BREAKING: Real Clear Politics Pulls Pennsylvania Call for Biden — WITHDRAWS ELECTORAL VOTES!

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April_Rose

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Everyone should be free to have their own political opinions, so long as it does not involve attacking other members.






Agreed. And it seems like you have done that before but I don't think you meant to. You actually seem like a nice guy so I don't think you would do that intentionally. :)
 
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We should be praying that both men get saved .
Trump is saved. He rededicated himself to Christ well before the election.
As for Biden, he's Catholic. I'm sure he thinks he is saved.

Wouldn't it be presumptuous on our part to think they're not? All those accusations against him with regard to his past sins are under the blood. God has forgiven Trump and I don't think I have a higher calling to remember those sins God forgave and forgot.
Let they who are without sin cast the first stone....?
 

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Question: if Democrats destroy the country and we have to reform the government does that mean Trump gets a third term?
The Democrats did destroy America as best as they were able using the Covid 19 pandemic as leverage to that end.
No, it doesn't mean Donald Trump gets a third term. It means we may wish to pray he overcomes the collusion to steal his second term from him. That he may revive America's economy and save us from Joe Biden's plans to destroy us even further.
Biden was VP under BHO. Possibly the worst president in American history. His crony's, Joe Biden and Hillary R. Clinton obeyed the orders of their boss. In the end, espionage, treason, sedition.
And we want the vice president involved in all of that to have higher power as the president?
It isn't a matter of how much someone hates Trump. As I see it it is a matter of how much do they hate their country to vote for Biden?


Why Christians Can Still Support President Trump in Good Conscience
 

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Hi WS, and WELCOME!

Actually, by my best understanding of Bible Prophecy, Trump & Pence have to win this Election in order to be murdered in the streets per Rev. 11.

And of course Pat Robertson agrees that Trump will be re-elected, although not for the same reason as I propose:

But just as Elisha STOOD and prayed for GOD to open his servant's eyes to see the massed enemy surrounded by angels (2 Kings 6), we must also STAND in the face our our adversary knowing GOD's presence in our lives.

With Best Regards,
Bobby Jo
That after laying unburied in the streets for 31/2 days the breath of God will enter their bodies and resurrect them?
 

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I can certainly understand people (conservative, Christians, Republicans) turning against Trump ....and there were certainly good reasons for some states to turn because of Trump's racism. But I don't see Biden as a better choice to deserve the support of Christians/conservatives.
Trump has been the best thing for any black person in the history of USA, if they want to better themselves.
The problem was Covid that hampered the progress that Trump was making.
Look at all the blacks that support Trump ! hey.
Look at all the diaper people cry baby's ? are they people who have proven themselves worthy in a real working life.
Who is it that are the ones seen sitting about being a burden on society, who is it that they all vote for, the Left ! we have them in Australia and the majority of such people are lefty's, go to the Jails and what is the majority Lefty's, people who work for the Government they are by far lefty's as well, you will always find a lazy person is a lefty. it's like they have a new years resolution and it's to do as little as possible and scrounge around to play games in how to best serve themselves in getting something for nothing or compensation, I have heard them says such openly around me plenty of times, it's all about screwing the boss or the company or taking the Governments tax payers for a ride, they think that they are smart, well they are cunning devils I will give them that, but smart ? I would not call cunning smart, but they sure do see such that way.
 

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That after laying unburied in the streets for 31/2 days the breath of God will enter their bodies and resurrect them?

... while the mob celebrates and gives gifts.

Yep! -- Or so the Timing, the Candidates, and the Politics appears to point to ...
Bobby Jo :)
 
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The racist in this race is Biden. His mentor was Senator Robert Byrd, a high ranking member of the KKK was his mentor. Who remembers Biden's comment, poor kids are just as smart as white kids.
 
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The racist in this race is Biden. His mentor was Senator Robert Byrd, a high ranking member of the KKK was his mentor. Who remembers Biden's comment, poor kids are just as smart as white kids.

Funny, how the Dishonest Media FALSELY demands that Trump refute "white supremacy"; but these LIARS NEVER ask Biben to refute "his white supremacy HISTORY".


Remember, satan is the father of lies, and he has MANY minions! :)
Bobby Jo
 

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Everyone should be free to have their own political opinions, so long as it does not involve attacking other members.

Opinions help if they're backed by TRUTH; and hindered if they're backed by propaganda.

Let's try more TRUTH and less Propaganda ...
Bobby Jo
 

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Opinions help if they're backed by TRUTH; and hindered if they're backed by propaganda.

Let's try more TRUTH and less Propaganda ...
Bobby Jo
while i fully agree we should simply speak truth and less propoganda .
IT WORKED FOR THE NEWS . BIDEN IS IN . sad huh .
But for christains , we dont lie . So yeah i agree lets speak truth and forsake propoganda .
 

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Funny, how the Dishonest Media FALSELY demands that Trump refute "white supremacy"; but these LIARS NEVER ask Biben to refute "his white supremacy HISTORY".


Remember, satan is the father of lies, and he has MANY minions! :)
Bobby Jo
Indeed. And the MSM in America are all owned by mega-billion dollar corporations.
 

Bobby Jo

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... BIDEN IS IN . sad huh . ...
Ummmmmmmmm, -- have you fallen for the propaganda? Exactly WHO said "BIDEN IS IN"? Was it the LYING Media, or the LYING Wikipedia, or the LYING Dems, or the LYING Biden himself?

There's only ONE entity which can make that "call", -- the Electoral College --, and they haven't.

So don't add to the PROPAGANDA. :mad:
Bobby Jo
 

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Don't be ridiculous I like you both,.. I'm just saying that you can have your opinions but you might want to keep them to yourself. It's coming out as hurtful and I know you aren't like that. You don't know how difficult it was for me to tell you this but I had to tell you the truth. Jesus calls us to love one another and treat others the way we want to be treated and we are supposed to be representing Him.

Thank you but I will not change my mind, I have had way to much negative interaction from him.
 

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Remember NO ONE is called ELECT until the ballots are certified and voted on next month..
The lying media has taken liberty with this term President Elect for Biden...they believe folks are ignorant or stupid..Biden is nothing yet...

The media keeps lying to us

So guess you don't mind trump lies

As of early April, Trump has told 23.3 lies per day in 2020, a 0.5-lie increase since 2019. What’s more, Trump has averaged 23.8 lies per day since the first case of COVID-19 was reported in the US — another 0.5-lie increase. Even during a pandemic, when the public needs to trust and rely on him the most, deception remains a core part of the president’s playbook.


What’s unusual about Trump is not just how often he lies, but what he lies about and where he communicates his lies most often.

I evaluated Trump’s 18,000 reported lies organized by topic. If Trump lied consistently, we would see a relatively flat distribution of falsehoods over time and across topics. Instead, bursts of deception tend to repeat on the same topic, particularly about guns, the economy, education, and elections.

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President Trump's lies over time by topic.

David Markowitz
 

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Josho is not partisan - it is a good thing
 

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Remember NO ONE is called ELECT until the ballots are certified and voted on next month..
The lying media has taken liberty with this term President Elect for Biden...they believe folks are ignorant or stupid..Biden is nothing yet...

The media keeps lying to us

no. The perceived winner of the election is referred to as the President-Elect. In fact, if you look it up on Wikipedia Joe Biden's picture is shown next to the definition.

it's like everyone Trump, believe no one knows how to fact check....
 

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no. The perceived winner of the election is referred to as the President-Elect. In fact, if you look it up on Wikipedia Joe Biden's picture is shown next to the definition. ...

YEAH!!! -- The Electoral College doesn't decide if a Candidate has won the requisite number of States, -- WIKIPEDIA DOES!


Which is worse, a Liar or an Idiot?!? :rolleyes:
Bobby Jo
 
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So guess you don't mind trump lies

As of early April, Trump has told 23.3 lies per day in 2020, a 0.5-lie increase since 2019. What’s more, Trump has averaged 23.8 lies per day since the first case of COVID-19 was reported in the US — another 0.5-lie increase. Even during a pandemic, when the public needs to trust and rely on him the most, deception remains a core part of the president’s playbook.


What’s unusual about Trump is not just how often he lies, but what he lies about and where he communicates his lies most often.

I evaluated Trump’s 18,000 reported lies organized by topic. If Trump lied consistently, we would see a relatively flat distribution of falsehoods over time and across topics. Instead, bursts of deception tend to repeat on the same topic, particularly about guns, the economy, education, and elections.

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President Trump's lies over time by topic.

David Markowitz

I've learned that you have to be very specific when presenting evidence that demonstrates Trump's immoral and unethical behavior. If you post articles, then the articles are immediately dismissed out of hand with ad hominem attacks against the source or you will find yourself the focus of contempt and your character will be assassinated. It's possible that the validity of your Christian faith might also be cast into doubt. You will soon realize that it doesn't matter if an article quotes Trump directly or if an article provides a video of him speaking the very words you quote him saying. Both articles quoting him directly and videos of him speaking are generally dismissed out of hand with nothing more than excuses.

I'm sharing what I've learned and observed in the last five years while conversing with someone who exhibits unwavering support for Trump. The most common rebuttals to dismiss his unchristian behavior have been "I voted for a President, not a pastor" and "Christians shouldn't judge him for his sins." I'm sure you'll probably hear more excuses similar to these or even more dismissive of Trump's unchristian behavior. You'll see a lot of intentional deflections to Biden and other Democrats too. Maybe you've encountered these tactics and more during the last 5 years of Trump.



 
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