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TLHKAJ

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ERROR, Hebrews 1:5 "For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?"

right here in Hebrews, it clearly eliminates any doubt about any, any, any, angel at any, any, time being a son of God.
A. "any time" includes Genesis chapter 6. so those sons of God there are not angels.

B. "And again, I will be to him a Father" God is not the Father in the sense of relationship to any angel. at ANY TIME.

C. now as for the term, "Son", here in Hebrews, someone may say, well the Son here is capitalized and only INDICATING the Lord Jesus. glad you're thinking, but are any angels "IN" christ Jesus as one for salvation, or we... humans are in, in, in Christ Jesus, his, God's body?.

well Hebrews just eliminated any argument for any angel theory as sons, and get this before or after Christ coming.... christian, of may we say "PAGAN" christians what to hold onto these false doctrine. which is nothing but paganism at it's best deception.


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Read that verse carefully. It refers to the only begotten Son of God. If you study that out, it means one of a kind. Jesus was/is God ...of the same substance and essence as Creator God. He was the Word made flesh.
The angels cannot say that. They are created beings just as Adam was. The rest of humanity were/are begotten of men.
 

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Read that verse carefully. It refers to the only begotten Son of God. If you study that out, it means one of a kind. Jesus was/is God ...of the same substance and essence as Creator God. He was the Word made flesh.
The angels cannot say that. They are created beings just as Adam was. The rest of humanity were/are begotten of men.
I suggest you read my #C carefully.

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There had to have been multiple incursions because Genesis 6:17 states that all flesh that had the breath of life (and even everything that is "in the earth") died.
correct now, where did the giants come from after the flood? answer, from human parents that was descendants from only those who survived the flood. which means there was no angels incursions before the flood.

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So the demons had the dominant DNA to bypass the human characteristics?

What did they look like?

Were they good looking, beautiful babies, or did they genetically look like their demon fathers?

At least describe what the demon fathers looked like so we can figure this out. Thanks.
Look at what happens when a lion and tiger are crossed. The hybrid offspring are huge.

The fathers of the giants are not demons. They are fallen angels. The demons came from the union of fallen angels and human women.
 
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correct now, where did the giants come from after the flood? answer, from human parents that was descendants from only those who survived the flood. which means there was no angels incursions before the flood.

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Wow, you sure didn't read what I wrote. I already answered that. There were incursions before and after the flood. You've come too late to tell me incursions haven't happened. I've witnessed them.
 

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Wow, you sure didn't read what I wrote. I already answered that. There were incursions before and after the flood. You've come too late to tell me incursions haven't happened. I've witnessed them.
no, you dodn't read #C for if you did you would not have ask your second question.

I only applied the facts to Genesis chapter 6.

but I'm not into vain babbling back in forth. question, "Who do YOU say is the sons of God in Genesis chapter 6 verse 4?"

looking to hear your answer.

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TLHKAJ

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no, you dodn't read #C for if you did you would not have ask your second question.

I only applied the facts to Genesis chapter 6.

but I'm not into vain babbling back in forth. question, "Who do YOU say is the sons of God in Genesis chapter 6 verse 4?"

looking to hear your answer.

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I didn't ask a question. And yes, I did witness incursions. You're making no sense at all. Anyone who reads what I wrote, based on quoted Scripture, can see and understand.
 

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Read that verse carefully. It refers to the only begotten Son of God. If you study that out, it means one of a kind. Jesus was/is God ...of the same substance and essence as Creator God. He was the Word made flesh.
The angels cannot say that. They are created beings just as Adam was. The rest of humanity were/are begotten of men.
Hi @TLHKAJ . Good distinction in Scripture to make, there.
 
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I didn't ask a question. And yes, I did witness incursions. You're making no sense at all. Anyone who reads what I wrote, based on quoted Scripture, can see and understand.
JUST ANSWER MY QUESTION

no argument needed, so who are the sons of God in Genesis 6?
Hi @TLHKAJ . Good distinction in Scripture to make, there.
C. now as for the term, "Son", here in Hebrews, someone may say, well the Son here is capitalized and only INDICATING the Lord Jesus. glad you're thinking, but are any angels "IN" christ Jesus as one for salvation, or we... humans are in, in, in Christ Jesus, his, God's body?.

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1 Corinthians 1:10 "Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment."

angels are not sons of God.

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The Bible doesn't say they survived or escaped the flood.

There were more incursions after the flood, according to the Bible. The phrase in
Genesis 6:4, "when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men" indicates that when the sons of God ..

.that's when there were "giants in the land."

There had to have been multiple incursions because Genesis 6:17 states that all flesh that had the breath of life (and even everything that is "in the earth") died.

“And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.” — Genesis 6:17 (KJV)
Who were the giants of Caanan?

Noah's descendants or angel babies that hid in the ark?
 

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Look at what happens when a lion and tiger are crossed. The hybrid offspring are huge.

The fathers of the giants are not demons. They are fallen angels. The demons came from the union of fallen angels and human women.
Fallen angels are demons.

Also, angels don't have the ability to procreate.

God did not do vasectomy's on them after the flood.
 

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God took the man from the earth, put him in paradise, gave him a woman.
They both sinned and were sent back to earth.
from ashes to ashes.. from dust to dust.
Eden is the New Jerusalem.
Adam is the head, Eve is the body.
They fell.
sacrifice was made for their restitution.
see revelation chapter 21 for the rest of the story.
and then turn to book 1 chapter 1.. and go from there.

History repeats itself.. from the ending to the beginning to the ending to the beginning... alpha and omega world without end
amen.

2 angels walked with the Lord and met Abraham.. and then went and obliterated sodom and gomorrah.
who are these 2 witnesses?? who can cause the rain to stop and fire fall from heaven.
rain.. word of God.. Spirit of God. fire from heaven ... wrath of God.. judgement.
blind men wanted to get to know these two angels but they was too blind to see.
all they found was a wall.. the door was hidden to them.

you guys make everything so difficult.. :)

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You guys need to lighten up on the rock monster theory.

Angels are invisible entities and humans are visible entities.

Angels cannot have sex with humans, they can only enter their bodies spiritually.

That is a fact, lest fallen angels are getting our chicks today.

So why did the men of Sodom want 2 have sex with the two Angels

Genesis 19:1 "And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground."

Genesis 19:5 "And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, "Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them."

Don't think these two were invisible
 

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Until you understand why they did(sex)what they did, you won't understand ,not just whom the sons of God are ,but the whole Word of God..
 

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Who do men say that I am?
Some say this, some say that..
Who do you say I am?
Thou art the Christ.
Mat 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
Luk 10:24 For I tell you, that many prophets and kings have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.

Where does it say the men of Sodom wanted to have sex with those two men???
See here is the thing..
These two guys show up at Lot's house. The people in the neighborhood are curious. Who you got in your house Lot??
Introduce your friends..

what did Lot do?

What did LOT do?

Did Lot know how to read minds?
Lot = "covering"
covering or veil.
The blind leading the blind...

Only reason why Lot made it out alive was because of Abraham.
Remember the deal ended at 10.. there wasn't 10
they came to bring judgement on Sodom..
and Lot judged them..
judge not, lest ye be judged
God have mercy!

This rumour been circulating for so long...
the Bible tells you exactly what the sin of Sodom was.
The Lord through Ezekiel is giving Jerusalem a little pep talk..
she thinks she is so righteous and perfect.. but God has news for her.

Eze 16:48 As I live, saith the Lord GOD, Sodom thy sister hath not done, she nor her daughters, as thou hast done, thou and thy daughters.
Eze 16:49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.
Eze 16:50 And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.
Eze 16:51 Neither hath Samaria committed half of thy sins; but thou hast multiplied thine abominations more than they, and hast justified thy sisters in all thine abominations which thou hast done.
Eze 16:52 Thou also, which hast judged thy sisters, bear thine own shame for thy sins that thou hast committed more abominable than they: they are more righteous than thou: yea, be thou confounded also, and bear thy shame, in that thou hast justified thy sisters.

You know what is abominable... idolatry.

oh but what about Jude??!!
Jde 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

strange (difficult word to find in the greek) other... other.
flesh.. the soft tissue which covers the bones of man and beast.

other flesh could mean other people not of their nation.
could mean beastiality.. could mean a lot of things..

But I don't see in the book of Genesis where it said anything about the men wanting to have fornication with them.
That's what Lot thought...
Lot, the guy who has relations with his 2 daughters because they believe there are no more men to ....
Even though LOT KNEW Abraham was just over the horizon..

Pot calling the kettle black..
Remember Lot's wife.. she cared more about her life than her husband or daughters.
The 2 guys that were to be married to the two daughters.. see ya..

I think Lot was a very lonely man and had nothing better to do than stand in the gate and point fingers at everybody else.
And greedy. He wanted the best watered land, and so he parked his SUV at Sodom's door..
he knew about them..

And when the light came knocking on his door, what did he do?
don't look here... look there..
that's why the people got mad and wanted to bust down Lot's door.

Gen 19:9
And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door.

Finale,
When Jesus says He never knew you... ???

Too bad Lot stood in the door:
Mar 3:7 But Jesus withdrew himself with his disciples to the sea: and a great multitude from Galilee followed him, and from Judaea,
Mar 3:8 And from Jerusalem, and from Idumaea, and from beyond Jordan; and they about Tyre and Sidon, a great multitude, when they had heard what great things he did, came unto him.
Mar 3:9 And he spake to his disciples, that a small ship should wait on him because of the multitude, lest they should throng him.
Mar 3:10 For he had healed many; insomuch that they pressed upon him for to touch him, as many as had plagues.
Mar 3:11 And unclean spirits, when they saw him, fell down before him, and cried, saying, Thou art the Son of God.
Mar 3:12 And he straitly charged them that they should not make him known.

It's TOO BAD Lot stood in the Door:
Mar 6:7 And he called unto him the twelve, and began to send them forth by two and two; and gave them power over unclean spirits;
Mar 6:8 And commanded them that they should take nothing for their journey, save a staff only; no scrip, no bread, no money in their purse:
Mar 6:9 But be shod with sandals; and not put on two coats.
Mar 6:10 And he said unto them, In what place soever ye enter into an house, there abide till ye depart from that place.
Mar 6:11 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
Mar 6:12 And they went out, and preached that men should repent.
Mar 6:13 And they cast out many devils, and anointed with oil many that were sick, and healed them.

Too bad Lot stood in the door.

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So why did the men of Sodom want 2 have sex with the two Angels

Genesis 19:1 "And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground."

Genesis 19:5 "And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, "Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them."

Don't think these two were invisible
The 2 angels were not trying to have sex with humans.

God made them appear as human-like for the moment.

Unless God miraculously makes them visible in some form, they are always invisible to us.

Case in point, where are the visible angels now?
 

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Sons of the Most High denotes state of being.
Created in the heavens - sons of the Most High
Created of earth- sons of man
 

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The 2 angels were not trying to have sex with humans.

God made them appear as human-like for the moment.

Unless God miraculously makes them visible in some form, they are always invisible to us.

Case in point, where are the visible angels now?

That's not what I said that scripture says. They were trying to have sex with the angels ,and for you to say they just appeared for a minute ,did not they sit own and eat ?
 

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Gen 19:1 And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground;

angels:
messenger, representative
from an unused root meaning to despatch as a deputy; a messenger; specifically, of God, i.e. an angel (also a prophet, priest or teacher):—ambassador, angel, king, messenger.

That IS the definition of angel, in the Hebrew language, written by hebrews, to describe what they called an angel.
Don't mention invisible, don't mention wings, don't mention they fly...
They were messengers just like the two witnesses in the book of Revelation.

You pick up a potato and look up the description of what it is, and it says what a potato is.
If you want to call it an ostrich egg, that's your choice, still doesn't change the potato and what it is.
Somebody somewhere in history dug up an edible root. They said.. look, it's a potato. Everyone agreed to call the potato a potato.
So they wrote a description of the root and said.. Potato.

An Angel is a messenger or representative who is dispatched.. kind of like Philip when he ran into that eunuch and started preaching to him the gospel.. you could call Philip and angel, because that is the assignment God gave him to do.
And you never know when someone like Philip may show up at your chariot and want to spread the good news.

Heb 13:2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.
Just like that eunuch...

Act 8:26 And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem unto Gaza, which is desert.
Act 8:27 And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship,
Act 8:28 Was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esaias the prophet.
Act 8:29 Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.
Act 8:30 And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?
Act 8:31 And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.


Act 8:39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.
Act 8:40 But Philip was found at Azotus: and passing through he preached in all the cities, till he came to Caesarea.

Jhn 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.


Act 8:26 And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem unto Gaza, which is desert.
Act 8:29 Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.

In verses 26 and 29... is the angel and the Spirit.. one in the same or are they different?

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