The False Doctrine with key word "COVER"

CharismaticLady · Oct 20, 2020

Christophany said:
what was 2 cor 7:8 written in response to ?

All the allowance of carnality in the church. 1 Corinthians 5:11 But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person.

Especially a man who was having sex with his father's wife.

Those who are born again of the Spirit cannot tolerate sin.

Nancy · Oct 20, 2020

CharismaticLady said:
Hi C,

Those weren't my fingers, but those of an old friend.

Can you give me some scriptures that say we have both a born again nature AND the old nature?

Hi Cl,

I wonder what your thoughts are on the following scripture. Mainly the bolded part:

"Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God's law, but in my sinful nature a slave to the law of sin."

BTW, I (ironically, lol) received the new Behold the Lamb booklet and it is on...."What is Freedom from Sin"

Earburner · Oct 20, 2020

justbyfaith said:
Someone who repents towards God, but does not repent away from sin, is not saved.

For the nature of salvation is that Jesus came to save us from our sins (Matthew 1:21).

Therefore salvation is from sin; and if we are not saved from our sins, we are not saved.

A person is not saved from hell without first being saved from his sins.

We are saved from hell because the reason why we were going to hell, our sins, has been dealt with.

When it says in Psalms 103 that God has removed our sins from us as far as the east is from the west, He is talking about practical sins and not just the penalty for our sins.

1 John 3:9 tells us, whether it is hyperbole or not, that our lifestyle will change from being one of sinning when we become born again of the Holy Spirit.

If we abide in Christ we sin not (1 John 3:6) for ever (1 John 2:17).

In case you didn't notice
Revelatiion 3:20 and Romans 8:8-9 speak the truth of John 3:18.
Sin is no longer the issue, when one repents (metanoia) towards God through Christ. Either all of your sins are removed, or they are not! If you believe it not, then you still believe that you are condemned!

So then, it all boils down to whether you believe/trust in Christ with all your heart, or you don't.
Where is YOUR faith?

BloodBought 1953 · Oct 20, 2020

justbyfaith said:
Jesus said, not once, but twice, in the same discourse, I tell you, Nay; but except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. (Luke 13:1-5)

Yeah.....but notice he did NOT say, “ repent of SINS”.....Jesus is merely restating what God has already said.... To “Repent means TO TURN”.....God says , “ TURN to me , and I will Turn to you...” God says, TURN to me , with Faith in Jesus Christ” and I will Save you to the UTTERMOST!......Jesus wanted His Jewish Brothers to TURN to Him,so that He might Save them......
Nowhere does it say in the KJV that one must Repent Of Sins to be Saved....Prove me Wrong and I’ll give you $1000.....It just ain’t in there ....if you believe that giving up sinning is the Plan to get to heaven....you are Damned ....

BloodBought 1953 · Oct 20, 2020

Blood Bought 1953 said:
Yeah.....but notice he did NOT say, “ repent of SINS”.....Jesus is merely restating what God has already said.... To “Repent means TO TURN”.....God says , “ TURN to me , and I will Turn to you...” God says, TURN to me , with Faith in Jesus Christ” and I will Save you to the UTTERMOST!......Jesus wanted His Jewish Brothers to TURN to Him,so that He might Save them......
Nowhere does it say in the KJV that one must Repent Of Sins to be Saved....Prove me Wrong and I’ll give you $1000.....It just ain’t in there ....if you believe that giving up sinning is the Plan to get to heaven....you are Damned ....

Charismatic Lady claims she is without sin now...Of course, she is deluded.....but let's just pretend that she is right....if she no longer sins, that means she keeps the Law .....if she kept it perfectly ( which nobody does) what good would it accomplish as far as justifying herself before God as the reason she should be admitted to Heaven? “ By The Works Of The Law , no Flesh will be Justified”.....All Of That Work , all of that pretend, all of that delusion.....all for Nothing.It played NO PART in getting Justified before God....Trusting Jesus was the only thing that mattered .....ultimately she “bet on the wrong pony”—-In the End, she put her Trust in herself and in her Performance.....She found out the hard way that Jesus did not need what amounted to a “ Co-Savior”.... she tried to be Justified by something that God said could not Justify.....She was kinda like Cain.....God Said “ this way, but I am going to do it my way.... it’s called Pride and self-Righteousness ....God won’t accept either....

ChristisGod · Oct 20, 2020

CharismaticLady said:
All the allowance of carnality in the church. 1 Corinthians 5:11 But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person.

Especially a man who was having sex with his father's wife.

Those who are born again of the Spirit cannot tolerate sin.

So Paul was addressing the one sin and the person repented because of Pauls instruction in 1 cor proving he was saved.

Was king David saved ? yes or no

hope this helps !!!

justbyfaith · Oct 20, 2020

Earburner said:
In case you didn't notice
Revelatiion 3:20 and Romans 8:8-9 speak the truth of John 3:18.
Sin is no longer the issue, when one repents (metanoia) towards God through Christ. Either all of your sins are removed, or they are not! If you believe it not, then you still believe that you are condemned!

So then, it all boils down to whether you believe/trust in Christ with all your heart, or you don't.
Where is YOUR faith?

Jesus came to save us from our sins (Matthew 1:21).

Blood Bought 1953 said:
Yeah.....but notice he did NOT say, “ repent of SINS”.....

Jesus came to save us from our sins (Matthew 1:21).

If you want to believe that you can go to heaven apart from repenting of your sins, be my guest...

I will take the narrow path of obeying the Lord. The path in which I dig deep and lay a foundation of obedience; so that when the storms of life come, my house will stand (Matthew 7:24-27, Luke 6:46-49)...

Blood Bought 1953 said:
....if you believe that giving up sinning is the Plan to get to heaven....you are Damned ....

That is so preposterous as to not even dignify a response.

But I will say this: Jesus' purpose in coming into the world was to save us from our sins (Matthew 1:21).

You can say you believe in Jesus; but if you do not go by His teachings how can you say that you believe in Him (see James 1:22-25)?

Blood Bought 1953 said:
Charismatic Lady claims she is without sin now...Of course, she is deluded.....but let's just pretend that she is right....if she no longer sins, that means she keeps the Law .....if she kept it perfectly ( which nobody does) what good would it accomplish as far as justifying herself before God as the reason she should be admitted to Heaven? “ By The Works Of The Law , no Flesh will be Justified”.....All Of That Work , all of that pretend, all of that delusion.....all for Nothing.

I have said it before and I will say it again (because you did not respond the first time):

It is the result of a real salvation that we keep the law (1 John 3:9, 1 John 3:6, 1 John 3:4).

Therefore, if we violate the law, it is a sign that we are not born again of the Holy Spirit.

It is not that we maintain our salvation through law-keeping. It is that our law-keeping is maintained by our salvation.

Because we have the Spirit, we bear the fruit of the Spirit; against which there is no law (Galatians 5:22-23).

Thus there is a righteousness of God that is apart from the law that is nevertheless attested to by the law and the prophets (Romans 3:21); that it is righteousness indeed.

The righteousness of the law is fulfilled in those who walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit (Romans 8:4).

This righteousness is not obtained by seeking to obey a set of do's and don'ts. We fail to violate those do's and don'ts because we have the love of the Lord shed abroad in our hearts; which is the fulfilling of the law (Romans 13:8-10, Galatians 5:14, 1 John 5:3, 2 John 1:6, Romans 8:4).

Blood Bought 1953 said:
It played NO PART in getting Justified before God....Trusting Jesus was the only thing that mattered .....ultimately she “bet on the wrong pony”—-In the End, she put her Trust in herself and in her Performance.....She found out the hard way that Jesus did not need what amounted to a “ Co-Savior”.... she tried to be Justified by something that God said could not Justify.....She was kinda like Cain.....God Said “ this way, but I am going to do it my way.... it’s called Pride and self-Righteousness ....God won’t accept either....

I think that @CharismaticLady has been redeemed by the blood of the Lamb and that this blood has not only justified her (as per Romans 5:9) but also sanctified her (Hebrews 13:12, Hebrews 10:29) and cleanses her from all sin (1 John 1:7) so that she does not sin for the most part. If she does sin, she has an advocate with the Father (1 John 2:1). But the fact that she is born again of the Holy Spirit means that, though it may be hyperbole, she does not and cannot sin (1 John 3:9).

It is not that she is trusting in her flesh to maintain her sinlessness. For I believe that she is trusting wholly in the Cross.

Because she abides in Christ (John 15:1-8) she sinneth not (1 John 3:6) for evermore (1 John 2:17).

One cannot abide in Christ apart from trusting in the Cross as being the means of redemption.

Again, the blood of Jesus doesn't only justify (as per Romans 5:9). It also sanctifies (Hebrews 13:12, Hebrews 10:29) and cleanses us from all sin (1 John 1:7).

Is it possible that it can do the one thing (justify) when it is applied; and also not do the other (sanctify and cleanse)?

I would suggest to you that you answer this question.

BloodBought 1953 · Oct 21, 2020

CharismaticLady said:
Unfortunately, I can't think of a denomination, except some Methodists, that can teach you the truth.

Thank God, many former Methodists, like myself have become Saved “despite” the teachings of the Church....not much different than Catholicism in that regard ....it’s all “Jesus Saves , But once you know “ that” you have to make yourself “ Worthy” to go to Heaven —— Jesus is Essential, He just ain’t Adequate .You gotta do your part by being” good enough”

BloodBought 1953 · Oct 21, 2020

justbyfaith said:
I will take the narrow path of obeying the Lord. The path in which I dig deep and lay a foundation of obedience; so that when the storms of life come, my house will stand (Matthew 7:24-27, Luke 6:46-49)...

That Narrow Path is reserved for those that Believe the Song that you have sung a hundred times without thinking of the Words that accompany it .....if you did sing it, and you awoke from your stupor and actually realized the words you were singing—- you would be repelled and hopefully you would acquire the guts to do the right thing—- rip it from your hymnal!
Btw.....that song is “ NOTHING but the BLOOD of JESUS”......

justbyfaith · Oct 21, 2020

Blood Bought 1953 said:
Thank God, many former Methodists, like myself have become Saved “despite” the teachings of the Church....not much different than Catholicism in that regard ....it’s all “Jesus Saves , But once you know “ that” you have to make yourself “ Worthy” to go to Heaven —— Jesus is Essential, He just ain’t Adequate .You gotta do your part by being” good enough”

Jesus makes you good enough (Hebrews 13:12, Hebrews 10:29, 1 John 1:7) by applying His precious blood.

Blood Bought 1953 said:
That Narrow Path is reserved for those that Believe the Song that you have sung a hundred times without thinking of the Words that accompany it .....if you did sing it, and you awoke from your stupor and actually realized the words you were singing—- you would be repelled and hopefully you would acquire the guts to do the right thing—- rip it from your hymnal!
Btw.....that song is “ NOTHING but the BLOOD of JESUS”......

The blood of Jesus does not only justify a man (as per Romans 5:9).

It also sanctifies (Hebrews 13:12, Hebrews 10:29) and cleanses us from all sin (1 John 1:7).

The end result of this is that the one who is born of God "doth not" and "cannot" commit sin (1 John 3:9)...

And also, the one who abideth in Him sinneth not (1 John 3:6) for ever (1 John 2:17).

BloodBought 1953 · Oct 21, 2020

justbyfaith said:
Jesus came to save us from our sins (Matthew 1:21).

Jesus came to save us from our sins (Matthew 1:21).

If you want to believe that you can go to heaven apart from repenting of your sins, be my guest...

I will take the narrow path of obeying the Lord. The path in which I dig deep and lay a foundation of obedience; so that when the storms of life come, my house will stand (Matthew 7:24-27, Luke 6:46-49)...

That is so preposterous as to not even dignify a response.

But I will say this: Jesus' purpose in coming into the world was to save us from our sins (Matthew 1:21).

You can say you believe in Jesus; but if you do not go by His teachings how can you say that you believe in Him (see James 1:22-25)?

I have said it before and I will say it again (because you did not respond the first time):

It is the result of a real salvation that we keep the law (1 John 3:9, 1 John 3:6, 1 John 3:4).

Therefore, if we violate the law, it is a sign that we are not born again of the Holy Spirit.

It is not that we maintain our salvation through law-keeping. It is that our law-keeping is maintained by our salvation.

Because we have the Spirit, we bear the fruit of the Spirit; against which there is no law (Galatians 5:22-23).

Thus there is a righteousness of God that is apart from the law that is nevertheless attested to by the law and the prophets (Romans 3:21); that it is righteousness indeed.

The righteousness of the law is fulfilled in those who walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit (Romans 8:4).

This righteousness is not obtained by seeking to obey a set of do's and don'ts. We fail to violate those do's and don'ts because we have the love of the Lord shed abroad in our hearts; which is the fulfilling of the law (Romans 13:8-10, Galatians 5:14, 1 John 5:3, 2 John 1:6, Romans 8:4).

I think that @CharismaticLady has been redeemed by the blood of the Lamb and that this blood has not only justified her (as per Romans 5:9) but also sanctified her (Hebrews 13:12, Hebrews 10:29) and cleanses her from all sin (1 John 1:7) so that she does not sin for the most part. If she does sin, she has an advocate with the Father (1 John 2:1). But the fact that she is born again of the Holy Spirit means that, though it may be hyperbole, she does not and cannot sin (1 John 3:9).

It is not that she is trusting in her flesh to maintain her sinlessness. For I believe that she is trusting wholly in the Cross.

Because she abides in Christ (John 15:1-8) she sinneth not (1 John 3:6) for evermore (1 John 2:17).

One cannot abide in Christ apart from trusting in the Cross as being the means of redemption.

Again, the blood of Jesus doesn't only justify (as per Romans 5:9). It also sanctifies (Hebrews 13:12, Hebrews 10:29) and cleanses us from all sin (1 John 1:7).

Is it possible that it can do the one thing (justify) when it is applied; and also not do the other (sanctify and cleanse)?

I would suggest to you that you answer this question.

....if you believe that giving up sinning is the Plan to get to heaven....you are Damned ....
That is so preposterous as to not even dignify a response.

Really ? Getting “Born Again” is the Mandatory Plan for Salvation , according to Jesus. When we put our Complete Trust in Him and His Finished Work Of The Cross , Plus NOTHING to Save us, He will put His Holy Spirit in us as Promised, and that Spirit will give us a New Heart, That given time, will TRANSFORM us Inwardly into the very image of Christ. It’s that “ inside of the cup” thingy you May have heard about.....You don’t have fear and will-Power any longer as your motivation to “ stop sinning”
I never have to rely on a conscience effort to irradicate the Sin from my life .....When you realize that because of your Faith in Jesus that you are “already Saved, and can NEVER come under Condemnation” ( a Promise from Jesus - you either Trust it or you don’t ) .....this spurs a Gratitude and Love for God which in turn spurs the only type of Obedience that God is interested in.....an Obedience that comes from your New Heart ....like all things “ Spirit Driven”, you Will FIND YOURSELF doing the things that please God......Without YOU trying so hard.....it comes natural as the appeal of sinning just kinda melts away ......Sinning has the same “allure” as a Drano Enema.....Now , who wants “that” in their life?
Remember this if nothing else.... LOVE for GOD is the ENGINE that Drives Obedience.....until you REST in Paul’s Gospel Of Grace Plus NOTHING , you will NEVER Love God and your “obedience” will be an Elusive Chore. That was NEVER God's intention.
To “ Repent” means to “ change your mind” ( metanoia). You and many others here need to “ repent” from “Trying” to be Saved , To “ Trusting” to be Saved.....Obedience is great, but it does not save .One has to REST in the Gospel Found In 1cor15:1-4 to get Saved.....do that and obedience will follow—— you are putting the Cart before the Horse. You need to “ change your mind” about how one gets Saved. In other words— REPENT!

justbyfaith · Oct 21, 2020

Blood Bought 1953 said:
....if you believe that giving up sinning is the Plan to get to heaven....you are Damned ....
That is so preposterous as to not even dignify a response.

Really ? Getting “Born Again” is the Mandatory Plan for Salvation ,

To be born again, one must repent of sin.

Because God is not going to cause you to walk in obedience against your will...therefore you must turn from your sin in order that you might be born of God (see 1 John 3:9)...thus it will be true of you that you "doth not" and "cannot" commit sin (1 John 3:9).

Blood Bought 1953 said:
Remember this if nothing else.... LOVE for GOD is the ENGINE that Drives Obedience...

That is exactly what I preach (through such passages as Luke 7:36-50, 1 John 4:19, and Romans 5:5).

In my own life, I fell in love with the Lord after He motivated me to repent of my sins. When I repented, the love of the Lord flooded in.

Blood Bought 1953 said:
You and many others here need to “ repent” from “Trying” to be Saved , To “ Trusting” to be Saved.....Obedience is great, but it does not save .

Right. However, when a man is saved, he will become obedient as the result of the salvation that has been given to him.

This, to me, means that those who are disobedient, their salvation is in question. I suppose that the Lord knows their hearts.

Blood Bought 1953 said:
One has to REST in the Gospel Found In 1cor15:1-4 to get Saved.....

I do.

Blood Bought 1953 said:
—— you are putting the Cart before the Horse. You need to “ change your mind” about how one gets Saved. In other words— REPENT!

I am not going to repent of my repentance (see 2 Corinthians 7:10) to begin to believe that living holy is not something that the Lord desires of me as a believer in Him.

I do believe that Ezekiel 33:12-20 tells me that if I sin after I have received the righteousness of the Lord, that I may very well die in that sin. It specifically speaks of trusting to my righteousness and committing iniquity; and from my perspective this may even be speaking of trusting that righteousness is imputed to me and then taking that grace for granted and sinning against it.

If I am "made righteous" (Romans 5:19) by the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ; but then trust to that righteousness and commit iniquity, I could actually be in trouble on my day of judgment (see Ezekiel 33:12-13, Ezekiel 33:18) or even before...it could mean my spiritual death (see also James 1:14-16).

Earburner · Oct 21, 2020

justbyfaith said:
1. Someone who repents towards God, but does not repent away from sin, is not saved.

2. For the nature of salvation is that Jesus came to save us from our sins (Matthew 1:21).

3. Therefore salvation is from sin; and if we are not saved from our sins, we are not saved.

1. Please let us know when it will be that you are sin-free in your flesh, and then we all can agree that you are saved.
But, if you are NOT sin-free, then you will not comment or reply about your current status in Him, as being saved from comitting sin in your flesh.

2. That is all well and good, IF "the divine nature" of His Being dwells WITHIN you.
Romans 8:8-9; 2 Peter 1:4; Revelation 3:20
However, one must come to the understanding, that ONLY by faith in His Blood are we made to be sin-less, but as long as we are in this tabernacle of flesh and blood, we are never sin-free.
Therefore, His goal is not that He shall make us to be sin-free now, but rather to save us from eternal death. THAT is how He shall save us from our sins.

3. So then, since you are NOT sin-free, by your conclusion at the moment, you perceive yourself to be unsaved!
Why? Don't you believe and trust in the sacrificial work of Jesus?
Apparently you don't!

charity · Oct 21, 2020

CharismaticLady said:
Hi C,
Can you give me some scriptures that say we have both a born again nature AND the old nature?

Hello @CharismaticLady,

The nature we were born with is referred to by different names in Scripture, as you will know.

a) The Flesh - (John 3:6, Romans 8:8)
b) The Natural Man - (1 Corinthians 2:14; 1 Corinthians 2:10)
c) The Old Man - (Ephesians 4:22)
d) The Outward Man - (2 Corinthians 4:16)
e) The Heart - (Jeremiah 17:9; Matthew 15:19)
f) The Carnal Mind - (Romans 8:7-8; Genesis 6:5)
g) Sin - (Romans 5:12-8:39)

* I believe that these Scriptures, within their context, will be sufficient to show the presence within the believer, not only the new nature, divinely given when born from above, but also the presence of the old sinful nature which is so much part of the flesh he was born with.

* Romans chapter seven illustrates the conflict between the two.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

charity · Oct 21, 2020

CharismaticLady said:
Abraham was way before the Law and way before Jesus. Of course, his righteousness was "imputed" because it is only through Jesus that mankind can ever really be truly righteous.

(James 2:19-26)
(Romans 4:6-12)
(Romans 4:13-25)

Hello @CharismaticLady,

Your response appears to indicate that your understanding of the word, 'imputed', differs from my own. I believe that the word, 'imputed', means to reckon, or attribute to. God imputed, or reckoned Abraham to be righteous, on the basis of the fact that he believed God. So with the believer in the Lord Jesus Christ, God imputes or reckons him to be righteous because he believes the gospel of God concerning His Son.

* It is not a matter of the believer himself being righteous, but that he is 'reckoned' so in the sight of God. Righteousness is a gift of God given on the basis of faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.

'For if by one man's offence death reigned by one;
much more they which receive abundance of grace
and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation;
even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.'
(Rom 5:17)

* This free gift (of the imputation of rightousness) came upon 'all' men, in that it is available to all, but not all receive it, because not all will believe in the Lord Jesus Christ as their Saviour and Lord.

Thank you.
In Christ Jesus
Chris

charity · Oct 21, 2020

Hello again, @CharismaticLady,

It is on the basis of the imputation of righteousness that it can be said of the believer in Ephesians chapter one:-

'Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
Who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
According as He hath chosen us in Him before the foundation of the world,
that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love:
Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to Himself,
according to the good pleasure of His will,
To the praise of the glory of His grace,
wherein He hath made us accepted in the Beloved.
In whom we have redemption through His blood,
the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of His grace;
Wherein He hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence; ... '
(Ephesians 1:3-8)

* It has been done!

Praise God!

Within the love of Christ
our risen and glorified
Saviour, Lord and Head.
Chris

ChristisGod · Oct 21, 2020

CharismaticLady said:
All the allowance of carnality in the church. 1 Corinthians 5:11 But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person.

Especially a man who was having sex with his father's wife.

Those who are born again of the Spirit cannot tolerate sin.

and it still doesn't make the person who sinned not saved, remove the leaven. if they are truly saved they will repent of their sin and return just like in this case. Jesus taught the same thing in Matthew 18

“If your brother or sister sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. 16 But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ 17 If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.18 “Truly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.19 “Again, truly I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything they ask for, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. 20 For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.”

hope this helps !!!

CharismaticLady · Oct 21, 2020

Nancy said:
"Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God's law, but in my sinful nature a slave to the law of sin."

All you have to do is keep reading 2 more verses.

2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me FREE from the law of sin and death.

Romans 7 is the conclusion on Paul's teaching on the law of Moses. And he has already told us that we are no longer under the law. But he wants to clarify that the law was HOLY. It was us whose nature loved sin. Our nature is what needed changing, because otherwise it was a complete struggle of Romans 7:14-25. Remember in the last chapter Paul said, "14 For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace." (Grace is the power of God). Now the law is written on our hearts by the Spirit so that the righteous requirements are kept by us through walking in the Spirit. We are born again. That is why Romans 8:9 says we are NOT IN THE FLESH (old carnal nature) but in the Spirit, if the Spirit of God indwells us. Those who do not have the Spirit of Christ do not belong to Him.

CharismaticLady · Oct 21, 2020

Christophany said:
So Paul was addressing the one sin and the person repented because of Pauls instruction in 1 cor proving he was saved.

Did you even read my post? One sin? Come on!

CharismaticLady · Oct 21, 2020

Blood Bought 1953 said:
Thank God, many former Methodists, like myself have become Saved “despite” the teachings of the Church....not much different than Catholicism in that regard ....it’s all “Jesus Saves , But once you know “ that” you have to make yourself “ Worthy” to go to Heaven —— Jesus is Essential, He just ain’t Adequate .You gotta do your part by being” good enough”

You still don't get it. Maybe this will help. Jesus used parables, maybe this is the only way you can see.

1 John 3:9 is not practicing sin, but committing. That is not even one time. Here is my analogy of what it is like when our carnal nature is baptized in the Holy Spirit and born again: "It is like being born with the nature of a lion, loving to kill, and having only a taste for blood and fresh meat. But the law says to not kill and only eat grass. Then that lion becomes born again into a divine new creature, a lamb. The lamb never desires to kill and loves to only eat fresh green grass. Therefore that law to not kill and eat only grass is very easy for the lamb, but impossible for the lion." You see, the lamb couldn't kill and eat meat and blood even once. It has no desire to. It is not in their nature. We do what comes naturally: either that of a lion, or that of a lamb. You can’t be both.

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