Is Almighty God Partial?

judd said:

Does Almighty God judge right? why should the children of a wicked man suffer for the sins of their father?

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Acts 10:34-35
To your thread title, no, God is not partial. To be partial means to favor one over another and the fact that he views all men & women and all nations equal, then he is not partial. Acts 17:26

to your 2nd question, Yes, he does judge rightly for he sees into the very heart and motives of a person. hence his judgement is always based on their motives moreso then on the action itself. 1 Sam. 16:7 Jeremiah 17:10 & Ps. 17:3 shows that his judgements are just because they are based on our motives for the action.

and to your 3rd question, It is not God who makes the children of a wicked father/mother suffer. We have to recognize that there can be long term consequences to our family members if we act badly. If a father gambles away the family money, the children will suffer because of the direct consequences of the fathers actions....not because God has anything to do with it.
We are also told that if someone commits serious sin, God will not let them get off scott free Exodus 34:7 Whatever punishment they may recieve will ultimately affect their family such as if a father is put into Jail or has to pay a very large fine or has his vehicle impounded for several months....the consequences is why children suffer.

judd said:

look at this, 1 kings 11 vs 35. you can read other verses before there. Does his son deserve that?

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Does his son not deserve to be the next king? I think thats what you are asking(?)

This account describes the breakup of the kingdom of Isreal at Gods direction. Solomon had turned to false gods and because of that God had decided to keep only the tribe of Judah & Benjamine (Davids tribe) as his own and break off with the other 10 tribes. They were practicing idol worship and calf worship...they had left Gdod and his commanments. This is why God broke ties with them. Unfortunately the children of those Isrealites suffered as a result of their parents unfaithfulness to God....thats what longterm consequences do.

If Solomon had of remained faithful, Isreal would never have been divided and his sons would have ruled as kings as they should have....but it was the actions of Solomon that caused the division of Isreal and the consequences of which would have effects upon his heirs.

judd said:

Does Almighty God judge right? why should the children of a wicked man suffer for the sins of their father?

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I question the entire purpose of this thread.
You begin with an invalid subject of discussion and end with a fallacy.

Who is man to judge the actions of God? The question is absurd in the extreme.

Can man serve a supoena upon God?
Can man put a leash on the Almighty and haul Him before a judge?
What court would be fit to weigh His decisions or to declare a verdict?
Nevertheless one once did and in doing so unjustly pronounced God's innocent words and deeds as deserving of the penalty of death.

Can man rightly judge God? The mere question is pure rubbish.

Why should the children of a wicked man suffer for the sins of their father?
This is a fallacy, a misconception resulting from flawed reasoning.

Are you implying that God, at some time in the past or present has unjustly punished innocent persons?
Also rubbish.
Prove that it has happened, is happening or ever will happen. I'd like to see that.
Only then can such a thing be adequately examined in debate.

You are condemning God by means of the use of an unjust supposition and twisted logic.

If I were you, I'd fall to my knees and ask forgiveness for my stupidity and my hateful rebellious attitude against the Most High.

Of course not, the same gifts He gave to the first century believers, He still gives to us today.

judd said:

Does Almighty God judge right? why should the children of a wicked man suffer for the sins of their father?

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I do not ever expect to suffer for the sins of my father

I do not ever expect to suffer for my own sins.

That is why I am a Christian.

You have used an Old testament quote that may refer to the handing down of family traits or something. I do not know for sure. Maybe it means that if a person has a mean old bustard of a father it could affect his children in the community. Who knows.

Some of the best people I know had mean old bustard fathers. They broke the genetic mold and became Christians.

That is the whole message of Christianity.

Best regards Judd. Just thinking out loud. Am I on the same track as you ? Thanks

Martin

I've been under a lot of teaching about breaking generational curses Judd. And yes I think propensities in your father and his father will certainly be passed down to you. But, I believe you have the ability to stop and break generational curses.

There are many more examples you could find in the Bible to ask "is God fair?" He called that one woman a dog and said it wasn't right to take food from the jews and give it to her race. Yet, she still received the miracle she wanted. God clearly favored the Jews, yet He left salvation open to ALL. He hated the Egyptians, but favored the Jews in their deliverance. And Romans 9 says he can make one vessel unto honor and another unto dishonor. What about Jacob and Esau? What do you think when you read Romans 9?

But maybe your real question is, "should I have to suffer for the sins of my dad?" The answer to that IMHO is no, but you must stand against the generational iniquities of your dad and renonce them and follow Jesus closely.

Also, God is not "fair" in the way a liberal democrat would use the word. The Lord clearly showed favortism. "You are my people. Come out from among them and be seperate, etc." Fairness the way a liberal democrat uses the word is really anti-God and anti-Christian IMHO. It's really telling God He messed up the way He created us and the way He rules in the affairs of men. I think this is also why liberal democrats are such a Godless group of people in general.

judd said:

Does Almighty God judge right? why should the children of a wicked man suffer for the sins of their father?

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Martin W. said:

I do not ever expect to suffer for my own sins.
That is why I am a Christian.

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You may have a rough surprise waiting for you brother.
Christians do not suffer eternal consequences for sin, but we most certainly do pay for our error in this life.
Even more than non-Christians because God Himself chastens us as beloved sons and daughters.
Why? We are to be conformed to the image of Christ and made pure and Holy even as He is.

It is for chastening that ye endure; God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is there whom his father chasteneth not? But if ye are without chastening, whereof all have been made partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
Heb 12:7-8

All chastening seemeth for the present to be not joyous, but grievous: yet afterward it yieldeth peaceable fruit unto them that have been exercised thereby, even the fruit of righteousness.
Heb 12:11

The life of a Christian is not one of luxury and seating upon pillows, expecting all hardships and discipline to be excused for the error of our ways.

We have been saved at the mercy of God and for the glory of His good name as it says in the 23rd Psalm "He leads me in the path of righteousness for His name's sake."

We have NOT been saved so that we may be excused from discipline.

Please, please, please do NOT make the grievous error of mistaking justification for license.

God holds His own on a tight leash and will not suffer His children to run amuck. He is not slack with regard to our salvation and neither is He slack (as men count slackness) with regard to our lack of discipline.

It is my hope that you do not EVER transgress His will.
If you do, you may be certain that because of His good grace you will experience correction and not all correction is comfortable.

judd said:

Does Almighty God judge right? why should the children of a wicked man suffer for the sins of their father?

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When we identify nations discussed in the Bible, it should be clearly understood
that nations are not individuals. In every nation there are good and bad, the same
as with Judah when Jeremiah 24 prophesied of the good and evil figs. One's
nationality, race, or genealogy may well indicate a specific trait or generational
curses, but no one is doomed to remain there on account of their genealogy. In
fact, the biblical motive for revealing these things is to make people aware of
potential problems, so that they can take the necessary steps to be set free.

The same is true with those lost sheep of the House of Israel, who were
deported to Assyria from 745-721 B.C. Their genealogy did not change, but
their citizenship did. God divorced the House of Israel (Jer. 3:8) and stripped
them of their Birthright name, Israel. They were no longer Israelites in the
legal sense (citizenship). From that point on, they were on the same legal
footing as all the other nations.

The only way for a genealogical Israelite to regain citizenship in the Kingdom
is to declare allegiance to King Jesus. An Israelite's path to citizenship is
precisely the same as for anyone else. While he may claim greater
opportunity--because the gospel was preached in Europe sooner than in
other parts of the world--the opportunity itself is meaningless without the
proper response.

I believe in the biblical law of Impartiality. God's judgments may seem
partial at times, but this is due to other factors. If a man knows the truth
and rejects it, his judgment is greater than for the one who knew not the
truth (Luke 12:47, 48). This law will be applied impartially, using that
standard of measure, and the result will be that those claiming Israelite
heritage may be judged more severely than others. Everyone will be
judged according to their unique situation, but the law will always be
applied impartially.

This is also the meaning of Romans 2:11, 12,

11 For there is no partiality with God.
12 For all who have sinned without the [knowledge of the]
Law will also perish without the Law, and all who have
sinned under the Law will be judged by the Law.

We are judged according to our level of revelation and not merely by
the pure standard of righteousness set forth in the Law. Everyone is
raised in one culture or another, each having variations on its
standards of right and wrong. God takes all of this into consideration
in His wisdom. But when He calls someone, such as Abraham, out
of a worldly culture and begins to train him in the revelation of the
character of God, He expects more out of that person than of others.

One's calling is not a free pass to sin nor is it a right to enslave others.
It does not indicate that the called one is better than others, or more
intelligent, or that he has certain spiritual abilities that other mortals
do not share. It is the calling to learn the ways of God so that he may
teach the rest of the world of His ways. He is called to participate in
the divine plan and purpose for the world. Ultimately, he is called to
be manifested to the world as a son of God in order to set all of
creation free (Rom. 8:19-21).

Religion normally seeks to impose "truth" upon everyone else. It
prefers persuasion, but is willing to use force if necessary. By
contrast, God lets people go until they see the consequences of
their beliefs, and those judgments are the natural consequences
of their own error. Jeremiah 2:19 says,

19 "Your own wickedness will correct you, and your apostasies
will reprove you; know therefore and see that it is evil and bitter
for you to forsake the Lord your God."

Being called of God is not a license to oppress others or to force
anyone else to believe "truth." The day will come, of course, when
various nations will accept the divine Law as their judicial system.
In such nations, all citizens will have to conform their behavior to this
one Law. People will be free to leave, if they find the Law oppressive
to their life style, but if the Law is applied correctly, most people will
find it liberating, rather than oppressive. It would only be oppressive
and partial if applied by Jewish rabbis or by anyone who does not
apply it as Jesus would.

Those who think that being a Jew or being an Israelite is a license
to mistreat others do not understand the spirit of the Law, nor do
they really know the mind of the Lawgiver (Jesus). When the sons
of God are manifested, all creation will rejoice. Today they groan in
travail, for creation is ruled by carnally-minded men, many of them
religious. But those truly called as sons of God will set creation free.
They will rule by the divine Law, which is the expression of the mind,
will, and character of Jesus Christ. It is clarified further by the New
Testament writers under the anointing of Pentecost. It will be fully
clarified when we see Him truly as He is (1 John 3:2) under the
anointing of Tabernacles.

Logabe