Placing God In Man's Box

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pastorlesofm

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In Isaiah 55:6-13 KJV; In verse 8, The Lord states, For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways. I was visiting an elderly lady friend of mine, during our visit she asked me the question that so many times christian witnesses are asked; " Where did God come from?" and "Who were His parents?". My answer was God always was and is and will be, He is the Beginning and the End. Well she was so unable to grasp it, even though I accompany my words with God's Word. Well, then I told her that this is where faith in God's Word comes in and as well as Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ Himself. I told her that there are many questions that we as christians will have to wait until we get to Heaven to get the answer we seek.
It is sad when I see many who try to take a short cut to understanding the thoughts of God and His Ways. With all the books, dictionaries, theologians, scientific research man will never be able to Box a Mighty God in their thought box. I admit there is a lot the Lord wants us to know and understand, John 21:25; And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. KJV. Psalm 40:5; Many, O Lord my God are Thy wonderful works which Thou hast done, and Thy thoughts which are to us-ward: they cannot be reckoned up in order unto Thee: if I would declare and speak of them, they are more than can be numbered. See v.17;; Psalm 139:17; How precious also are Thy thoughts unto me, O God! how great is the sum of them. Isaiah 55:9; For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts higher than your thoughts. Notice that in Chapter 55 of Isaiah the Lord repeats the difference between man's thoughts and ways from His Thoughts and Ways. One must ask, why is He reinforcing His declaration? What is the Lord saying?
I have nothing against learned people, God Bless them. Many times though I hear my heart say; where is your faith? Why are you attempting to bring the Lord down to the level of man's understanding? Do you not know with all your knowledge that God is too big to fit in man's thought box. It will never happen. Unfortunately man and man's religion will keep trying. The Dictionaries, Encyclopedias, and Library Books come off the shelves while the Word of God and one's faith get's dusty for lack of use. What did Jesus say; "a form of godliness but denying the power of God.". ?
 

fivesense

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I am enjoined to the heartfelt spirit of your post. Our minds are so clouded at times, with thought of this life and its cares, that a true appreciation of God only comes about through the trials and tribs we are expected to endure. Then He does become closer than "hands and feet". Our puny little flesh brains are only capable of handling so much of one thing, that should God reveal Himself in a spectacular way continuously, we would fall down dead.

When He ascended on high, He gave gifts unto men, five of them, three of which are considered operative in our day. Evangelists, pastors and teachers are to adjust the saints to the power of grace working in the Body and to recognize Christ, Who dwells among them. In the face of the oncoming lawlessness and deception, the wisdom and the knowlege of God in the saints must be nurtured and uncovered. This the three offices in the ecclesia must be doing.

In this era of stupendous schism and magnified carnality, warfare from the standpoint of sentiments and feelings are only somewhat effective. Appealing to the goodness and blessedness of the Giver is necessary. But the waging of offense against the one who is transformed into a messenger of light is critical. The cost of failing to learn and uphold the truth as revealed to us cannot be underestimated, only experienced.

God has appointed these offices to perform their tasks. He will not let the carnal divisiveness of sectarianism prevent them from arising to give knowlege and wisdom to the sons and daughters He has chosen for His Son's Body.(see note) It is through the Body that the wisdom and knowlege of the truth of God will be displayed across the universe, illuminating even the darkest corners of the galaxies. Nothing will hold back what the whole world groans and travails for, the manifestation of the sons of God in their deathless glory.

It is imperative then, that we who are seeking truth at all costs, to make allowance for those who would be of the Three remaining offices, and support those we observe to be adjusting the saints to the coming age of Christlikeness. This world and its knowlege and wisdom, the feel-good at any cost protective layer of insulation, must be stripped off in order to expose Christ in us, the expectation of glory.

fivesense

Note: It could be considered that the internet, and this site specifically, is a venue that God is employing in His work. With participation here not allowing for denominational or sectarian propaganda as subject matter, the road is clear to rise up in faith to make claims to knowledge of God and have it tested among all according to the Scriptures. Should we be failing to aid in adjusting the saints of God, and merely spouting off from ego with the intent of gain, then it is made manifest and the Spirit will deal with it. It is true that those who would live devoutly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution, and disallowing this site participation in that would be to no one's benefit, not even the faint of heart.
 

pastorlesofm

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I am enjoined to the heartfelt spirit of your post. Our minds are so clouded at times, with thought of this life and its cares, that a true appreciation of God only comes about through the trials and tribs we are expected to endure. Then He does become closer than "hands and feet". Our puny little flesh brains are only capable of handling so much of one thing, that should God reveal Himself in a spectacular way continuously, we would fall down dead.

When He ascended on high, He gave gifts unto men, five of them, three of which are considered operative in our day. Evangelists, pastors and teachers are to adjust the saints to the power of grace working in the Body and to recognize Christ, Who dwells among them. In the face of the oncoming lawlessness and deception, the wisdom and the knowlege of God in the saints must be nurtured and uncovered. This the three offices in the ecclesia must be doing.

In this era of stupendous schism and magnified carnality, warfare from the standpoint of sentiments and feelings are only somewhat effective. Appealing to the goodness and blessedness of the Giver is necessary. But the waging of offense against the one who is transformed into a messenger of light is critical. The cost of failing to learn and uphold the truth as revealed to us cannot be underestimated, only experienced.

God has appointed these offices to perform their tasks. He will not let the carnal divisiveness of sectarianism prevent them from arising to give knowlege and wisdom to the sons and daughters He has chosen for His Son's Body.(see note) It is through the Body that the wisdom and knowlege of the truth of God will be displayed across the universe, illuminating even the darkest corners of the galaxies. Nothing will hold back what the whole world groans and travails for, the manifestation of the sons of God in their deathless glory.

It is imperative then, that we who are seeking truth at all costs, to make allowance for those who would be of the Three remaining offices, and support those we observe to be adjusting the saints to the coming age of Christlikeness. This world and its knowlege and wisdom, the feel-good at any cost protective layer of insulation, must be stripped off in order to expose Christ in us, the expectation of glory.

fivesense

Note: It could be considered that the internet, and this site specifically, is a venue that God is employing in His work. With participation here not allowing for denominational or sectarian propaganda as subject matter, the road is clear to rise up in faith to make claims to knowledge of God and have it tested among all according to the Scriptures. Should we be failing to aid in adjusting the saints of God, and merely spouting off from ego with the intent of gain, then it is made manifest and the Spirit will deal with it. It is true that those who would live devoutly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution, and disallowing this site participation in that would be to no one's benefit, not even the faint of heart.


Great response, good job. God Bless You
 

archaeologist5

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Where did God come from?" and "Who were His parents?".

the simplest way to answer these questions is as follows:

God is not like our human world. He had no parents and has always existed. sometimes using scriptures withthose who do not have the Holy SPirit helping them grasp their meanings is a waste of time. Jesus was very clear that the secular world does not have the Holy Spirit's help unless there is going to be a conversion. you can find that in John 14 or 16 and other passages.