I agree
So rather then debate the legitimacy of talking in tongues, perhaps you can help us understand the phenonemon better by answering my questions
What message from God do we need today that Jesus Christ and the apostles did not supply for us?
And what new spiritual information could share with us that we dont already have?
There are many things the Lord and the Twelve did not teach or transmit to others.. I will focus on the secrets, or mysteries as the KJV terms them.
1. The secret of the duration of Israel's blindness. (Romans 11:25)
2. The secret of the evangel: the conciliation (Rom 16:25; Eph 6:19; Col 1:26,27).
3. The secret of the resurrection (1 Cor 15:51).
4. The secret of Christ (Eph 1:9; 3:4; Col 4:3).
5. The Secret (and its administration) (Eph 3:3,9; Col 1:26).
6. The secret of marriage (Eph 5:32).
7. The secret of lawlessness (2 Thess.2:7).
8. The secret of devoutness (godliness) (1 Tim 3: 16).
The reason these secrets were not revealed by the Lord or the Twelve is that they apply to the elect of the Body of Christ. There are major differences in God's operations with us as compared to the Jews, whom the Lord was a minister of (Rom 15:8). We were never a part of the scheme of salvation as presented during the Lord's earthly ministry to Israel (Rom 11:17-25).
Ours is a faith out of grace and election, chosen by God from before the down-casting of the world in Genesis 1:1. We are His workmanship, vessels of grace and wisdom to be displayed to the powers and principalities of the celestial realm, where we battle now and will reside at His coming.
Israel must be regenerated. Those saints who did not obtain the promises of priesthood, rulership over the nations, a temple, a land of their own, will be resurrected to life on earth, in born-again bodies of flesh, with His laws supernaturally imposed on their hearts and minds (Ezek 37). Thus will God fulfill His word of promise to them, when He returns to earth. It will be glorious and grand.
We are not born-again people. Our experience is not fleshly, it is spiritual. We are new creation altogether. If any man be in Christ, he is a new creation. Spiritual beings, deathless, incorruptible in form, just like His. Our home is in the heavens, where is our Savior, for whom we are awaiting.
2C 5:17 Therefore if any man [be] in Christ, [he is] a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
Ga 6:15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
The blessing of possessing this new creation, formed in the image of the Son, is incomprehensible yet absolutely real. We are being outfitted for service in the heavens as spirit beings, reigning with Christ as His Complement, reconciling the universe in subjection to His authority. Already we are these new creations, a blessing that Israel will not obtain til after the thousand year reign of Christ on earth. We have passed beyond the portion of time and place wherein the Son of Mankind rules over all the nations on earth through His People of Promise.
None of these secrets were ever spoken of by the Hebrew saints because they do not pertain to them, so God never revealed them. The Lord has a different plan for the Jew of the New Covenant. We are not a part of that covenant, which finds its fulfillment on the earth in the Lords Day. We are the elect Body of Christ, a complement of the Son, heavenly, spiritual, not the Bride of the Lamb. That is for Israel's glory on earth, not us.
Please note, Pegg. This is not "new spiritual information" that we do not have. It is all in the Book, written down by our Apostle, Paul. However, I recognize that tradition and false teachings have obscured the verity of these truths, and most cannot embrace them due to heavy reliance on men and creeds. We must believe God.
2Ti 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
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