I'm not that faithful, spiders still scare me, and I still have some immature personal insecurities - so sorry, I'm probably not the right guy to help anyone else with their issues.

I've had a lot of interaction with God, and I feel safe in him. I used to fear death and had to go to the ER every time I thought I was having a heart attack, when in all actuality it was weird anxiety mimicking heart attack symptoms. But God brought me past that, and now when I have anxiety, I don't fear that it might kill me (the heart attack), cause it's not so bad of a death. And if I pass onto the other side, well, I'll be OK.
 

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I've had a lot of interaction with God, and I feel safe in him. I used to fear death and had to go to the ER every time I thought I was having a heart attack, when in all actuality it was weird anxiety mimicking heart attack symptoms. But God brought me past that, and now when I have anxiety, I don't fear that it might kill me (the heart attack), cause it's not so bad of a death. And if I pass onto the other side, well, I'll be OK.
Yes, but your final remark requires a profound conviction. Yes, a less painful death would scare me less than a torturous one, but both will make me fearful and weak. Ideally, no Christion should be anxious, for as Paul said, no one can fathom what God has in store for those who love him. To the point, we'll be ashamed to think that we ever had an attachment to this putrid world, all its conventions and all the decay that is in it. But again, what great faith and wisdom is required to attain to such a lofty conviction?
 
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Yes, but your final remark requires a profound conviction. Yes, a less painful death would scare me less than a torturous one, but both will make me fearful and weak. Ideally, no Christion should be anxious, for as Paul said, no one can fathom what God has in store for those who love him. To the point, we'll be ashamed to think that we ever had an attachment to this putrid world, all its conventions and all the decay that is in it. But again, what great faith and wisdom is required to attain to such a lofty conviction?

I agree. No one really knows what awaits on the other side. Many would disagree with you on that also. But the conviction comes from the fruits of the Holy Spirit, namely "peace" and "love" from God, which casts out fear of judgment. See Galatians 5:22-23

"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law."

And I believe that was from Paul as well. And this love I feel when the Holy Spirit fills me with it is the love of God for me personally. So personal convictions aside, these fruits have no law against them, no judgment will prevail against them.

My understanding of this "against such there is no law" is limited as I'm still somewhat new to them. Hope that helps get my point across though.

But basically when I'm filled with the fruits of the spirit I don't feel fears like those that could cause death anxieties.
 

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I agree. No one really knows what awaits on the other side. Many would disagree with you on that also. But the conviction comes from the fruits of the Holy Spirit, namely "peace" and "love" from God, which casts out fear of judgment. See Galatians 5:22-23

"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law."

And I believe that was from Paul as well. And this love I feel when the Holy Spirit fills me with it is the love of God for me personally. So personal convictions aside, these fruits have no law against them, no judgment will prevail against them.

My understanding of this "against such there is no law" is limited as I'm still somewhat new to them. Hope that helps get my point across though.

But basically when I'm filled with the fruits of the spirit I don't feel fears like those that could cause death anxieties.
Well, that's a very good point. Yes, when one behaves correctly, in a manner where there is no guilt, then yes, fear of punishment subsides and one's character is strengthened with a clear conscious, with a fearless anticipation of the judgement to come. And, as you said, faith in God casts away fears, for if He is for you, who can be against you?
 
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Well, I'm very sorry to hear about your condition, but fears of all sorts are prevalent in each and every one of us. I've never met anyone who doesn't fear death, at least who are able to face it or look it in the eye (as opposed to being unaware when it happens).
I've heard jshii makes this claim way too many times, but even the first time that he said it I did not believe him. It takes either a great man of faith, or one with a death wish, to not fear death, and the former is derived from his faith and understanding of the after-life.
I'm not the wise, I'm not that faithful, spiders and millipedes still scare me, and I still have some immature personal insecurities - so sorry, I'm probably not the right guy to help anyone else with their issues.


Stephen who was stoned, John the Baptist who was beheaded, neither feared Death!
 

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Let us do evil so good may come.... wait a second, nevermind.
 

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Stephen who was stoned, John the Baptist who was beheaded, neither feared Death!
Absolutely they were, but as far as you are concerned, you are too boastful about it, and not imparting a profound wisdom, but mere clichés, in order to instill it in others. So, I question the veracity of your affirmation.
 

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Absolutely they were, but as far as you are concerned, you are too boastful about it, and not imparting a profound wisdom, but mere clichés, in order to instill it in others. So, I question the veracity of your affirmation.


@DNB You are confusing "boastful" for Faith my friend. I believe God's, Jesus's, Word! 1 John 4:18, There is no fear in love, but perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one (You are the ONE DNB, pay attention) who fears is not made perfect in love.

If you read his word, then believe his word DNB. Your faith is lacking my friend. Your only purpose as a Christian is to bring Glory to Christ.

Bless You Bro
 

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A union of church and state which prophecy demands I see more coming from the right. I could be wrong. Politics is a strange beast when behaving well, but when it's behaving badly, is predatorial, tyrannical, dictatorial, and corrupt as a two bob watch. (An old kiwi idiom... Translated into American would be corrupt as a two dime watch.

I can assure you that the union of the true church (i.e. real Christians) and government is NOT what the antichrist will have in mind!

Personally, I believe that the world religion of the antichrist will be some form of mysticism. Every religion has a mystical element. Some are saying even Christianity does, but this isn't the truth. The New Age Movement IS a modern form of mysticism.

Mysticism goes back to the ancient mystery religions of Babylon and Egypt and has been alive and ticking ever since in some form. The bottomline of these false religions is that man can work his way to a union with God because his "real self" IS God.

Of course, we know that Jesus Christ is the ONLY way to experience union with God, but we never become God.

So, what you're saying about church and state is a moot point.
 
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