what happend with adam and eve
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101G
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addressing the OP only, in what way? spiritually or physically.
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Ziggy
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We're still here.
Adam.. Man.. earthy
Eve.. Mother of all Living.. came from Man.. I believe she is the spirit of man.
Out of Adam's whole family, only Noah was saved and his family.
But he still came from Adam.
And then there was Abraham, a grandson of generations of Noah,
And Sarah who was his wife. And Sarah is the mother of the promise of the Spirit of God.
That would be Isaac. who was by promise. And Ishmael still has Eve's spirit of man.
And We humans are still the prodigy of Adam and Eve..
with a promise by faith through Abraham that we will inherit the Spirit of God.
In a nut shell..
We're still here though.. for now..
HUGS
IMHO
They showed how utterly defiant and oblivious that a creature can be, despite being created in the image of God. One of the reasons that the Tree of Knowledge was forbidden, was that it revealed the propensity in all humans to allow the compulsions of the flesh to override those of the spirit. How easily were they dissuaded to obey God, and to succumb to the temporal and insidious allurements of both a superficial and glamorous object.
Thus, we were given the warning by the 3rd chapter of Genesis.
Thus, we were given the warning by the 3rd chapter of Genesis.
nope, not at all.
here the serpent test Eve's knowledge of exactly what God said:
Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
but God said:
Gen 2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
note the serpent's wording not the same as a quote. and then she says:
Gen 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
which again isn't a word for word quote of what God said of which the serpent interprets the Word of God for her knowing she is ignorant of the truth:
Gen 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
Gen 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
see God is the Creator and Judge of all things therefore the Judge of what is good and evil for all thing no exceptions. the thing is they being made in God's image and likeness they were like unto God, but the serpent made her see otherwise because they were not made to judge what is good and evil, distracting from the fast that man is to execute God's Judgements in the earth, as Jesus fulfilled according to His Father's Judgement not according to His own.
the garden as much as people think to do good by teaching that its a lesson of sorts, its not. its a matter of fact events that left the sons of Adam with a life of dust to dust and not the Life given Adam in the first place that they die of the day they ate. hence the second Adam (Jesus) as described by Paul that has restored that Life and more to the faithful.
Nope, not at all, you need to appreciate the sentence that God handed down upon them. Their act was entirely egregious, as it is stated what Eve's desire were, ...it wasn't confusion but an enticement towards the superficial. Yes, the serpent deceived them, but God never excused temptation, but held that all who succumb to it, will suffer consequence and punishment.
you should understand that you received the life and the nature of the man, Adam, when you came into the world which is condemned already, so why re-condemn what is condemned. so the life you have in the flesh is just as dirty and filthy and guilty as A&E's in God's sight.
A&E were made in God's likeness and image of which they were not after the fall, they died of that life. and you didn't receive God's likeness and image when you were born into the world. it is restored to the faithful through and in Christ Jesus.
and if you make the one mistake of stepping in front of a speeding bus, you're dead because that is the life you have received in the earth. the life they received (A&E) is according to the instructions to live it, in God's Word. now man has a life in the flesh like an animal of dust to dust. and animals are not bound to God's Word for instructions to live the life they have. they are not in Covenant with Him as man is. man has life of the flesh but yet God still made covenants with men to accomplish the Christ He promised in Gen 3:15.
also it wasn't punishment, it was mercy. for one God wasn't required to let them continue to be. He could have started over with another. and the sweat of the brow according to scripture was for man's sake. its strange that you see mercy as punishment.
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Man was created in God's image, and that is an intrinsic and irrevocable, ontological fact. This is why the Levitical Law had about 20 capital crimes, and several hundred moral laws - because man was capable of obeying them.
Genesis 5:3 When Adam had lived one hundred and thirty years, he became the father of a son in his own likeness, according to his image, and named him Seth.
Genesis 9:6 "Whoever sheds man's blood, By man his blood shall be shed, For in the image of God He made man.
Genesis 6:8 But Noah found favor in the eyes of the LORD.
Genesis 18:23 Abraham came near and said, "Will You indeed sweep away the righteous with the wicked? (God spared Lot for this reason)
Genesis 19:29 Thus it came about, when God destroyed the cities of the valley, that God remembered Abraham, and sent Lot out of the midst of the overthrow, when He overthrew the cities in which Lot lived.
Genesis 6:9 These are the records of the generations of Noah. Noah was a righteous man, blameless in his time; Noah walked with God.
Ezekiel 14:14 even though these three men, Noah, Daniel and Job were in its midst, by their own righteousness they could only deliver themselves," declares the Lord GOD.
Brakelite
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Eve was tempted to become like God. Yet she was already like God. She was told she wouldn't die, and her descendants still believe they are immortal. The devil convinced her that God was holding out on her. That He was withholding something that was to her benefit. And her descendants are still confused as to how generous and self sacrificing God truly is. So Eve was deceived.
Adam was just stupid in love with his woman. He could have put a stop to the whole thing. Said " hey missus, NO. Throw that orange away right now, and tell that l lizard to take a hike."
God would then have scolded Eve, informed her of the truth, she would have been embarrassed and ashamed but forgiven. Adam would have got his wife back and they and us would have lived happily ever after.
Maybe.
Adam was just stupid in love with his woman. He could have put a stop to the whole thing. Said " hey missus, NO. Throw that orange away right now, and tell that l lizard to take a hike."
God would then have scolded Eve, informed her of the truth, she would have been embarrassed and ashamed but forgiven. Adam would have got his wife back and they and us would have lived happily ever after.
Maybe.
I don't know backlit, isn't it more correct to say that Eve had felt somewhat neglected by Adam, as he seemed to spend more time with the animals than her, having to name each and everyone of them day after day. So, in an act of frustration, she courted the attention that the snake was giving her, while protracting the dialogue to a longer degree than it should have been, in order to make Adam jealous. But, in doing so, she failed to realize with whom she was engaging, and naively succumbed to the intoxication of his wiles. Thus before she could realize that she had been had, she indulged in the lure of persimmon, even enticing her absentee husband to do the same?
Why have you given no OP to explain your subject heading @Holy999, 'What happened with Adam and Eve'? For there is much that could be said concerning Adam and Eve, God's handling of the situation that occurred and it's outcome. What is it that you want to know?
In Christ Jesus
Chris
Hi @Ziggy,
Yes, we provide living evidence of what happened to Adam and Eve, in that we exist.
Good point.You say, ('I believe she is the spirit of man.') This is not what is written in God's Word, so I cannot agree with this.
In Christ Jesus
Chris
of all the quotes you have here only one Gen 9:6 mentions image of God and none say likeness of God. and note it says "For in the image of God He made man" not man is in God's image or likeness. things changed for man when they ate at the garden and that is what they died of, that Life of being in God's image and likeness take note to what is said of the son of Adam of which the blood line is documented to Noah:
Gen 5:1 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
Gen 5:2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
now after the garden:
Gen 5:3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:
doesn't say God's image does it, and why say in Adam's image, if like your line of thinking, God image is assumed?
there's no argument that God made the man in His own image and likeness but Cain wasn't in God's image was he? or are you saying the wicked are in God's image? the son's of man are in man's image and likeness.
of man like man for one has the life of man. of God like God for one is has the Life the is of God, in which is Christ Jesus.
'And God said,
Let us make man
.. in our image, after our likeness:
and let them have dominion
.. over the fish of the sea,
.... and over the fowl of the air,
...... and over the cattle,
........ and over all the earth,
.......... and over every creeping thing
............ that creepeth upon the earth.'
(Gen 1:26)
Hello @DPMartin,
Adam was made in the image of God, though that image was subsequently marred through sin. It is yet to be restored in resurrection, as Romans 8.29 reveals: “For whom He did foreknow, He also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of His Son.'
Praise God!
In Christ Jesus
Chris
Let us make man
.. in our image, after our likeness:
and let them have dominion
.. over the fish of the sea,
.... and over the fowl of the air,
...... and over the cattle,
........ and over all the earth,
.......... and over every creeping thing
............ that creepeth upon the earth.'
(Gen 1:26)
Hello @DPMartin,
Adam was made in the image of God, though that image was subsequently marred through sin. It is yet to be restored in resurrection, as Romans 8.29 reveals: “For whom He did foreknow, He also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of His Son.'
Praise God!
In Christ Jesus
Chris
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marred is a polite way for saying died of, that is the Life they died of that day they ate of the tree and were left with dust to dust via God's Mercy. but you are correct about Jesus restoring that Life in the image and likeness of God to the faithful. it is what Enoch hoped for Noah hoped for and Abraham believed and trusted God for. the desire to be restored to God, in the Life Adam and Eve had that day they were made, is all hope and faith the bible is about in a nut shell.
everything the Lord our God did to bring us into His Presence in His Peace is the only thing that has been done that will remain.
God was establishing an ordinance that whosever commits homicide, he himself shay be killed, because of his being in the image of God. So yes, the context is stipulating the grounds for life for a life, because currently and perpetually, man has been created in the image of God. It is an ontological fact that cannot be altered. No where in the narrative of the Fall, does pronounce a change in man's image.
All the other passages that I quoted, were meant to demonstrate the righteous of certain men that God was pleased with. Thus, men has never lost the capacity to know right from wrong, and to beg=have accordingly, irrespective of the majority (many are called, few chosen)
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