BREAKING: Real Clear Politics Pulls Pennsylvania Call for Biden — WITHDRAWS ELECTORAL VOTES!

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n2thelight

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I've learned that you have to be very specific when presenting evidence that demonstrates Trump's immoral and unethical behavior. If you post articles, then the articles are immediately dismissed out of hand with ad hominem attacks against the source or you will find yourself the focus of contempt and your character will be assassinated. It's possible that the validity of your Christian faith might also be cast into doubt. You will soon realize that it doesn't matter if an article quotes Trump directly or if an article provide a video of him speaking the very words you quote him saying. Both articles quoting him directly and videos of him speaking are generally dismissed out of hand with nothing more than excuses.

I'm sharing what I've learned and observed in the last five years while conversing with someone who exhibits unwavering support for Trump. The most common rebuttals to dismiss his unchristian behavior have been "I voted for a President, not a pastor" and "Christians shouldn't judge him for his sins." I'm sure you'll probably hear more excuses similar to these or even more dismissive of Trump's unchristian behavior. You'll see a lot of intentional deflections to Biden and other Democrats too. Maybe you've encountered these tactics and more during the last 5 years of Trump.




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Trump’s lies are problematic because they force us to question our institutions and the value of information. Their consequences might also bleed into our everyday meaningful relationships. Our trust in government, media, and other institutions remain quite low, but we still tend to trust one another.

What happens when our distrust in government affects our trust in family or friends? When we fail to value truth and instead, prioritize alternative facts or self-serving discourse, the fabric that holds our relationships together begins to fray.


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Yes, Trump rallies drew huge crowds, unlike Biden rallies. ;)

NOT TRUE. -- Trump only drew a crowd of 250 people in Minnesota, not counting the 20,000 waiting outside the venue who weren't allowed in because of the CRIMINAL GOVERNOR who violated our FREE SPEECH PUBLIC GATHERING Constitutional Right.

;)
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YEAH!!! -- The Electoral College doesn't decide if a Candidate has won the requisite number of States, -- WIKIPEDIA DOES!


Which is worse, a Liar or an Idiot?!? :rolleyes:
Bobby Jo






That's right Wikipedia knows all,.. in fact it's so accurate I wouldn't be surprised if God wrote it Himself. :D (Hopefully you can tell that I'm being sarcastic. :p)
 
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no. The perceived winner of the election is referred to as the President-Elect. In fact, if you look it up on Wikipedia Joe Biden's picture is shown next to the definition.

it's like everyone Trump, believe no one knows how to fact check....

I don't know why I'm replying to you because I really don't think it is productive with someone that is apparently 'lost' in more ways than one
and uses Wikipedia at their fact checker...it would be very funny if the subject was not so serious.

From your so-called fact-checker.....
"The president-elect of the United States is the person who conclusively appears to have won a presidential election in the United States but has yet to take office as President. "

CONCLUSIVELY APPEARS TO HAVE WON is based on an opinion aspen.....do you know what an opinion means? it can be based on wishful thinking, wanting it to be official NOW...it's still is an opinion..they are doing it for their political gain aspen...you can see that right?

I appear to you, to resist aspen on every front. Is that really true aspen?.....you appear to be very young, naive and needs to get his head on straight....is that true aspen?...

Now go back to to your precious fact-checker and go to the 2nd paragraph 3rd sentence. Let me write it...

"There is no indication when that person actually becomes president-elect.[1]"....your fact-checker is deliberately confusing you and many others. To cover the truth here in a confusing statement as this one. They needed to tell you about the Electoral College and their role.

Read it out aloud aspen. THERE IS NO INDICATION WHEN.....he/she is called the elected President.
As I said before, when the Electoral College meets and ALL State certified vote counts turned in, next month the electors elect, and you have a President elect. That is the FIRST time you have a President-elect.

For the topping, from your fact-checker again...read the 4th sentence....this should convince you your fact-check is false and very devious and unconvincing.

"Since 1963, U.S. federal law has empowered the General Services Administration to determine who the apparent election winner is and to help facilitate the basic functioning of the president-elect's transition team"

Now aspen: The GSA has REFUSED to allow Biden's request of gaining Federal restate at this time. WHY do you think this is aspen...?

******BECAUSE BIDEN IS NOT THE PRESIDENT ELECT.....using their words..". to determine who the apparent election winner .."

******THE GSA CANNOT DETERMINE the apparent election winner....

Then your fact-checker tells the real bottom-line bold lie...after the 4th paragraph...

"Joe Biden is the president-elect of the United States, having defeated incumbent Donald Trump in the 2020 presidential election.[3][4][5][6]"

Has Pres. Trump been defeated today aspen? Be brutally honest here...

Your fact check has a subtitle called "Electoral College role" and neglects to say anything about its role to elect a President in what I've been telling you all along. Why would they do that aspen.....?? Of course I know that answer...

Your fact-checker is a liar aspen...I personally would not trust it with my life...

Just don't be so proud to the point of ignoring and shutting out truth completely, out the window in your life mate....it only goes one way with that....

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Definition of PRESIDENT-ELECT

Definition of president-elect
: a person who has been elected president but who has not officially become president yet

This means by implication that a formal recognition of being elected before actually being sworn in.
And how does one get elected again aspen? not by appearing to have won...as one person's opinion.or by the evil deep-state popular sick media are doing today.
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From possibly one of your media outlets and maybe another of your fact-checkers, from ABC..in their own words...

"The president is elected by a college of 538 electors and it takes 270 votes to win.

The number of electors apportioned to states is based on population -- mirroring each state's congressional representation with one electoral vote for each U.S. senator and representative. There is a minimum of three electors per state and the District of Columbia."

And this is done on 14th Dec, aspen....this is the truth..no joke, I'm not kidding around

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no. The perceived winner of the election is referred to as the President-Elect. In fact, if you look it up on Wikipedia Joe Biden's picture is shown next to the definition.

it's like everyone Trump, believe no one knows how to fact check....
Are you kidding me.....your source is a very anti-Trumper as I suspect you are...and you slop down false data that should knock me off my seat..

Please, your credibility and anger shows here mate....

Come back with some truth....

APAK
So guess you don't mind trump lies

As of early April, Trump has told 23.3 lies per day in 2020, a 0.5-lie increase since 2019. What’s more, Trump has averaged 23.8 lies per day since the first case of COVID-19 was reported in the US — another 0.5-lie increase. Even during a pandemic, when the public needs to trust and rely on him the most, deception remains a core part of the president’s playbook.


What’s unusual about Trump is not just how often he lies, but what he lies about and where he communicates his lies most often.

I evaluated Trump’s 18,000 reported lies organized by topic. If Trump lied consistently, we would see a relatively flat distribution of falsehoods over time and across topics. Instead, bursts of deception tend to repeat on the same topic, particularly about guns, the economy, education, and elections.

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President Trump's lies over time by topic.

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David Markowitz, the liberal lying professor is your source.....that says a lot about you mate

Here's an excerpt from the 'Daily Beast'..another lying paper....

"....University of Oregon professor David Markowitz has shown that Trump’s “bursts of deception” have grown in size and frequency since he first took office. It’s also abundantly clear at this point that the toll of Trump’s lying can be measured in human lives; as journalist Bob Woodward recently revealed, Trump openly bragged to him about lying to the American public regarding the severity of the COVID-19 pandemic...."


"....measured in human lives.....you believe that @#$$%..I guess you do...
And then they include and quote the lying Woodward so-called journalist in the same section....enjoy your evil company mate

come to think of it you 'sound' like a sick person based on your post alone...might need to get tested...you might test positive...I would be afraid....
 
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I don't know why I'm replying to you because I really don't think it is productive with someone that is apparently 'lost' in more ways than one
and uses Wikipedia at their fact checker...it would be very funny if the subject was not so serious.
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APAK, your patience, perseverance, and long-suffering is killing me. -- I try my best to be as invested in my "labors"; but YOU prove the example, and will undoubtedly have a greater reward than the lack of my own patience would allow me to receive.

With Very Best Regards,
Bobby Jo
 
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APAK, your patience, perseverance, and long-suffering is killing me. -- I try my best to be as invested in my "labors"; but YOU prove the example, and will undoubtedly have a greater reward than the lack of my own patience would allow me to receive.

With Very Best Regards,
Bobby Jo
Thanks BJ for these words.....I just sense I need to show the truth more profoundly at times, whether on this topic if it faults Trump or in this case Biden...I really don't care what man, political system/party or worldly institution it applies to...that is not my life today or in the future....if the truth is at stake I want to cry it out at times...as it really does not need me or anyone as its defense...it ultimately comes for the heart in a true believer...and a believer is sometimes ignorant and wrong, and off-the-truth, and needs to be corrected, as any fragile human life that is in need of the Lord our Saviour.

There is going to be a famine indeed, in the near future..not one of food...one of spiritual food and discernment called the truth....we are already seeing signs of it now...when even believers cannot decipher was is true or not...who is lying and who is not....it will only get much deeper and wider..the spiritual divide between men and women...this is truly a sign of the times...Amen
 
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This is not breaking news, RCP never said PA was for Biden, they are still awaiting the outcome.
It is not that complicated, some do not want to commit to things in the turmoil even though it is pretty clear.

The growth of votes through the postal ballot is not news, it is just obvious if most democrats voted by post.
This kind of glimmer of hope approach is just making the final outcome feel worse.

It is true until everything is confirmed it is all just a projection. Realistically this means political groups can get on planning their government while the final wrangling and counts are being completed. No sensible government would do it any other way, because there are thousands of people involved.
 

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Are you kidding me.....your source is a very anti-Trumper as I suspect you are...and you slop down false data that should knock me off my seat..

Please, your credibility and anger shows here mate....

Come back with some truth....

APAK


David Markowitz, the liberal lying professor is your source.....that says a lot about you mate

Here's an excerpt from the 'Daily Beast'..another lying paper....

"....University of Oregon professor David Markowitz has shown that Trump’s “bursts of deception” have grown in size and frequency since he first took office. It’s also abundantly clear at this point that the toll of Trump’s lying can be measured in human lives; as journalist Bob Woodward recently revealed, Trump openly bragged to him about lying to the American public regarding the severity of the COVID-19 pandemic...."


"....measured in human lives.....you believe that @#$$%..I guess you do...
And then they include and quote the lying Woodward so-called journalist in the same section....enjoy your evil company mate

come to think of it you 'sound' like a sick person based on your post alone...might need to get tested...you might test positive...I would be afraid....

stop Gaslighting. If you want people to believe that Trump is not a liar, you're just crazy. And I am actually happy, not angry - Biden won the election - I have nothing to be angry about. You are the person swearing in your post, not me.

Even a critical article from FOX news calls Biden President elect. You're wrong - just admit it or are you going to turn your mistake into a lie by doubling down like Trump?
 

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I don't know why I'm replying to you because I really don't think it is productive with someone that is apparently 'lost' in more ways than one
and uses Wikipedia at their fact checker...it would be very funny if the subject was not so serious.

From your so-called fact-checker.....
"The president-elect of the United States is the person who conclusively appears to have won a presidential election in the United States but has yet to take office as President. "

CONCLUSIVELY APPEARS TO HAVE WON is based on an opinion aspen.....do you know what an opinion means? it can be based on wishful thinking, wanting it to be official NOW...it's still is an opinion..they are doing it for their political gain aspen...you can see that right?

I appear to you, to resist aspen on every front. Is that really true aspen?.....you appear to be very young, naive and needs to get his head on straight....is that true aspen?...

Now go back to to your precious fact-checker and go to the 2nd paragraph 3rd sentence. Let me write it...

"There is no indication when that person actually becomes president-elect.[1]"....your fact-checker is deliberately confusing you and many others. To cover the truth here in a confusing statement as this one. They needed to tell you about the Electoral College and their role.

Read it out aloud aspen. THERE IS NO INDICATION WHEN.....he/she is called the elected President.
As I said before, when the Electoral College meets and ALL State certified vote counts turned in, next month the electors elect, and you have a President elect. That is the FIRST time you have a President-elect.

For the topping, from your fact-checker again...read the 4th sentence....this should convince you your fact-check is false and very devious and unconvincing.

"Since 1963, U.S. federal law has empowered the General Services Administration to determine who the apparent election winner is and to help facilitate the basic functioning of the president-elect's transition team"

Now aspen: The GSA has REFUSED to allow Biden's request of gaining Federal restate at this time. WHY do you think this is aspen...?

******BECAUSE BIDEN IS NOT THE PRESIDENT ELECT.....using their words..". to determine who the apparent election winner .."

******THE GSA CANNOT DETERMINE the apparent election winner....

Then your fact-checker tells the real bottom-line bold lie...after the 4th paragraph...

"Joe Biden is the president-elect of the United States, having defeated incumbent Donald Trump in the 2020 presidential election.[3][4][5][6]"

Has Pres. Trump been defeated today aspen? Be brutally honest here...

Your fact check has a subtitle called "Electoral College role" and neglects to say anything about its role to elect a President in what I've been telling you all along. Why would they do that aspen.....?? Of course I know that answer...

Your fact-checker is a liar aspen...I personally would not trust it with my life...

Just don't be so proud to the point of ignoring and shutting out truth completely, out the window in your life mate....it only goes one way with that....

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Definition of PRESIDENT-ELECT

Definition of president-elect
: a person who has been elected president but who has not officially become president yet

This means by implication that a formal recognition of being elected before actually being sworn in.
And how does one get elected again aspen? not by appearing to have won...as one person's opinion.or by the evil deep-state popular sick media are doing today.
------------------------------------
From possibly one of your media outlets and maybe another of your fact-checkers, from ABC..in their own words...

"The president is elected by a college of 538 electors and it takes 270 votes to win.

The number of electors apportioned to states is based on population -- mirroring each state's congressional representation with one electoral vote for each U.S. senator and representative. There is a minimum of three electors per state and the District of Columbia."

And this is done on 14th Dec, aspen....this is the truth..no joke, I'm not kidding around

APAK

really

please. Perhaps I am younger than you are - I take it as a complement because frankly, you sound angry and old. I am 49, but the perception of age, like the term President elect is based on opinion, right? Since it hasn't occurred to you, the majority of the world acknowledges Biden's victory in the election, based on votes assigned to him by the electoral college - as you know, he has also won the most votes in history.

I never claimed Wikipedia to be the only source of my fact checking - defining the term President elect is not rocket science - do I really need more than a Wikipedia definition? Nowhere in the article did it say everyone asked, had to agree on whether Biden had actually become the President elect for him to be the President elect. Therefore, my opinion is just as valid as yours.
 
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Not sure why states are bothering to recount - anything short of a Trump landslide will be considered cheating by Trump
 

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I don't know, I think he'd accept a single-vote win.

Much love!

probably true - no matter the vote count it will be sold as the most tremendous victory ever seen in the history of the US, World, and universe
 
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