The course of this world

farouk · Oct 29, 2020

amadeus said:
I am no expert in Greek, but sometimes it can be helpful to see the meaning in translation and other places the same word is used.

Moderation, as used in that verse as per Strong's:

ejpieikhvß Epieikes (ep-ee-i-kace');
Word Origin: Greek, Adjective, Strong #: 1933

seemingly, suitable

equitable, fair, mild, gentle

KJV Word Usage and Count
gentle 3
patient 1
moderation 1

Here the same word is used by Paul:

"To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, showing all meekness unto all men." Titus 3:2

It is certainly not equal to the word you cited in Joel:

"Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD your God: for he hath given you the former rain moderately, and he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first month." Joel 2:23

hqdc Ts@daqah (tsed-aw-kaw'); Noun Feminine, Strong #: 6666

justice, righteousness

righteousness (in government)

of judge, ruler, king

of law

of Davidic king Messiah

righteousness (of God's attribute)

righteousness (in a case or cause)

righteousness, truthfulness

righteousness (as ethically right)

righteousness (as vindicated), justification, salvation

of God

prosperity (of people)

righteous acts

KJV Word Usage and Count
righteousness 128
justice 15
right 9
righteous acts 3
moderately 1
righteously 1

@amadeus A good word study there...

farouk · Oct 29, 2020

Ziggy said:
Thank You
gentle, patient, moderate..
Yes definatley a part of my daily bread for today. Amen
HUGS

@Ziggy I've been thinking about Romans 14 lately in terms of moderation and ppl who claim to be offended: if one panders too much to ppl who keep claiming to be offended about all sorts of things, then one is really allowing extremism to dictate the agenda, and not a sense of balanced, Biblical moderation.... (This is how my thoughts have been going, anyway...)

Yan · Oct 29, 2020

Ziggy said:
Oh yeah the emptiness for sure.

But there's a lot of gifts put here for us, while we're waiting.
We got babies, and grandma's and grandpa's, and friends, and coworkers.
We got yummy things like warm bread and butter..
don't forget the popcorn..
Yup, popcorn and Onion rings, and chocolatte mousse, and strawberry shortcake..

Now there's only one true place to find true comfort and joy and peace,
and you got that right, it's with the Lord.
But he didn't keep us here without a whole lot of love and happiness either.
It's when this world's happiness is greater than Jesus' happiness,
Then we need to change the course.

Of course!
The awesome thing is we can have a bit of both.. everthing in moderation.
9 parts Jesus and 1 part of those gifts he gave us here on earth.

Like You
HUGS

Everybody should focus to their own life, he/she should seek what does righteousness life in front of God.

1 Corinthians 7:29-35
29. And I say this, brothers and sisters: The time is short. So then those who have wives should be as those who have none,
30. those with tears like those not weeping, those who rejoice like those not rejoicing, those who buy like those without possessions,
31. those who use the world as though they were not using it to the full. For the present shape of this world is passing away.
32. And I want you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the things of the Lord, how to please the Lord.
33. But a married man is concerned about the things of the world, how to please his wife,
34. and he is divided. An unmarried woman or a virgin is concerned about the things of the Lord, to be holy both in body and spirit. But a married woman is concerned about the things of the world, how to please her husband.
35. I am saying this for your benefit, not to place a limitation on you, but so that without distraction you may give notable and constant service to the Lord.

Many married men or many families these days were shocked of being put into devil temptation, and many of those who lack of faith in Christ ruin their own lives and took the path of destruction into divorce. This was not the purpose of God's love, even Adam & Eve seems forbid by God because they'd divorced (Genesis 3:15).
So, before you get into married make sure you both have a strong commitment to God & know each other shortcoming, treat your husband or wife as the precious gift from the Lord God because God did really hate divorce (Malachi 2:10-16; Mark 10:9).

farouk · Oct 29, 2020

Ziggy said:
Found it in Luke the physician..
why did you call Luke a physician?

@Ziggy Luke is called 'the beloved physician' in Colossians 4.14.

Ziggy · Oct 29, 2020

farouk said:
@Ziggy I've been thinking about Romans 14 lately in terms of moderation and ppl who claim to be offended: if one panders too much to ppl who keep claiming to be offended about all sorts of things, then one is really allowing extremism to dictate the agenda, and not a sense of balanced, Biblical moderation.... (This is how my thoughts have been going, anyway...)

Rom 14:1
Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
Rom 14:2
For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
Rom 14:3
Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.
Rom 14:4
Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

"if one panders too much to ppl who keep claiming to be offended about all sorts of things, then one is really allowing extremism to dictate the agenda, and not a sense of balanced, Biblical moderation"

farouk, could you reword this?
I'm having trouble understanding what you mean.

if one panders... I had to look that up..
Pandering is the act of expressing one's views in accordance with the likes of a group to which one is attempting to appeal.

If someone kisses other peoples butt who claim to be offended about anything under the sun, too much,
then one is really allowing "extremism" to dictate the agenda.

Is that the anything goes as long as you stay my friend.. kind of?

Then thats not being a true friend is it?
Friends are supposed to walk with you and help lift you up when you are down,
or kick the pedestal from under you if you get too high.
People need to rely on other people to tell them the truth when they are wrong.
But it should be done with love and not accusatory..or snottiness comes to mind. stuck up.

I have a question..
My ex mother-in-law loves talking about her sons. She has two and one is my ex.
When she calls me, he always seems to slip in the conversation, and even though I really really rather not
talk about him, I listen and I make general comments, nothing specific. Because she likes talking about her sons.
Now sometimes.. I get _____________ (somebody fill in the word I'm looking for) , because I really don't want to talk about him.
But I don't want to hurt her feelings and tell her that.
What do I do?

Thank You
HUGS

farouk · Oct 29, 2020

Ziggy said:
Rom 14:1
Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
Rom 14:2
For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
Rom 14:3
Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.
Rom 14:4
Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

"if one panders too much to ppl who keep claiming to be offended about all sorts of things, then one is really allowing extremism to dictate the agenda, and not a sense of balanced, Biblical moderation"

farouk, could you reword this?
I'm having trouble understanding what you mean.

if one panders... I had to look that up..
Pandering is the act of expressing one's views in accordance with the likes of a group to which one is attempting to appeal.

If someone kisses other peoples butt who claim to be offended about anything under the sun, too much,
then one is really allowing "extremism" to dictate the agenda.

Is that the anything goes as long as you stay my friend.. kind of?

Then thats not being a true friend is it?
Friends are supposed to walk with you and help lift you up when you are down,
or kick the pedestal from under you if you get too high.
People need to rely on other people to tell them the truth when they are wrong.
But it should be done with love and not accusatory..or snottiness comes to mind. stuck up.

I have a question..
My ex mother-in-law loves talking about her sons. She has two and one is my ex.
When she calls me, he always seems to slip in the conversation, and even though I really really rather not
talk about him, I listen and I make general comments, nothing specific. Because she likes talking about her sons.
Now sometimes.. I get _____________ (somebody fill in the word I'm looking for) , because I really don't want to talk about him.
But I don't want to hurt her feelings and tell her that.
What do I do?

Thank You
HUGS

@Ziggy I see what you mean; I don't have all the answers; patience can be hard sometimes, but necessary also...

I suppose my earlier comment seemed convoluted...

Ziggy · Oct 29, 2020

farouk said:
@Ziggy Luke is called 'the beloved physician' in Colossians 4.14.

There he is

I heard someone break down the Gospels a long time ago.
Matthew had it's certain message, and Mark, Luke, John.
Some reason I remember the idea that Luke was known as the physician because he wrote alot about Jesus' ministery of healing.

You ever just all of a sudden smell something like butterscotch and all of a sudden you have all these memories about,
eating ice cream with butterscotch topping, and how dad used to take you to the sundae shop and and..
Thats like the Bible to me.
Something just all of a sudden smells like Luke and then the physician.. and I don't know why that happens.
It smells good though

Ziggy · Oct 29, 2020

farouk said:
@Ziggy I see what you mean; I don't have all the answers; patience can be hard sometimes, but necessary also...

I suppose my earlier comment seemed convoluted...

I think it's my understanding..

If I had to choose between memorizing the Dictionary or memorizing the Bible,
I would go for the Bible. At least that don't keep changing when people don't like what words used to mean.

Oh wait.. thats called translations..

whatever, you know what I mean..

I do, just trolling ya..

I see that.

Prayer Warrior · Oct 29, 2020

farouk said:
@Ziggy "The course of this world" is a phrase Paul uses in Ephesians 2.... (in contrast with the way of grace and faith).

Good point. It's in Eph 2:2. The following are great verses!

Ephesians 2:1-10
And you were dead in your trespasses and sins, in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest. But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, so that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them.

Ziggy · Oct 29, 2020

Psalm 82
[[A Psalm of Asaph.]]

.
How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.
Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.
Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.
They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.
I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.

all the foundations of the earth are out of course.

the foundations of the earth:
This next verse is from Proverbs 8 and it is Wisdom who is speaking. I was there when:
Pro 8:29
When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:

Foundations: mowcad
foundation
Primitive Root: yacad
To found, fix, establish, lay foundation
(Qal) to found, establish, begin
to fix or seat themselves close together, sit in conclave
to be founded
to establish, appoint, ordain

yaw-sad'; a primitive root; to set (literally or figuratively); intensively, to found; reflexively, to sit down together, i.e. settle, consult:—appoint, take counsel, establish, (lay the, lay for a) found(-ation), instruct, lay, ordain, set

Engineering.. hmm

TRAIN TRACKS!!

God is the Masterbuilder. Wisdom (God's mind) is constructing ... engineering.. building.
It's the blueprint.

All the foundations of the earth are out of course.

Out of order..
somebody was messing with the instruction manual and the pages got all messed up.
Here: How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.

Everything runs by laws. The law of the courses of the planets, the oceans, gravity, seasons,
you name it. Everything.
God gave Moses laws about judging.
And they got off course.

They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness:
all the foundations of the earth are out of course.

God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods

ye have heard it said... but I say..

The course of this world...

Come to set the course straight:
Luk 24:44
And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

Jhn 7:19
Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me?

all the foundations of the earth are out of course.

On These two hang all the law and the prophets.

in the psalms: Chapter 119
the longest chapter in the bible,

Psa 119:97
MEM. O how love I thy law! it is my meditation all the day.

Some people have a hard time with the topic of the law.
I used to struggle with it too.
But if there were no laws, there would only be chaos.
and the Bible says:
1Co 14:33
For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

If they had judged rightly, we would still be on course.
But because they judged unjustly, even the foundation on which we stand... oh my..
I just heard the pledge of alliegence LOL..

We pledge allegience to the "sign" of the United States of America, and to the "foundation"
on which it stands, One Nation, Under God with Liberty and Justice for All.

whataboutthat...

interesting..
all the foundations of the earth are out of course

indeed, indeed.

Hugs

Taken · Oct 30, 2020

The course of this world
OP ^

Reset with Dictation -
without Compliance Option-
without Redress Option-

Reset goal- Ultimate Complete Control.

charity · Oct 30, 2020

Ziggy said in the OP:-
What course is this world on?
And it is THIS world that has a set course.

And you hath He quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world,
according to the prince of the power of the air,
the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh,
fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind;
and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
But God, who is rich in mercy,
for His great love wherewith he loved us,
Even when we were dead in sins,
hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved )
And hath raised us up together,
and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:'
(Ephesians 2:1-6)

Hi Ziggy,

I looked in Strong's concordance and saw that the word, 'course' is Strongs Number G165, and is translated from the Greek word, 'aion' meaning an 'age' or period of time. The age in which we live now, during which Satan reigns as the god of this world, as the prince of the power of the air. This age will come to an end with the second advent of Christ.

I love the words, 'But God', in the passage quoted above. It shouts triumphantly, showing the power of God which delivers and saves those who are in darkness and brings them into the light of the knowledge of God in Christ Jesus, His Beloved Son.

Praise His Holy Name!

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

Ziggy · Oct 30, 2020

charity said:
Hi Ziggy,

I looked in Strong's concordance and saw that the word, 'course' is Strongs Number G165, and is translated from the Greek word, 'aion' meaning an 'age' or period of time. The age in which we live now, during which Satan reigns as the god of this world, as the prince of the power of the air. This age will come to an end with the second advent of Christ.

Oh I learned how to do the Quote thing today..yay!!

It's interesting comparing the Hebrew and the Greek words.
I know neither one. I'm still working on English.
It's like that treasure Jesus talks about, the old and the new.

Mat 13:52
Then said he unto them, Therefore every scribe which is instructed unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure things new and old.

scribes are what? the recorders, translators?
I dunno, let's find out..

ok

Scribe: grammateus
a clerk, scribe, esp.a public servant, secretary, recorder, whose office and influence differed in different states

I wasn't that far off..

Grammar..
In linguistics, grammar is the set of structural rules governing the composition of clauses, phrases and words in a natural language. The term refers also to the study of such rules and this field includes phonology, morphology and syntax, often complemented by phonetics, semantics and pragmatics.

Rules.. see there are laws for everything...

And look at the grammar today will ya? all those slangs, and have you seen the Urban Dictionary?

Don't do it... it is some twisted words in there, that all have their own meanings using the propper grammar and twisting it.
Kinda like setting words on a different course huh?

Yeah kinda.

You can actually see how Satan has twisted everything.
And the people that make this stuff up, used to be called scribes.
I don't think they even have a collage degree

That's the other problem most of them do..

Anywho..

That reminds me of that story about Babel.
How they all was talking and thinking the same..
You mean like that beast in revelation where they all had one mind?

Yeah like that.
And God came down and saw what they was doing and took that tower and scattered it to the winds.
There's a lot to unpack there..

I know, we'll come back another time.
ok.

The whole world is upside down from how God had put it together with Wisdom's help huh?
Well, a lot of it is.
How come we're not upside down too?

Because God has Grace and Mercy on those who try to stay the course. Kind of like Angels walking with ya to keep you on the straight and narrow.
Oh, I see..

And not Just them, but God himself walks with us too to help us keep from falling off those tracks He set the train on.
He sends us out like workers on the railroad trying to keep the train running so when the passengers are ready to board,
the train will be there waiting.

I remember...
I've been working on the railroad, all the live long day.
I've been working on the railroad, just to pass the time away..

are you finished?

never..

Ok let's get back to work..
You forgot something..

Oh your right..

Thank You Chris!
Cya at the next station..

HUGS

charity · Oct 31, 2020

'And you hath He quickened,
who were dead in trespasses and sins;
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world,
according to the prince of the power of the air,
the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past
in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind;
and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.'
(Eph 2:1-3)

Hi @Ziggy,

You are enjoying thinking upon the word, 'course', and it's usage by the Holy Spirit in His word I see. Seeing the way your mind was moving I also looked the word up again, and the first verse I saw was from Judges. It came in a song sung by Deborah, a married woman, who was a prophetess, and a judge over Israel (Judges 4:4), during that period when everyone did what was right in their own eyes (Judges 17:6).

* God raised up judges during this period of time in Israel's history, not only to lead, but to restore back to God the nation who departed so frequently from the Lord. They restored the authority of the law in what was a dangerous time when anarchy and lawlessness abounded. A time rather like today really, when the standards of God's word are being despised and ignored.

* Israel had done evil in the sight of God, and had been taken into captivity by a Canaanite King (Judges 4:1). Deborah's song was sung when they were delivered out of his hand.

* The verse I found was Judges 5:20, 'They fought from heaven; the stars in their courses fought against Sisera.'

* It is strange that I should find myself here with Sisera again, for earlier this week I found myself having to look up the story of how he was killed, because of something said on a programme on the television. Within this song the woman who was responsible for his death is praised, for she played her part in the deliverance of her people (Judges 5:24-27; Judges 4:17-21).

* Your verses referred to in your OP, from Ephesians shows how we who believe on the Lord Jesus Christ were delivered from Satan, and the bondage of sin and death, for we too were at the mercy of the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. We needed deliverance, and it took God's intervention for that to be achieved, in and through the sacrificial work of His Beloved Son.

* Like Deborah a song of thanksgiving should be on our lips constantly, sounding forth the victory that has been achieved on our behalf too, shouldn't it.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

Ziggy · Oct 31, 2020

charity said:
'And you hath He quickened,
who were dead in trespasses and sins;
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world,
according to the prince of the power of the air,
the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past
in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind;
and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.'
(Eph 2:1-3)

Hi @Ziggy,

You are enjoying thinking upon the word, 'course', and it's usage by the Holy Spirit in His word I see. Seeing the way your mind was moving I also looked the word up again, and the first verse I saw was from Judges. It came in a song sung by Deborah, a married woman, who was a prophetess, and a judge over Israel (Judges 4:4), during that period when everyone did what was right in their own eyes (Judges 17:6).

* God raised up judges during this period of time in Israel's history, not only to lead, but to restore back to God the nation who departed so frequently from the Lord. They restored the authority of the law in what was a dangerous time when anarchy and lawlessness abounded. A time rather like today really, when the standards of God's word are being despised and ignored.

* Israel had done evil in the sight of God, and had been taken into captivity by a Canaanite King (Judges 4:1). Deborah's song was sung when they were delivered out of his hand.

* The verse I found was Judges 5:20, 'They fought from heaven; the stars in their courses fought against Sisera.'

* It is strange that I should find myself here with Sisera again, for earlier this week I found myself having to look up the story of how he was killed, because of something said on a programme on the television. Within this song the woman who was responsible for his death is praised, for she played her part in the deliverance of her people (Judges 5:24-27; Judges 4:17-21).

* Your verses referred to in your OP, from Ephesians shows how we who believe on the Lord Jesus Christ were delivered from Satan, and the bondage of sin and death, for we too were at the mercy of the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. We needed deliverance, and it took God's intervention for that to be achieved, in and through the sacrificial work of His Beloved Son.

* Like Deborah a song of thanksgiving should be on our lips constantly, sounding forth the victory that has been achieved on our behalf too, shouldn't it.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

That was Beautiful!
Thank You !!
(you have to watch out for these guys and gals in the bible. I noticed once they get your attention they tend to follow you around.
John the Baptist, he's been around almost every corner I turn some how. I don't know how he knows where I'm going, but he always seems to get there before me. )

I got sidetracked a bit and rode a couple other trains in the forum.
I think.. and this is just what I think,
Jesus came to set things back on course just like Deborah.
We wondered so far from God's grace and mercy, we was on the course of no return.
And for awhile things were looking ok, but they went through some really hard battles.
I don't know my history too well about the crusades and the knight templars and all that.
I know a lot of babes in christ got treated very badly, killed even.

But God is good, he always saves a remnant to carry onward Christian soldier... oh oh..
And there are a remnant to of the original branches clinging to that root, just like us christians.
Somewhere along the line I think the Bible says that some people grab the tail or sleeves of other's jackets,
or pants belts and climb a mountain together.

And that's where the Lion and the Lamb rest together.. I think..

I'm trying to be quiet and talk softly today... we supposed to be resting..
I never did like naps as a kid. My mom said so... looks like she was right.

Thank You Chris!
HUGS

Ronald Nolette · Oct 31, 2020

Ziggy said:
That's a whole meal right there.

What course is this world on?
And it is THIS world that has a set course.

Most of the first references have to do with the armies of Israel and the Priests
in their courses. Like shifts.
I work 1st shift. and there are usually 12 courses. like monthly shifts.
That reminds me of Zachariah who was working in the temple when Gabriel showed up and gave him a message about John.... (hello John)

Found it in Luke the physician..
why did you call Luke a physician?
I don't really know, it just came out like that.
Maybe because Jesus was doing most the healing there?
Could be.
Help me find that course Zechariah was on.
ok

Luk 1:5
There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth.

The course of this world.
So the world has a shift too?
That's an intereting question. I'm thinking course, like a set path though. Like the earth is on a path to..
Like that bridge to nowhere?
HAHA your funny.

Maybe we should look deeper into where or what this course is. some courses are round like horse racing or the Indy 500. Some courses are forwards an backwards.
Well the world does goes round.. What about time, does that go around too, or just backwards and forwards?
I don't know if time goes backwards. We've only learned about marching onward.
Some say there is no turning back the hands of time.
You're prolly right..
Well, I don't know about that. Only God knows until he reveals things to us. Maybe we're not ready for time travel yet.

How about we get back on course?
Ok it's worth a try..

HUGS

the course of this world is simple. It is moving to a total yielding of religion, government and commerce to the antichrist and his forces. God will also insur ethis.

2 Thessalonians 2:9-11
King James Version

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

Its climax will be when the antichrist marshalls what is left of the armed forces of the world to battle against the returning Jesus! He loses of course, but he is going to try to beat the king of Kings and Lord of Lords, just like his daddy the devil has been trying to do since his rebellion.

charity · Oct 31, 2020

'And now, lo, I - bound in the Spirit - go on to Jerusalem,
the things that shall befall me in it not knowing,
save that the Holy Spirit in every city doth testify fully,
saying, that for me bonds and tribulations remain;
but I make account of none of these,
neither do I count my life precious to myself,
so that I finish my course with joy,
and the ministration that I received from the Lord Jesus,
to testify fully the good news of the grace of God.
And now, lo, I have known that no more shall ye see my face,
- ye all among whom I did go preaching the reign of God; ... '
(Act 20:22-25 YLT)

Hello @Ziggy,

Looking at the Scripture above, again with the word, 'course', within it. My mind is seeing this as a set course, upon which each (Paul [above], the 'stars' of Judges 5:20 and the 'world' of Ephesians 2:1-3) are following. Paul's course was not a course of his own making, the stars were set on their course by God Himself, and the world is on a course also, one which God by His foreknowledge has foreseen and recorded in the Scriptures for our learning.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

charity · Oct 31, 2020

'And as John fulfilled his course,
he said, Whom think ye that I am?
I am not he.
But, behold, there cometh one after me,
whose shoes of his feet I am not worthy to loose.'
(Act 13:25)

Yes, Ziggy, John the Baptist, too.

In Christ Jesus
Chris

Ziggy · Oct 31, 2020

Not to derail the thread..
I just had a thought..
You don't ever run out of those do ya?

Not yet.

There is a thread in I forget what catagory, maybe prophecy .. i dunno
And it talks about all the rioting and the divisions and chaos..
And I was thinking,
They closed all the churches. They don't want us to come together, to be able to console each other.
They lock us in our houses or at least prevent us from worshipping together.
So what do people do? They go to forums to find people to talk to and congregate with.
But you know, a lot of people got the world on their shoulders, so they tend to bring those anxieties
into the conversations. Not intentionally, it's just running in the background.
And the powers that be that don't want us being joyful, are probably hoping we will tear eachother up
from the inside. Inside the forums. Making it even harder to reach out, because no one wants to go where
people are (not debating) but personal attacks and arguing.
I don't think anyone intends to, it's just hard to seperate from the cares around you.
Specially if you don't live alone like I do, and have no distractions..
you need to do this, you need to go there..
And we get impatient with each other.

Early evening last night I got to thinking..
mm hmm..

Now I'm not Jewish but I have an online Ministry I go to now and then called the Corner Fringe. And that is a Judeo-Christian Church.
I never been to one in person so I thought I'd check it out, and I feel real comfortable with the Pastor.
Anyways..
I been having that same battle most do about the Sabbath. What day, any day, everyday... for as long as I can remember.
I studied it kind of hard for awhile. I found that God has a purpose for everything and it wasn't time to "figure it out" yet.
Maybe I'll start another thread about where I'm at with that right now. That's a really deep topic and it effects most people different ways.

So last night... I was thinking what can we do to help unite the church rather than divide it like they are trying to do.
Music...
A place to just sit and relax and enjoy.
A "Hiding Place" away from all the distractions..
Then it hit me... like a hammer even..

God's Sabbath is our hiding place.
And so I wanted to create a place we could all hide together,
Kind of like that upper room the Apostles was hiding in.

So.. that thought I just had..
we have to overcome the world. Not with violence but with love.
We need to stick together and not rend it apart.
I see what they are doing. That devil is sneaky. And will use whatever and wherever to divide people
from coming together.
I don't want to give him that opportunity if I can help it, if we can help it.
For most of us, this is all we got. A monitor with people we can't see, we can't talk to face to face, we can't hug

So I started the Shabbat Shalom thread as a place we can find solace and comfort when it gets rough.
Please add to it, make it grow. Every voice every genre every type of music is welcome.
A place we can all share together .. In HIM.

I just wanted to share my thoughts and concerns.
I'm just one speck of sand in an ocean..
And we all together are those waters of many peoples nations and tongues,
who stand before the Lord and cry HOLY, HOLY, HOLY!

GOD BLESS YOU ALL
MY FRIENDS.
HUGS

Are you going to get back on course now?

I'll do my best..

Ziggy · Oct 31, 2020

Ziggy said:
Not to derail the thread..
I just had a thought..
You don't ever run out of those do ya?
Not yet.

There is a thread in I forget what catagory, maybe prophecy .. i dunno
And it talks about all the rioting and the divisions and chaos..
And I was thinking,
They closed all the churches. They don't want us to come together, to be able to console each other.
They lock us in our houses or at least prevent us from worshipping together.
So what do people do? They go to forums to find people to talk to and congregate with.
But you know, a lot of people got the world on their shoulders, so they tend to bring those anxieties
into the conversations. Not intentionally, it's just running in the background.
And the powers that be that don't want us being joyful, are probably hoping we will tear eachother up
from the inside. Inside the forums. Making it even harder to reach out, because no one wants to go where
people are (not debating) but personal attacks and arguing.
I don't think anyone intends to, it's just hard to seperate from the cares around you.
Specially if you don't live alone like I do, and have no distractions..
you need to do this, you need to go there..
And we get impatient with each other.

Early evening last night I got to thinking..
mm hmm..

Now I'm not Jewish but I have an online Ministry I go to now and then called the Corner Fringe. And that is a Judeo-Christian Church.
I never been to one in person so I thought I'd check it out, and I feel real comfortable with the Pastor.
Anyways..
I been having that same battle most do about the Sabbath. What day, any day, everyday... for as long as I can remember.
I studied it kind of hard for awhile. I found that God has a purpose for everything and it wasn't time to "figure it out" yet.
Maybe I'll start another thread about where I'm at with that right now. That's a really deep topic and it effects most people different ways.

So last night... I was thinking what can we do to help unite the church rather than divide it like they are trying to do.
Music...
A place to just sit and relax and enjoy.
A "Hiding Place" away from all the distractions..
Then it hit me... like a hammer even..
God's Sabbath is our hiding place.
And so I wanted to create a place we could all hide together,
Kind of like that upper room the Apostles was hiding in.

So.. that thought I just had..
we have to overcome the world. Not with violence but with love.
We need to stick together and not rend it apart.
I see what they are doing. That devil is sneaky. And will use whatever and wherever to divide people
from coming together.
I don't want to give him that opportunity if I can help it, if we can help it.
For most of us, this is all we got. A monitor with people we can't see, we can't talk to face to face, we can't hug

So I started the Shabbat Shalom thread as a place we can find solace and comfort when it gets rough.
Please add to it, make it grow. Every voice every genre every type of music is welcome.
A place we can all share together .. In HIM.

I just wanted to share my thoughts and concerns.
I'm just one speck of sand in an ocean..
And we all together are those waters of many peoples nations and tongues,
who stand before the Lord and cry HOLY, HOLY, HOLY!

GOD BLESS YOU ALL
MY FRIENDS.
HUGS

Are you going to get back on course now?
I'll do my best..

There is another Thread with all music too. I didn't do anything special that wasn't already here.
I just added to it..
I don't think we could ever run out of music for the Lord.
and poetry, and poems, and psalms.. and.. and..
it's all good

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