How Powerful is the Blood of Jesus?

Nancy said:

I can be pretty silly so, don't tempt me!
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@Nancy So who is this...?

Mungo said:

I agree, but since nothing unclean will enter heaven (Rev 21:27), then there must a process of purification after death as I showed in post #25.

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When He returns and or when we resurrect, we WILL be in our glorious bodies, fit for the Kingdom, wearing the proper attire to be allowed into the marriage supper of The Lamb. We will no longer be "unclean", we will come into the fullness of Him IMHO.

"These just men were not perfect when they died but they are now. This shows that there is a way, a process, whereby the spirits of just men can be made perfect after death."

The spirits of these Old Testament men were in the bosom of Abraham, the place where all who looked forward to their messiah were until Christ delivered them to heaven. They looked forward, believing without seeing their promise of their Christ, their Savior. We look back and believe without seeing as well. Christ always was the answer. Then, now and forever, amen!

farouk said:

@Nancy So who is this...?

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Couldn't tell you Farouk, just a silly giffythingy.

CharismaticLady said:

Hmmmm! Dictionary according to Nancy!

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Lol. Trying to catch up with Bbyrd

Nancy said:

When He returns and or when we resurrect, we WILL be in our glorious bodies, fit for the Kingdom, wearing the proper attire to be allowed into the marriage supper of The Lamb. We will no longer be "unclean", we will come into the fullness of Him IMHO.

"These just men were not perfect when they died but they are now. This shows that there is a way, a process, whereby the spirits of just men can be made perfect after death."

The spirits of these Old Testament men were in the bosom of Abraham, the place where all who looked forward to their messiah were until Christ delivered them to heaven. They looked forward, believing without seeing their promise of their Christ, their Savior. We look back and believe without seeing as well. Christ always was the answer. Then, now and forever, amen!

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@Nancy We are cleansed indeed because by His grace we trust in "It is finished" (John 19.30).

brightfame52 said:

Yes. According to Rom 5:19 how were they made righteous?

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Through the obedience of Christ as He lives in them and through them (see Galatians 2:20).

CharismaticLady said:

That is heresy and outside the nature of God. Jesus makes us free from sin, to be able to call us children of God. John 8:34-36

If you sin, you are a sinner.
If Jesus makes you free from all desire to sin supernaturally, you are a child of God.
You are not both.

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No it is the truth. Christ blood has forgiven them and sanctified them and God imputed righteousness to them. This is before they were born!

justbyfaith said:

Through the obedience of Christ as He lives in them and through them (see Galatians 2:20).

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Right they were made righteous by Christ obedience. Christ obedience was before they were born.

CharismaticLady said:

The blood of Jesus is much more powerful than that. You believe it is very weak indeed if you don't know that the blood of Jesus takes away all desire to sin in the present and the future, making it have nothing major to forgive at all. Did Christ sin while on earth? That is how He made us to have the same divine nature that He did, making us brethren in His likeness. Romans 8:29; 1 John 3:5; 2 Peter 1:2-4

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CL, you are not understanding the difference between being made to be sin-LESS, as opossed to our attempts of being sin-FREE.

By the holy (set apart) Blood of Christ's
Sacrifice, He is the Mediator for us, as well as for the Father. Through Him, we are made to be sin-less before the Father.
Iows, the Father required the Sacrificial shed Blood of Jesus as much as we do, for our restoration back to Himself, from the condemnation of eternal death.
Hence the words of John the Baptist: "Behold, the Lamb OF God, that takes away [removes] the sin of the world".

In the moment of our repentance (metanoia) towards the Father, through faith in Christ, we are immediately forgiven of all sins (made to be holy) and are made ready to receive the Gift of His Holy Spirit, which SEALS (saves, secures) us unto the day of redemption. Romans 8:8-9.

The Holy Spirit is the vehicle by which Christ's Righteousness is imputed to us through faith. This is revealed in the parable of the "Pharisee and the Publican" Luke 18:10-14.
From the point of our faith in Christ, for the forgiveness of sin, there is no sin, past, present or future that is not forgiven, except one, the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Matthew 12:31.

However, in this now, our flesh and blood existence, through faith "we have this treasure in earthen vessels", being made to be "partakers of the divine nature" 2 Corinthians 4:7.
A "partaker" is not in the full possession of the Gift offered, but is allowed to "taste" beforehand of that which shall be fully given, which will be in the day of our redemption into the Immortality of His likeness. 2 Peter 1:4; 1 Peter 2:3.

Therefore, the blood of Christ is very powerful. It forgives us of all sin, that is common to man, of which makes us to be righteous by/with God's Righteousness deposited within us, through the vehicle of the Holy Spirit, and not that of the Law. Mark 3:28-29

CharismaticLady said:

What it shows is after death we don't get holier as you implied.

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No it doesn't

The blood is powerful enough to Justify the many! Rom 5:9

Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

Isa 53:11

He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

Mungo said:

No it doesn't

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Yes in the Resurrection sin, satan and death will be done away with permanently. No more sorrow, tears etc..... it will all have passed away.

CharismaticLady said:

1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

1 John 3:5 And you know that He was manifested to take away our sins, and in Him there is no sin.

What does it mean to be cleansed from all unrighteousness? Does that include the desire to sin? Why instead of acknowledging "cleanse" do some believe the blood of Jesus only FORGIVES all unrighteousness, but we will still sin all of our lives, and Jesus cleanses our present and future sins as well as our past sins, but does nothing for the desire to sin. If we believe that Jesus' blood cleanses and forgives our past, present and future sins instead of making us truly born again with a new nature, and free from the desire to sin in the first place presently and in the future, isn't that is a slap in the face of how powerful we believe the blood of Jesus truly is?

Jesus came to make us truly righteous and holy as the Father is perfect. He came to make us like Himself - the first of many brethren. Romans 8:29 "For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren."

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Revelation 12:11 (KJV)
11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony;

CharismaticLady said:

1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

1 John 3:5 And you know that He was manifested to take away our sins, and in Him there is no sin.

What does it mean to be cleansed from all unrighteousness? Does that include the desire to sin? Why instead of acknowledging "cleanse" do some believe the blood of Jesus only FORGIVES all unrighteousness, but we will still sin all of our lives, and Jesus cleanses our present and future sins as well as our past sins, but does nothing for the desire to sin. If we believe that Jesus' blood cleanses and forgives our past, present and future sins instead of making us truly born again with a new nature, and free from the desire to sin in the first place presently and in the future, isn't that is a slap in the face of how powerful we believe the blood of Jesus truly is?

Jesus came to make us truly righteous and holy as the Father is perfect. He came to make us like Himself - the first of many brethren. Romans 8:29 "For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren."

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How is Jesus blood supplied to us? I don't see any blood, so is it spiritually supplied thru the Holy Spirit?

Devin Wintch said:

How is Jesus blood supplied to us? I don't see any blood, so is it spiritually supplied thru the Holy Spirit?

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Romans 3:24-25 (NKJV)
24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith,

kcnalp said:

Romans 3:24-25 (NKJV)
24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith,

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yes indeed its by faith