Are you saved now?

theefaith · Aug 28, 2020

Matt 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Jn 3:16 believes, a perpetual state of believing, present tense, not a one time only past tense “I’m saved” now let’s play golf and get drunk!

theefaith · Sep 17, 2020

1. Romans 11:22 – God’s kindness, if you continue in His kindness

2. Colossians 1:21-23 – holy and blameless, if you continue in the faith"

3. The race of faith: the example of Paul

4. Hebrews 12:22-25: "we shall not escape if we turn away from Him"

5. Hebrews 4:1-3, 9-12: "strive to enter the rest of God"

6.Hebrews 6:4-9 – those who became partakers of the holy spirit and fell away

7. Hebrews 10:23-29, 35-39: "if we sin willfully", "if anyone draws back".

8. Matthew 24:13: He that endures to the end, the same shall be saved

9. Hebrews 3:4-6: Holding fast our confidence firm until the end

10. Matthew 24:13: "But the one who endures to the end will be saved"

11. 1 John 2:24-25 – "if what you heard from the beginning abides in you"

12. 2 John 8-9 : to "everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ

13. 2 Peter 1:5-11 : "Make every effort to supplement your faith"

14. Philippians 2:12-16: "work out your salvation with fear and trembling"

15. 1 Timothy 6:10-16: the love of money

16. Galatians 5:2-4 "Severed from Christ"

17. 2 Timothy 2:11-13: "if we deny him, he will also deny us"

18. James 5:19-20: the wandered brother

19. Some will abandon the faith

20. 1 Timothy 5:8: "he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever"

22. The real family of Jesus: "Those who hear the Word of God and do it"

23. 1 Corinthians 5:5: "so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord"

24. Peter 2: "It would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness"

25. Jude: "Turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness" - a much relevant warning

26. 1 Cor. 9:27 ....Lest I myself might become a castaway

ChristisGod · Sep 18, 2020

Scripture says the following regarding salvation. There is a past aspect, a present aspect and a future aspect to our salvation.

Past
Ephesians 2:8-9
For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.

Present
1 Corinthians 1:18
For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.

Future
Romans 5:9
having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him.

hope this helps!!!

theefaith · Sep 18, 2020

Why do you always everyone always say “I’m saved” only past tense?

that actually refers to justification not salvation thru Mk 16:16 faith and baptism!

ChristisGod · Sep 18, 2020

theefaith said:
Why do you always everyone always say “I’m saved” only past tense?

!

because believers are saved now

theefaith · Sep 18, 2020

How can you be saved? Being saved? Gonna be saved?

Better explanation:

Redemption, Justification, Sanctification, and Salvation!

Redemption: 100 percent the work of God, thru the life, death, resurrection, and ascension of Jesus Christ! All mankind are redeemed in Christ!
Galatians 3:13
Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law...

Justification: our acceptance of redemption thru faith and baptism! Become a disciple and member of Christ and His Church! Mk 16:16 He who believes and is baptized shall be saved.

Sanctification: the life of grace, prayer, virture, and good works, the just living by faith, and faith working thru love!
All done in Christ thru His grace! Jn 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

Salvation: a christian in the state if grace at the moment of death we enter into the salvation of the Lord! Mt 24:44-47 faithful servant! Jn 15:1-5 abide in me. Mt 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

marks · Sep 18, 2020

theefaith said:
Redemption, Justification, Sanctification, and Salvation!

It seems you've left out "reconciliation.

God has reconciled us to Himself, and urges us to be reconciled to Him, in other words, receive the reconciliation. How reconciled are we?

Much love!

theefaith · Sep 18, 2020

Part of justification.

the apostles also have the ministry of reconciliation! 2 cor 5:18

DNB · Oct 29, 2020

theefaith said:
1. Romans 11:22 – God’s kindness, if you continue in His kindness

2. Colossians 1:21-23 – holy and blameless, if you continue in the faith"

3. The race of faith: the example of Paul

4. Hebrews 12:22-25: "we shall not escape if we turn away from Him"

5. Hebrews 4:1-3, 9-12: "strive to enter the rest of God"

6.Hebrews 6:4-9 – those who became partakers of the holy spirit and fell away

7. Hebrews 10:23-29, 35-39: "if we sin willfully", "if anyone draws back".

8. Matthew 24:13: He that endures to the end, the same shall be saved

9. Hebrews 3:4-6: Holding fast our confidence firm until the end

10. Matthew 24:13: "But the one who endures to the end will be saved"

11. 1 John 2:24-25 – "if what you heard from the beginning abides in you"

12. 2 John 8-9 : to "everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ

13. 2 Peter 1:5-11 : "Make every effort to supplement your faith"

14. Philippians 2:12-16: "work out your salvation with fear and trembling"

15. 1 Timothy 6:10-16: the love of money

16. Galatians 5:2-4 "Severed from Christ"

17. 2 Timothy 2:11-13: "if we deny him, he will also deny us"

18. James 5:19-20: the wandered brother

19. Some will abandon the faith

20. 1 Timothy 5:8: "he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever"

22. The real family of Jesus: "Those who hear the Word of God and do it"

23. 1 Corinthians 5:5: "so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord"

24. Peter 2: "It would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness"

25. Jude: "Turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness" - a much relevant warning

26. 1 Cor. 9:27 ....Lest I myself might become a castaway

Good verses! But, you may also want to include these?

Philippians 3:12-14
3:12. Not that I have already obtained it or have already become perfect, but I press on so that I may lay hold of that for which also I was laid hold of by Christ Jesus. 13. Brethren, I do not regard myself as having laid hold of it yet; but one thing I do: forgetting what lies behind and reaching forward to what lies ahead, 14. I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus.

DNB · Oct 29, 2020

Christophany said:
Scripture says the following regarding salvation. There is a past aspect, a present aspect and a future aspect to our salvation.

Past
Ephesians 2:8-9
For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.

Present
1 Corinthians 1:18
For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.

Future
Romans 5:9
having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him.

hope this helps!!!

Yes, but each tense refers to a different principle or aspect of salvation. They only harmonize when we conclude that faith must endure until death, or Christ's return. For, one cannot be both presently and irrevocably saved, while being still in the process of 'being saved' or waiting in order to be saved 'will be saved'.
'Have been saved', past tense, means that the gift has been offered, it refers to God's grace. On the other hand, working towards, or anticipating salvation, refers to man's part in being convicted of both the need of the gift, and the availability of the gift, ...and the requirements in order to receive it - steadfast faith.

Nancy · Oct 29, 2020

theefaith said:
Matt 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Jn 3:16 believes, a perpetual state of believing, present tense, not a one time only past tense “I’m saved” now let’s play golf and get drunk!

Amen. it's a race

"For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God."
1 Cor. 1:18

“And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved.”
Acts 2:47

BreadOfLife · Nov 1, 2020

DNB said:
Yes, but each tense refers to a different principle or aspect of salvation. They only harmonize when we conclude that faith must endure until death, or Christ's return. For, one cannot be both presently and irrevocably saved, while being still in the process of 'being saved' or waiting in order to be saved 'will be saved'.
'Have been saved', past tense, means that the gift has been offered, it refers to God's grace. On the other hand, working towards, or anticipating salvation, refers to man's part in being convicted of both the need of the gift, and the availability of the gift, ...and the requirements in order to receive it - steadfast faith.

That's a very Biblical and Catholic understanding of Salvation.

We continue to be saved as we cooperate with God's saving grace by enduring in faith (Matt. 24:13, 1 Cor. 1:8, 2 Cor. 2:15, 2 Cor. 7:1, Phil. 2:12, Heb. 12:14).

DNB · Nov 1, 2020

BreadOfLife said:
That's a very Biblical and Catholic understanding of Salvation.

We continue to be saved as we cooperate with God's saving grace by enduring in faith (Matt. 24:13, 1 Cor. 1:8, 2 Cor. 2:15, 2 Cor. 7:1, Phil. 2:12, Heb. 12:14).

Like I have said maybe 1,000 times, I adhere to no one denomination, congregation or theologian. I, coincidentally, have convictions from many faiths (all substantiated from the Bible, at least in my mind, first and foremost), which is why I highly denounce anyone who is so exclusive with implicit trust towards a specific denomination, like yourself .

BreadOfLife · Nov 1, 2020

DNB said:
Like I have said maybe 1,000 times, I adhere to no one denomination, congregation or theologian. I, coincidentally, have convictions from many faiths (all substantiated from the Bible, at least in my mind, first and foremost), which is why I highly denounce anyone who is so exclusive with implicit trust towards a specific denomination, like yourself .

What you've ALSO done here, maybe a "1000" time is LIE.

On this and other threads I've exposed you. On another thread, I had to set you straight about history SEVERAL times and even on the difference between the Catholic Church vs. "Roman" Catholic, which doesn't even exist.

DNB · Nov 1, 2020

BreadOfLife said:
What you've ALSO done here, maybe a "1000" time is LIE.

On this and other threads I've exposed you. On another thread, I had to set you straight about history SEVERAL times and even on the difference between the Catholic Church vs. "Roman" Catholic, which doesn't even exist.

I'm not Catholic, Roman Catholic, popish, Western, Byzantine nor vatican. You are possessed by the secular institution called the Roman Catholic Church, which holds its headquarters at St. Peters Basilica in Vatican City - the devil's domain. I hold to no man-made institution or dogma.

BreadOfLife · Nov 1, 2020

DNB said:
I'm not Catholic, Roman Catholic, popish, Western, Byzantine nor vatican. You are possessed by the secular institution called the Roman Catholic Church, which holds its headquarters at St. Peters Basilica in Vatican City - the devil's domain. I hold to no man-made institution or dogma.

And NOBODY said you did,
I said that your posts were filled with LIES. and falsehoods.

Nobody is accusing you of being Catholic . . .

dev553344 · Nov 1, 2020

theefaith said:
Matt 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Jn 3:16 believes, a perpetual state of believing, present tense, not a one time only past tense “I’m saved” now let’s play golf and get drunk!

Well if I could proclaim my own salvation then I must be my own judge, and God has no power to judge us. But in all honesty, I believe only God can say if a person is saved.

But the threat against salvation is death and hell. And the only thing that can deliver us from death and hell is the resurrection and judgment of God. Both are given from God after you die.

So would you swear to God or man that you are saved, or even to the devil? Then this applies:

Matthew 5:34

But I tell you, do not swear an oath at all: either by heaven, for it is God's throne;

DNB · Nov 1, 2020

BreadOfLife said:
And NOBODY said you did,
I said that your posts were filled with LIES. and falsehoods.

Nobody is accusing you of being Catholic . . .

Look BOL, I know that you have a short attention span, but try and follow. I am just saying that no matter what you call it, which you addressed in your previous post, it is not authoritative nor even Christian.

BreadOfLife · Nov 1, 2020

DNB said:
Look BOL, I know that you have a short attention span, but try and follow. I am just saying that no matter what you call it, which you addressed in your previous post, it is not authoritative nor even Christian.

And what did I say that is "not even Christian"?

Marymog · Nov 1, 2020

DNB said:
I'm not Catholic, Roman Catholic, popish, Western, Byzantine nor vatican. You are possessed by the secular institution called the Roman Catholic Church, which holds its headquarters at St. Peters Basilica in Vatican City - the devil's domain. I hold to no man-made institution or dogma.

Hi DNB,

All men come to dogma thru their interpretation of Scripture. You came to dogma via your interpretation of Scripture. Soooo you hold to YOUR man-made dogma.

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