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That is why I’m not disputing but agree. Only suggested ‘did Job not see His redeemer lives’ ? In my ears had heard of thee but now my eye has seen you’?

not disputing hope. only question what body do we hope to be given? 1 Corinthians 15:38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.

1 Corinthians 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.


Philippians 3:21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
^ 1 Corinthians 15:49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. (that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body,)

James 1:9-11 Let the brother of low degree rejoice in that he is exalted: [10] But the rich, in that he is made low: because as the flower of the grass he shall pass away. [11] For the sun is no sooner risen with a burning heat, but it withereth the grass, and the flower thereof falleth, and the grace of the fashion of it perisheth: so also shall the rich man fade away in his ways.

1 Corinthians 15:38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.

1 Corinthians 15:40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.

^ 1 Corinthians 15:49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. (that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body,)

1 Peter 1:23-25 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. [24] For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: [25] But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.

What is ‘raised up a spiritual body’? How many members?
@VictoryinJesus One could say both the justified in the OT and the church in the NT.
 

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I just read this verse:
Job 1:4
And his sons went and feasted in their houses, every one his day; and sent and called for their three sisters to eat and to drink with them.
Job 1:5
And it was so, when the days of their feasting were gone about, that Job sent and sanctified them, and rose up early in the morning, and offered burnt offerings according to the number of them all: for Job said, It may be that my sons have sinned, and cursed God in their hearts. Thus did Job continually.

Why do you think Job would think that?
Was it a guilty conscience?
Projection?

Notice the kids don't invite the parents though huh?
Seven sons and three sisters. All feasting in their course.
And Job sent for them and sanctified them..
to consecrate, sanctify, prepare, dedicate, be hallowed, be holy, be sanctified, be separate

I think I know who the Sons of God are... these guys..
The seven sons.

I think Satan is his own guilty conscience.

He offers sacrifices for his sons thinking they may have sinned and cursed God in their hearts.
But Listen to the dialogue between God and Satan, and stand back and see it is Job talking in his own heart.

Job is a busy man, he is in the market, he is with the neighbors, he always doing doing, going coming..always..
Listen:
Job and his 7 sons have come before the Lord. Job has called and sanctified them and are offering sin offerings, just incase "they" sinned and cursed God in "their" hearts:

This is Job and his seven sons standing before the Lord:

Job 1:6
Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?
Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?
Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.
But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.

I think God is telling Job, instead of worrying about what your kids are doing, have you taken a look at yourself lately?

It's just thats the way I'm hearing it..

What do you think??
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I just read this verse:
Job 1:4
And his sons went and feasted in their houses, every one his day; and sent and called for their three sisters to eat and to drink with them.
Job 1:5
And it was so, when the days of their feasting were gone about, that Job sent and sanctified them, and rose up early in the morning, and offered burnt offerings according to the number of them all: for Job said, It may be that my sons have sinned, and cursed God in their hearts. Thus did Job continually.

Why do you think Job would think that?
Was it a guilty conscience?
Projection?

Notice the kids don't invite the parents though huh?
Seven sons and three sisters. All feasting in their course.
And Job sent for them and sanctified them..
to consecrate, sanctify, prepare, dedicate, be hallowed, be holy, be sanctified, be separate

I think I know who the Sons of God are... these guys..
The seven sons.

I think Satan is his own guilty conscience.

He offers sacrifices for his sons thinking they may have sinned and cursed God in their hearts.
But Listen to the dialogue between God and Satan, and stand back and see it is Job talking in his own heart.

Job is a busy man, he is in the market, he is with the neighbors, he always doing doing, going coming..always..
Listen:
Job and his 7 sons have come before the Lord. Job has called and sanctified them and are offering sin offerings, just incase "they" sinned and cursed God in "their" hearts:

This is Job and his seven sons standing before the Lord:

Job 1:6
Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?
Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?
Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.
But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.

I think God is telling Job, instead of worrying about what your kids are doing, have you taken a look at yourself lately?

It's just thats the way I'm hearing it..

What do you think??
HUGS

Feasts at the time were celebrating what God had done for you.

Each child had to have his/her own feast.

And they might not have wanted to. So Job made a sin offering for them (as their patriarch) just in case they didn't want to.
 
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Feasts at the time were celebrating what God had done for you.

Each child had to have his/her own feast.

And they might not have wanted to. So Job made a sin offering for them (as their patriarch) just in case they didn't want to.
And.... ???

you going to leave me hanging!!!

haha
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This all happened in a period when the world had a commodity based money system.

Food was money and money was food.
You could pay debts in grain or oil or nuts.
Holding a feast was a huge expense. Not something that people could afford to do often.

Job made his kids hold a feast of Thanksgiving to God.

Job not only was sure that he did right he made his kids do right as well as their patriarch.
 
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A patriarch of a family was often a biological father of everyone "in his tent" .

But not necessarily so.
He could be an uncle of your grandparents that held the role.
A patriarch ensured that everyone worked as they could and that everyone was provided to. No one was left out. He settled all internal disputes. He was the guy in charge and the life of the extended family was in his care.

He could easily have several wives as he could/should marry a deceased brother's wife to care for her and give his brother an heir and legacy.

The patriarch ensured justice for the family.
 

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I just read this verse:
Job 1:4
And his sons went and feasted in their houses, every one his day; and sent and called for their three sisters to eat and to drink with them.
Job 1:5
And it was so, when the days of their feasting were gone about, that Job sent and sanctified them, and rose up early in the morning, and offered burnt offerings according to the number of them all: for Job said, It may be that my sons have sinned, and cursed God in their hearts. Thus did Job continually.

Why do you think Job would think that?
Was it a guilty conscience?
Projection?

I’ve been reading your other study on Psalms. Following along with you And going to some of the passages you mentioned to read them also. Love how you give the meaning of the names there. Then I saw this post. A few thoughts: consider ‘in the days of their feasting’ with John 7:37-38 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. [38] He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

Notice the kids don't invite the parents though huh?

2 Corinthians 12:14-15 Behold, the third time I am ready to come to you; and I will not be burdensome to you: for I seek not yours, but you: for the children ought not to lay up for the parents, but the parents for the children. [15] And I will very gladly spend and be spent for you; though the more abundantly I love you, the less I be loved.

Acts 13:32-33 And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers, [33] God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.

This is Job and his seven sons standing before the Lord:

Job 1:6
Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?
Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?
Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.
But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.
  • I’m sorry so many verses here but consider: Isaiah 7:14-16 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. [15] Butter and honey shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good. [16] For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good, the land that thou abhorrest shall be forsaken of both her kings.
God told Satan that Job feared God. Satan reply was Doth Job fear God for nought?

Only an opinion but to me that’s not so much Satan saying or tempting you’ve been to sweet and coddled Job too much, but instead ‘what gain’ ‘what profit’ is there in the fear of the Lord? “Immanuel”...though he was a son yet he learned obedience through the things he suffered “that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good. [16] For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good”

Hebrews 12:7-13 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? [8] But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons. [9] Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live? [10] For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness. [11] Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby. [12] Wherefore lift up the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees; [13] And make straight paths for your feet, lest that which is lame be turned out of the way; but let it rather be healed.

Remember Satan words over one whom God said feared Him. Doth Job fear God for nought? ‘but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.’


Job 21:8-17 Their seed is established in their sight with them, and their offspring before their eyes. [9] Their houses are safe from fear, neither is the rod of God upon them. [10] Their bull gendereth, and faileth not; their cow calveth, and casteth not her calf. [11] They send forth their little ones like a flock, and their children dance. [12] They take the timbrel and harp, and rejoice at the sound of the organ. [13] They spend their days in wealth, and in a moment go down to the grave. [14] Therefore they say unto God, Depart from us; for we desire not the knowledge of thy ways. [15] What is the Almighty, that we should serve him? and what profit should we have, if we pray unto him? [16] Lo, their good is not in their hand: the counsel of the wicked is far from me. [17] How oft is the candle of the wicked put out! and how oft cometh their destruction upon them! God distributeth sorrows in his anger.

“the counsel of the wicked is far from me.” ...goes with your study of The counsel of the ungodly. “that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good. [16] For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good”

Malachi 3:13-17 Your words have been stout against me, saith the Lord. Yet ye say, What have we spoken so much against thee? [14] Ye have said, It is vain to serve God: and what profit is it that we have kept his ordinance, and that we have walked mournfully before the Lord of hosts? [15] And now we call the proud happy; yea, they that work wickedness are set up; yea, they that tempt God are even delivered. [16] Then they that feared the Lord spake often one to another: and the Lord hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the Lord, and that thought upon his name. [17] And they shall be mine, saith the Lord of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.
And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?
Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?
...
Acts 4:10-11 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. [11] This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
 
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I’ve been reading your other study on Psalms. Following along with you And going to some of the passages you mentioned to read them also. Love how you give the meaning of the names there. Then I saw this post. A few thoughts: consider ‘in the days of their feasting’ with John 7:37-38 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. [38] He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.



2 Corinthians 12:14-15 Behold, the third time I am ready to come to you; and I will not be burdensome to you: for I seek not yours, but you: for the children ought not to lay up for the parents, but the parents for the children. [15] And I will very gladly spend and be spent for you; though the more abundantly I love you, the less I be loved.

Acts 13:32-33 And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers, [33] God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.


  • I’m sorry so many verses here but consider: Isaiah 7:14-16 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. [15] Butter and honey shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good. [16] For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good, the land that thou abhorrest shall be forsaken of both her kings.
God told Satan that Job feared God. Satan reply was Doth Job fear God for nought?

Only an opinion but to me that’s not so much Satan saying or tempting you’ve been to sweet and coddled Job too much, but instead ‘what gain’ ‘what profit’ is there in the fear of the Lord? “Immanuel”...though he was a son yet he learned obedience through the things he suffered “that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good. [16] For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good”

Hebrews 12:7-13 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? [8] But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons. [9] Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live? [10] For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness. [11] Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby. [12] Wherefore lift up the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees; [13] And make straight paths for your feet, lest that which is lame be turned out of the way; but let it rather be healed.

Remember Satan words over one whom God said feared Him. Doth Job fear God for nought? ‘but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.’


Job 21:8-17 Their seed is established in their sight with them, and their offspring before their eyes. [9] Their houses are safe from fear, neither is the rod of God upon them. [10] Their bull gendereth, and faileth not; their cow calveth, and casteth not her calf. [11] They send forth their little ones like a flock, and their children dance. [12] They take the timbrel and harp, and rejoice at the sound of the organ. [13] They spend their days in wealth, and in a moment go down to the grave. [14] Therefore they say unto God, Depart from us; for we desire not the knowledge of thy ways. [15] What is the Almighty, that we should serve him? and what profit should we have, if we pray unto him? [16] Lo, their good is not in their hand: the counsel of the wicked is far from me. [17] How oft is the candle of the wicked put out! and how oft cometh their destruction upon them! God distributeth sorrows in his anger.

“the counsel of the wicked is far from me.” ...goes with your study of The counsel of the ungodly. “that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good. [16] For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good”

Malachi 3:13-17 Your words have been stout against me, saith the Lord. Yet ye say, What have we spoken so much against thee? [14] Ye have said, It is vain to serve God: and what profit is it that we have kept his ordinance, and that we have walked mournfully before the Lord of hosts? [15] And now we call the proud happy; yea, they that work wickedness are set up; yea, they that tempt God are even delivered. [16] Then they that feared the Lord spake often one to another: and the Lord hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the Lord, and that thought upon his name. [17] And they shall be mine, saith the Lord of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.
And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?
Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?
Thank You!
The verse that came to mind was about the splinter in thy brothers eye and not seeing the mote in one's own.

It just struck me odd.. I started listening to it and I just went hmmmmm... that happens sometimes.. a lot :rolleyes:
I see it as Job is having an argument in his mind. He is tempting himself.
What if God did this? What if God did that?
The boils and plague is his anxiety and stress manifesting itself through his skin.

I'm just thinking out loud.. :)
Thank you for those wonderful verses!
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The verse that came to mind was about the splinter in thy brothers eye and not seeing the mote in one's own.

It just struck me odd.. I started listening to it and I just went hmmmmm... that happens sometimes.. a lot :rolleyes:
I see it as Job is having an argument in his mind. He is tempting himself.
What if God did this? What if God did that?
The boils and plague is his anxiety and stress manifesting itself through his skin.

I'm just thinking out loud.. :)
Thank you for those wonderful verses!
HUGS

Job 2:3-7 And the Lord said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? and still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst me against him, to destroy him without cause. [4] And Satan answered the Lord, and said, Skin for skin, yea, all that a man hath will he give for his life. [5] But put forth thine hand now, and touch his bone and his flesh, and he will curse thee to thy face. [6] And the Lord said unto Satan, Behold, he is in thine hand; but save his life. [7] So went Satan forth from the presence of the Lord, and smote Job with sore boils from the sole of his foot unto his crown.

I don’t know ‘Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? and still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst me against him, to destroy him without cause. [4] And Satan answered the Lord, and said, Skin for skin, yea, all that a man hath will he give for his life. [5] But put forth thine hand now, and touch his bone and his flesh, and he will curse thee to thy face.’

...the ‘to destroy without cause’ makes me think of John 19:1-9 Then Pilate therefore took Jesus, and scourged him. [2] And the soldiers platted a crown of thorns, and put it on his head, and they put on him a purple robe, [3] And said, Hail, King of the Jews! and they smote him with their hands. [4] Pilate therefore went forth again, and saith unto them, Behold, I bring him forth to you, that ye may know that I find no fault in him. [5] Then came Jesus forth, wearing the crown of thorns, and the purple robe. And Pilate saith unto them, Behold the man! [6] When the chief priests therefore and officers saw him, they cried out, saying, Crucify him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Take ye him, and crucify him : for I find no fault in him. [7] The Jews answered him, We have a law, and by our law he ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God. [8] When Pilate therefore heard that saying, he was the more afraid; [9] And went again into the judgment hall, and saith unto Jesus, Whence art thou? But Jesus gave him no answer.
 
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I see it as Job is having an argument in his mind. He is tempting himself.
What if God did this? What if God did that?
The boils and plague is his anxiety and stress manifesting itself through his skin.

by the way...not saying you are wrong there because I don’t know. You make a good point though. It could be a valid one...when thinking of James 1:13-14 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: [14] But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.

yet again I don’t know but appreciate reading your perspective.
 
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by the way...not saying you are wrong there because I don’t know. You make a good point though. It could be a valid one...when thinking of James 1:13-14 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: [14] But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.

yet again I don’t know but appreciate reading your perspective.

Thank You!
I go one step further and this one is shaky..
Job is God, sitting on the throne in his mind. He finds no fault in himself. Look at me I'm sandra dee... nevermind..
And maybe he feels invincible.
What comes to mind is Nebuchadnezzar and admiring the kingdom as his own. Look at what I did. All of this is mine.
Story starts out with all the riches he has, just like that King. And God humbles him by turning him into a wildman and living among the beasts.
Hahaha those three friends.. lol
What is Satan's job?
He is supposed to sift you.. I need to look at that..
If you look at the four things that happen, 2 of them are weather. One is lightning striking the animals, or maybe even a meteor shower, something with the capacity to burn up everything. and the other could be a tornado.

(I had to look this up because I didn't know and I found this: When most people think of fatal lightning strikes, they probably think of people being struck. However, lightning strikes animals quite often. It's not uncommon for more than just a handful of animals to die, either. In 2016, lightning struck and killed a massive group of reindeer. )

So there may have been a real bad storm that day. The other 2 are The Sabeans and the Chaldeans both came and stole all his animals.
But up until then nothing had happened to him. Like he had a hedge around all that he owned.
We all have bad days like that, except Job's hit him not only in his pocket with his livestock, but in his heart, with his family and his servants.

Job was being tried. Daniel Chapter 4 and Nebuchadnezzar being that head of Gold or that Tree..
Daniel 4: 28-34

All this came upon the king Nebuchadnezzar.
At the end of twelve months he walked in the palace of the kingdom of Babylon.
The king spake, and said, Is not this great Babylon, that I have built for the house of the kingdom by the might of my power, and for the honour of my majesty?
While the word was in the king's mouth, there fell a voice from heaven, saying, O king Nebuchadnezzar, to thee it is spoken; The kingdom is departed from thee.
And they shall drive thee from men, and thy dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field: they shall make thee to eat grass as oxen, and seven times shall pass over thee, until thou know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.
The same hour was the thing fulfilled upon Nebuchadnezzar: and he was driven from men, and did eat grass as oxen, and his body was wet with the dew of heaven, till his hairs were grown like eagles' feathers, and his nails like birds' claws.
And at the end of the days I Nebuchadnezzar lifted up mine eyes unto heaven, and mine understanding returned unto me, and I blessed the most High, and I praised and honoured him that liveth for ever, whose dominion is an everlasting dominion, and his kingdom is from generation to generation:

It's a hard book. A lot of soul searching..
Just thinking..
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And at the end of the days I Nebuchadnezzar lifted up mine eyes unto heaven, and mine understanding returned unto me, and I blessed the most High, and I praised and honoured him that liveth for ever, whose dominion is an everlasting dominion, and his kingdom is from generation to generation:

He was the first of two Gentiles to write scripture. The only one in the Old Testament to write scripture whatsoever.

Remember the one in the New? He wrote a book...but broke it up into two books.

Congratulations for being a contestant on NAME THAT GENTILE.
 
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He was the first of two Gentiles to write scripture. The only one in the Old Testament to write scripture whatsoever.

Remember the one in the New? He wrote a book...but broke it up into two books.

Congratulations for being a contestant on NAME THAT GENTILE.
I'm thinking Colossians 1 and 2 because the letter begins with both Paul and Timotheus sending greetings..

Am I close.. :cool:
 

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I asked a genuine question, but no one answered it !
Perhaps it was a stupid question, perhaps you could let me know ! Rita
@Rita Satan is a fallen angel and powerful, but non omnipotent.

1 John 4.4 comes to mind:

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I asked a genuine question, but no one answered it !
Perhaps it was a stupid question, perhaps you could let me know ! Rita
Lightening and a tornado and Sabeans and Chaldeans stealing his livestock.
I believe they was a natural occurance. Storms happen and people get robbed.
But Job lived a good life vever had anything happen.. and then..
Funny, somehow this just made me think of Lazarus and the rich man.
Rich man Job before being saved, Lazarus man Job after being saved.

Maybe that's what we look like before and after..
just thinking..

good morning 5am..
I need coffee
HUGS
 
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I'm thinking Colossians 1 and 2 because the letter begins with both Paul and Timotheus sending greetings..

Am I close.. :cool:
Nope...

Both written by Paul. (Paul was Jewish...he was a converted Pharisee)

Try Luke.
 
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I was just reading something in Job that I was confused about where it says that even the stars and moon aren't perfect in God's eyes. What exactly does that mean? If He made them and they aren't alive and don't have free will then why wouldn't He have made them perfect?