What wisdom is this?

I'm having a battle with Paul. I've asked Peter to come and work this out with me.
I've had this battle before but have not found a resolution.
In truth, I see Paul as the wolf who comes in and scatters the sheep.
Leading them towards the gentiles rather then leading the gentiles to God.
I am supposed to take the word of a man, that Jesus showed himself to him,
and no one with him could verify this. He has no witnesses.
John was a witness, the works that Jesus did was a witness. The words he spoke and the walk he walked are all found in the scriptures.
Paul aka Saul, began under the teaching of one Gamaliel. Who had perfect knowledge of the law. He was a "doctor" of the law. He doctored the law. I hear Jesus saying it is written in your law.. etc.. who was writing their law? Aye Gamaliel, the one Paul was learned by.
He claims to be a Jew and then a Roman, then an Israelite of the tribe of Benjamin.
He set out on a mission to destroy this new body which Jesus himself had begun.
He had letters from the High Priest and those who sat at the council meetings,
no doubt the same stock that had Jesus killed.
And I'm supposed to trust this Pharisee because he said, Jesus said...

I like what Paul says, it sounds sweet. It sounds easy. Just do this and you'll be fine.
I don't trust him. Plain and simple.
Whether you agree or disagree, right now doesn't matter.
He knows the law. He knows the prophets. I just feel he twists them.
All of a sudden what was tithing once every 3 years has now become a weekly collection.
It's a money thing... tv evangelists.. just send money to sow some seed..
a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.

The one sign God gave Isreal to show that they followed the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the seventh day Sabbath.
Rome comes in, and mind you Paul claims to be a Roman, and changes the Sabbath to
Sun worship day. We know this. We've read this. it's documented. It's a fact.
And the reason they did so was because they hated the Jews.
IDOLATRY...
#1 cause for Israel backsliding.. every time.

Peter says the unstable and the unlearned wrest with Paul and his epistles.
That his words are hard to be understood. And I find myself hearing:
God is not the author of confusion.

From here forward I am the lunatick son.
I will most likely be falling into the water (grace) and into the fire (judgement) .
Any one who feels inclined to add to the discussion is welcome,
However, let me make this clear, My battle is not with you, it is with Paul
and being led away from God into a world of Idolatry.

Let the battle begin:

Day of rest
A common theme in criticism of Hebrew Shabbat rest was idleness, found not to be in the Christian spirit of rest. Irenaeus (late 2nd century), also citing continuous Sabbath observance, wrote that the Christian "will not be commanded to leave idle one day of rest, who is constantly keeping sabbath", and Tertullian (early 3rd century) argued "that we still more ought to observe a sabbath from all servile work always, and not only every seventh-day, but through all time". This early metaphorical interpretation of Sabbath applied it to the entire Christian life.

Ignatius, cautioning against "Judaizing" in the Epistle of Ignatius to the Magnesians, contrasts the Jewish Shabbat practices with the Christian life which includes the Lord's Day:

"Let us therefore no longer keep the Sabbath after the Jewish manner, and rejoice in days of idleness. But let every one of you keep the Sabbath after a spiritual manner, rejoicing in meditation on the law, not in relaxation of the body, admiring the workmanship of God, and not eating things prepared the day before, nor using lukewarm drinks, and walking within a prescribed space, nor finding delight in dancing and plaudits which have no sense in them. And after the observance of the Sabbath, let every friend of Christ keep the Lord's as a festival, the resurrection-day, the queen and chief of all the days. "

The 2nd and 3rd centuries solidified the early church's emphasis upon Sunday worship and its rejection of a Jewish (Mosaic Law-based) observation of the Sabbath and manner of rest. Christian practice of following Sabbath after the manner of the Hebrews declined, prompting Tertullian to note "to [us] Sabbaths are strange" and unobserved. Even as late as the 4th century, Judaizing was still sometimes a problem within the Church, but by this time it was repudiated strongly as heresy.

Sunday was another work day in the Roman Empire. On March 7, 321, however, Roman Emperor Constantine I issued a civil decree making Sunday a day of rest from labor, stating:

"All judges and city people and the craftsmen shall rest upon the venerable day of the sun. Country people, however, may freely attend to the cultivation of the fields, because it frequently happens that no other days are better adapted for planting the grain in the furrows or the vines in trenches. So that the advantage given by heavenly providence may not for the occasion of a short time perish. "

While established only in civil law rather than religious principle, the Church welcomed the development as a means by which Christians could the more easily attend Sunday worship and observe Christian rest. At Laodicea also, the Church encouraged Christians to make use of the day for Christian rest where possible, without ascribing to it any of the regulation of Mosaic Law, and indeed anathematizing Hebrew observance on the Sabbath. The civil law and its effects made possible a pattern in Church life that has been imitated throughout the centuries in many places and cultures, wherever possible.

Many Christian theologians believe that Sabbath observance is not binding for Christians today, citing for instance Col. 2:16–17.

Some Christian non-Sabbatarians advocate physical Sabbath rest on any chosen day of the week, and some advocate Sabbath as a symbolic metaphor for rest in Christ; the concept of "Lord's Day" is usually treated as synonymous with "Sabbath". This non-Sabbatarian interpretation usually states that Jesus's obedience and the New Covenant fulfilled the laws of Sabbath, the Ten Commandments, and the Law of Moses, which are thus considered not to be binding moral laws, and sometimes considered abolished or abrogated. While Sunday is often observed as the day of Christian assembly and worship, in accordance with church tradition, Sabbath commandments are dissociated from this practice.

Col. 2:16–17.
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

NLT:
So don’t let anyone condemn you for what you eat or drink, or for not celebrating certain holy days or new moon ceremonies or Sabbaths.
For these rules are only shadows of the reality yet to come. And Christ himself is that reality.

Don't worry bout it...
The word Sabbath is listed 137 times in the Bible.
Because Israel didn't worry bout it, they were punished many many times.
If the Sabbath is only of a shadow of something yet to come,
What need is there for a sunday rest then?
Also I also find this rather ironic:
"All judges and city people and the craftsmen shall rest upon the venerable day of the sun. Country people, however, may freely attend to the cultivation of the fields, because it frequently happens that no other days are better adapted for planting the grain in the furrows or the vines in trenches. So that the advantage given by heavenly providence may not for the occasion of a short time perish. "

It frequently happens that no other days (what is this day) the FIRST DAY are better adapted for planting grain in the furrows or the vines in the trenches.. So the First Day of WORK is given by heavenly providence. And only the (slaves) country people are able to work in it.
No Saturday or sunday rest for you folks.. you have to take it up with Pharoah. Maybe Moses come save ya.. hehehe...

Nope..
grain and vines... bread and wine.. have to keep those pagan sacrifices flowing.. But wait.. the ordinances was nailed to the cross.
If so why do we still keep them??
And who are they kept for?
"All judges and city people and the craftsmen shall rest upon the venerable day of the sun.

Deu 4:15 Take ye therefore good heed unto yourselves; for ye saw no manner of similitude on the day that the LORD spake unto you in Horeb out of the midst of the fire:
Deu 4:19 And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven.
Deu 4:20 But the LORD hath taken you, and brought you forth out of the iron furnace, even out of Egypt, to be unto him a people of inheritance, as ye are this day.

Col. 2:16–17.
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

So what exactly is Paul saying here?
If he says no man does that include the Romans who judged the Christians for keeping these things?
Is he saying, just do what the romans do and don't worry bout it?

say it again:
NLT:
So don’t let anyone condemn you for what you eat or drink, or for not celebrating certain holy days or new moon ceremonies or Sabbaths.
For these rules are only shadows of the reality yet to come. And Christ himself is that reality.

Was he warning the church , that this condemnation of their Judaistic observances were going to be condemned?
What rules.. you mean God's laws?

moving on..

2 Peter chapter 3

This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:
That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:
Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.


According to the wisdom given to him.. Paul.
Here is wisdom.... oh nevermind..

Luk 21:12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake.
Luk 21:13 And it shall turn to you for a testimony.
Luk 21:14 Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer:
Luk 21:15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.
Luk 21:16 And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death.
Luk 21:17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.

Act 6:8 And Stephen, full of faith and power, did great wonders and miracles among the people.
Act 6:9 Then there arose certain of the synagogue, which is called the synagogue of the Libertines, and Cyrenians, and Alexandrians, and of them of Cilicia and of Asia, disputing with Stephen.
Act 6:10 And they were not able to resist the wisdom and the spirit by which he spake.
Act 6:11 Then they suborned men, which said, We have heard him speak blasphemous words against Moses, and against God.

Act 9:6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.

Act 9:7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.

Act 22:9 And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.

Which one was it Paul?

oh look it's Daniel..

Dan 10:7 And I Daniel alone saw the vision: for the men that were with me saw not the vision; but a great quaking fell upon them, so that they fled to hide themselves.

I don't think Paul remembered how Daniel worded it so he got confused..
couldn't make up his mind if they saw him or heard him or didn't see him or didn't hear him..

I don't think it mattered much as long as he got in.

Stephen..

Jhn 16:1 These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended.
Jhn 16:2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.
Jhn 16:3 And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.
Jhn 16:4 But these things have I told you, that when the time shall come, ye may remember that I told you of them. And these things I said not unto you at the beginning, because I was with you.

ReChoired said:

Act 9:10 And there was a certain disciple at Damascus, named Ananias; and to him said the Lord in a vision, Ananias. And he said, Behold, I am here, Lord.

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Who is Ananias?

Well we have 3 Ananias's...
That drives me crazy.. like Johns and Mary's.. argh

Act 5:1 But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession,
Act 5:2 And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet.
Act 5:3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
Act 5:4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.
Act 5:5 And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.
Act 5:6 And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out, and buried him.

A "certain" man.. usually more to the story when it's a "certain" man. But apparently this guy didn't make it.
Then we have this one:

Act 9:10 And there was a certain disciple at Damascus, named Ananias; and to him said the Lord in a vision, Ananias. And he said, Behold, I am here, Lord.
Act 9:11 And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the street which is called Straight, and enquire in the house of Judas for one called Saul, of Tarsus: for, behold, he prayeth,
Act 9:12 And hath seen in a vision a man named Ananias coming in, and putting his hand on him, that he might receive his sight.
Act 9:13 Then Ananias answered, Lord, I have heard by many of this man, how much evil he hath done to thy saints at Jerusalem:
Act 9:14 And here he hath authority from the chief priests to bind all that call on thy name.
Act 9:15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:
Act 9:16 For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name's sake.
Act 9:17 And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost.
Act 9:18 And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized.
Act 9:19 And when he had received meat, he was strengthened. Then was Saul certain days with the disciples which were at Damascus.
Act 9:20 And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God.

So this next verse.. It doesn't sound like it sounded before..
Luk 21:8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.
Many shall come in my name and they will claim they know me.. and he preached Christ, that he is the Son of God.

That's 2 Ananias's 1 is in Damascus with the other disciples... where is Peter..
And Annas the high priest, and Caiaphas, and John, and Alexander, and as many as were of the kindred of the high priest, were gathered together at Jerusalem.
Act 4:23 And being let go, they went to their own company, and reported all that the chief priests and elders had said unto them.

Acts chapter 4
Act 4:32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
Act 4:33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.
Act 4:34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
Act 4:35 And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.

Enter Ananias and Sapphira. We don't exactly know bt these verses where Paul and Ananias was, when Peter caught Anaias in a LIE.

So now we have this other Ananias... who is told to go to a street named desire.. I mean Straight.
straight, level

Barnabas = "son of rest"
the surname of Joses or Joseph, a Levite, a native of Cyprus He was a distinguished Christian teacher and companion and colleague of Paul.

Act 4:36 And Joses, who by the apostles was surnamed Barnabas, (which is, being interpreted, The son of consolation,) a Levite, and of the country of Cyprus,
Act 4:37 Having land, sold it, and brought the money, and laid it at the apostles' feet.

So Barnabas is at the same place doing the same thing as Ananias #1... except Ananias lied. and died.

Act 9:21 But all that heard him were amazed, and said; Is not this he that destroyed them which called on this name in Jerusalem, and came hither for that intent, that he might bring them bound unto the chief priests?
Act 9:22 But Saul increased the more in strength, and confounded the Jews which dwelt at Damascus, proving that this is very Christ.
Act 9:23 And after that many days were fulfilled, the Jews took counsel to kill him:
Act 9:24 But their laying await was known of Saul. And they watched the gates day and night to kill him.
Act 9:25 Then the disciples took him by night, and let him down by the wall in a basket.
Act 9:26 And when Saul was come to Jerusalem, he assayed to join himself to the disciples: but they were all afraid of him, and believed not that he was a disciple.

Act 9:27 But Barnabas took him, and brought him to the apostles, and declared unto them how he had seen the Lord in the way, and that he had spoken to him, and how he had preached boldly at Damascus in the name of Jesus.
Act 9:28 And he was with them coming in and going out at Jerusalem.
Act 9:29 And he spake boldly in the name of the Lord Jesus, and disputed against the Grecians: but they went about to slay him.
Act 9:30 Which when the brethren knew, they brought him down to Caesarea, and sent him forth to Tarsus.

So Barnabas, who probably knew Ananias... declared that Paul was ok because Paul said so.
I'm back at square one..
Ananias #3.. come on down..

Act 23:1 And Paul, earnestly beholding the council, said, Men and brethren, I have lived in all good conscience before God until this day.
Act 23:2 And the high priest Ananias commanded them that stood by him to smite him on the mouth.
Act 23:3 Then said Paul unto him, God shall smite thee, thou whited wall: for sittest thou to judge me after the law, and commandest me to be smitten contrary to the law?
Act 23:4 And they that stood by said, Revilest thou God's high priest?

OH OH!
Watch this.. this guy is good... He is good at division.. watch: LOL

Act 23:5 Then said Paul, I wist not, brethren, that he was the high priest: for it is written, Thou shalt not speak evil of the ruler of thy people.
Act 23:6 But when Paul perceived that the one part were Sadducees, and the other Pharisees, he cried out in the council, Men and brethren, I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee: of the hope and resurrection of the dead I am called in question.
Act 23:7 And when he had so said, there arose a dissension between the Pharisees and the Sadducees: and the multitude was divided.
Act 23:8 For the Sadducees say that there is no resurrection, neither angel, nor spirit: but the Pharisees confess both.
Act 23:9 And there arose a great cry: and the scribes that were of the Pharisees' part arose, and strove, saying, We find no evil in this man: but if a spirit or an angel hath spoken to him, let us not fight against God.
Act 23:10 And when there arose a great dissension, the chief captain, fearing lest Paul should have been pulled in pieces of them, commanded the soldiers to go down, and to take him by force from among them, and to bring him into the castle.

Whew... that was close..

I have lived in all good conscience before God until this day.
So going around slaughtering innocent people and locking them in prison.. and that don't bother your conscience.. Just doing my job..

Ananias.. high priest, Paul says He don't know you.. not Capital H or P.. just high priest.. Not Annas he was the High Priest.. just clarifying.

Act 9:1 And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest,
Act 9:2 And desired of him letters to Damascus to the synagogues, that if he found any of this way, whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound unto Jerusalem.

So we got Ananias and Barnabas giving up all their worldly possesions to Peter.
Paul gets letters from the high priest giving him authority to wipe out the christians.
Now here is Ananias saying to those listening to Paul, slap him on the mouth..
And Paul says hmm. I didn't know you eas the high priest.... that gave me those letters... but we won't talk about that.. nope
And Paul.. little wasckely wabbit.. manages to get the crowd attacking each other to save himself.
And that's not bad enough, He has to preach to us about causing divisions in the church..

HYPOCRITE!!
1Co 11:18 For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.
1Co 3:3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
Oh the mockery..

And after calling the high priest a whited wall, he preaches for us to respect authority...

I'm not kidding..
This guy really bugs me.

@ReChoired Thank You
I appreciate anything you feed me.
HUGS

Galatians is to me like sour grapes...


Gal 2:11 But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.

Peter gets hit on this side for for not wanting to see Jesus killed.. called Satan for being an obstacle to the plan.
Then gets slapped on the other cheek for for not wanting to offend the gentiles.

Why would you say that??
Because that's how it was in Pharoah land. Hebrews were not allowed to eat with the Egyptians it was an abomination.
This is Joseph who was set ruler over Egypt:

Gen 43:32 And they set on for him by himself, and for them by themselves, and for the Egyptians, which did eat with him, by themselves: because the Egyptians might not eat bread with the Hebrews; for that is an abomination unto the Egyptians.

Gal 2:12 For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision.

Remember the division Paul caused between the Pharisees and the Saducees... yeah,
Now we going to seperate and cause a ruckus between the circumcised and uncircumcised..

Valley of DIVISION..

I think Peter was worried about eating with the Gentiles not because of circumcision, but because of Rome.
They hated the Jews and I don't think Peter trusted Paul anyways..

Gal 2:13 And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation.

Gal 2:14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?

You tell them Paul, you the Judge.. even though you preach we aught not to judge one another... OKAY..

Gal 2:15 We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles,

SO CONDENSCENDING!!!

Gal 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Well let's see what Jesus said about works ..
Mat 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

Jhn 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

Lord, what works?
Jhn 15:24 If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father.

What works?
Mat 11:2 Now when John had heard in the prison the works of Christ, he sent two of his disciples,
Mat 11:3 And said unto him, Art thou he that should come, or do we look for another?
Mat 11:4 Jesus answered and said unto them, Go and shew John again those things which ye do hear and see:
Mat 11:5 The blind receive their sight, and the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, and the poor have the gospel preached to them.
Mat 11:6 And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me.

Isa 29:18 And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness.
Isa 29:19 The meek also shall increase their joy in the LORD, and the poor among men shall rejoice in the Holy One of Israel.

Isa 29:20 For the terrible one is brought to nought, and the scorner is consumed, and all that watch for iniquity are cut off:
Isa 29:21 That make a man an offender for a word, and lay a snare for him that reproveth in the gate, and turn aside the just for a thing of nought.


You want to know what I think.. maybe not, but I'm going to say it anyways..

Saul is GUILTY, and the only way he feels he can get away with MURDER is by eliminating the LAW that holds him GUILTY.
Rom 7:9
For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

That's called a GUILTY CONSCIENCE Paul..
Don't worry bout it..

Psa 119:126 It is time for thee, LORD, to work: for they have made void thy law.

Rev 2:2
I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:

Rev 2:19
I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first.

Rev 2:26
And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

Rev 14:13
And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

Rev 20:12
And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Rev 20:13
And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.


Rom 7:25
I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
So.. Paul says.. Man, I know it's not right to go out and kill all these people, but I just can't control my body.. it has a mind of it's own..

Give me a break.. And then teaches you don't have to worrry about breaking any laws, God's got you covered.

ARGGHHH..
Ding Ding...
C'mon Paul your turn.. prove me wrong..

What did Paul do?
Other than travel, write letters, preach, and get his butt whooped..
what did he do?
Jesus said I do these works and if you believe then you will do more..
So what did Paul do?

shovel time..

Enoch111 said:

I did not expect you to be posting UTTER RUBBISH.

According to you God allowed a "wolf" to write over half of the New Testament. So have you made sure that you have removed all the epistles of Paul from your Bible? If not, you are simply another hypocrite and a wolf in sheep's clothing.

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I could say something very naughty.. but I won't because I have manners.
If you don't like my thread, go find another place to play.
This is my fight..

Taken said:

I would suggest a study of Acts 13.



God Bless,
Taken

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Thank You
I'm reading Acts chapter 17 and I find he has a good argument.
I like it when people HELP me..
It's much appreciated.
This guy has just been a thorn in my side for years.
And I'm trying to work it out.

People want to poke me though... in this thread.. Ima POKE BACK..

Thank You Taken
HUGS

Enoch111 said:

No. This is not your fight. You are sowing spiritual confusion and dissension with this thread. You have accused the apostle Paul of being a wolf. Which means that you are the wolf out to scatter and devour the sheep.

BEWARE OF WOLVES IN SHEEPS' CLOTHING.

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Go drink some wine..
and MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS