I'm sorry, you are being incredibly disrespectful here. I feel like you're not interested in being respectful either.
Commitment Over Marriage
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How is he being disrespectful? I would message him if I could to tell him the truth because he's already earned TONS of respect from me.
Well, I hope that you're right, CR, about her being in an extenuating circumstance, but, I'm skeptical. Is her situation so unique that you just can't come out and tell her to stop having illicit sex, and offending God? She posed the question on a public forum, because obviously she was conflicted. Now, why in the world won't she heed anyone's advice, or even rebuttal with a sound defense (it doesn't have to be personal). I've only heard her tell everyone to back-off. Is sex so important that she just can't wait, since when? Will there be repercussion if they both abstain - where's the argument in favour of her position?
Jacob waited 7rs for Rachel.
You only state that because he agree with your view.
He's not holding any respect for other views.
I don't believe marriage equates to "just a piece of paper". Rather, I stated that marriage pre-dates governments. It is EXTREMEL:Y important, and not to be treated as "just a piece of paper". There is MUCH more to marriage than paper and sex.
You only respect people who are telling you what you want to hear. You posed the question because, hopefully, you had a guilty conscience?
Quit having sex and show some control, or just admit that you're sinning, the both of you. You sound childish making this the be-all and end-all of a relationship.
...there you go, you just said it yourself, you're looking for approval and nothing more.
I'm beginning to be offended by you, right now!
April,
I'm sorry, but I'm getting extremely frustrated here. I was brash with words earlier, I acknowledged that and apologized to you several times. I respectfully explained my beliefs to you. I haven't once "told you what to do" and turned the other cheek several times. There's no way I could possibly be more respectful here.
@Prayer Warrior @Jane_Doe22 @Rita
Now I'm just beginning to think that there's an ulterior motive here. She's just looking for someone to clear her conscience.
I haven't heard a single sound and mitigating defense for her case, from her, or anyone, outside of 'you don't know the whole situation'.
What's that supposed to mean as far as what's right or wrong is concerned? There are reasons, at times, to not punish severely or at all, but it doesn't mean that the act must not desist.
Her attitude is wrong, she showed it in the OP, to the point that I believe that she's the offensive one, right now.
Now I'm just beginning to think that there's an ulterior motive here. She's just looking for someone to clear her conscience.
I haven't heard a single sound and mitigating defense for her case, from her, or anyone, outside of 'you don't know the whole situation'.
What's that supposed to mean as far as what's right or wrong is concerned? There are reasons, at times, to not punish severely or at all, but it doesn't mean that the act must not desist.
Her attitude is wrong, she showed it in the OP, to the point that I believe that she's the offensive one, right now.
historyb
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I have been thinking about this. Me and my wife had fun before we were married and I wouldn't change anything, both me and her never got to let lose like most kids and when we had a chance we did but we always planned to be wed. Though I don't view the marriage license as just piece of paper, it is a key without which you can be shutout of many things. Like for instance if the worst happens and your guy gets injured by law they will not let you in because your not a spouse, there are other things.
That being said I also know of a couple that if they got he marriage license both their Social Security would go way down, so they went to social security and the guy told them to basically shack up. They both could not do that so they went to a Priest and talked to him and he married them right there. So there are benefits and cost for a marriage license but when your young you should try to get legally married if you can. Hope I didn't sound judgemental
Prayer Warrior
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Well, let’s not judge. We all have to learn that we reap what we sow. Sometimes we learn it the easy way, and sometimes the hard way.
I have been thinking about this. Me and my wife had fun before we were married and I wouldn't change anything, both me and her never got to let lose like most kids and when we had a chance we did but we always planned to be wed. Though I don't view the marriage license as just piece of paper, it is a key without which you can be shutout of many things. Like for instance if the worst happens and your guy gets injured by law they will not let you in because your not a spouse, there are other things.
That being said I also know of a couple that if they got he marriage license both their Social Security would go way down, so they went to social security and the guy told them to basically shack up. They both could not do that so they went to a Priest and talked to him and he married them right there. So there are benefits and cost for a marriage license but when your young you should try to get legally married if you can. Hope I didn't sound judgemental
No you didn't at all actually. It seems like you're somewhat saying what I was saying.
Stating "X is sinful" doesn't equate to a personal attack. Christ called out sin lots of time. For example, the woman caught in adultery was specifically told to go and sin no more".
And we do still love sinners.
Prayer Warrior
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I am sorry but there are reasons as to why I will not be adding much to this thread now. Sometimes we see one piece of a puzzle and presume the whole picture, then we are given other pieces of the puzzle and a whole different picture emerges. I am hardly the right one to form any judgements considering I was pregnant before I got married, in all honesty because I got married I felt that I had put things right. It was years later that I dealt with things, but it was linked to forgiveness and not condemnation.
Rita
Can you at least confirm for me that there is a lot more going on here that they will even begin to understand? As I've been through more than they know.
Waiting on him
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It's not judging PW, it's applying discernment. Jesus did not answer every question directly that was posed to him, because he saw the duplicity behind the motivation. I have absolutely no reason to believe right now, that AR is being sincere about her concern for her fornication. She is espousing her actions at this point by trying to justify them, and nothing more.
She showed her true colours several times now, on this thread. When we make these realizations we are not being judgmental, but understanding who we are actually dealing with, and therefore, how to respond (Proverbs 26:4-5).
Marriage (properly done) IS a sacramental ceremony: a covenant between God+man+woman.
