What Will The TRIBULATION Look Like?

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It should be abundantly clear that there is NO "Peace On Earth", as satan has unleashed TOTAL WAR against Christianity. And it should also be abundantly clear that the "Wuhan"/"China"/"Covid" Virus is PROPAGANDA.

As such, we're told:

Matt. 15:13 He answered, “Every plant which my heavenly Father has not planted will be rooted up. 14 Let them alone; they are blind guides. And if a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.”


... and so I have, and will again resume ... :)
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"What will the tribulation look like" ? Jesus established that the major fulfillment of the "great tribulation" is divided into two phases, in which the first phase is the destruction of the religions of the world called Babylon the Great by means of the political "scarlet-colored wild beast" or United Nations through it's "ten horns" or it's member nations (Rev 17:5, 12, 16, 17), and whereby Judaism was seen as the minor prophecy in this regard to be decimated by "the disgusting that causes desolation", the Roman armies, who "violated" the temple by their military presence in 70 C.E. and then the second phase, the "the war of the great day of God the Almighty", called Armageddon, a world situation that places the political governments or "wild beast" (Rev 13:1, 2) against God's Kingdom.(Rev 16:14, 16; Note: The Roman armies under General Titus forced their way into Jerusalem on April 3, 70 and completed it's destruction by August 30, 70 C.E.)

At Matthew 24, in answering a three part question of "Tell us, when will these things be [of Jesus words that "by no means will a stone be left here upon a stone and not be thrown down" regarding the temple, verses 1, 2], and what will be the sign of your presence and of the conclusion of the system of things ?”, Jesus provides critical insight as to when his invisible "presence" would begin that would eventually lead up to the "great tribulation" by the following first features or indicators: "For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another. All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress".(Matt 24:3, 7, 8)

When did "nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom" on a scale as never seen before that began the "pangs of distress" on mankind ? With the outbreak of World War I on July 28, 1914, when Austria-Hungary declared war on Serbia (due to a Serbian nationalist assassinating the crown prince or archduke, Franz Ferdinand of Austria-Hungary on June 28, 1914), that eventually involved some 93 percent of the earth's population.

This showed that Jesus invisible "presence" had begun, and fulfilled Revelation 6:1, 2 of Jesus as the rider of the "white horse", who was "crowned" king of God's Kingdom at that time, setting off a chain reaction in heaven because he "went out conquering and to complete his conquest", that was followed by a symbolic rider on a "fiery-colored horse" who was granted "to take peace away from the earth so they should slaughter one another".(Rev 6:3, 4; see also Rev 12:5, 7-9, whereby Michael (or Jesus) and his angels fought against Satan and his demonic angels, so that they were forced out of heaven down to the earth, causing great "woe" on the earth, starting World War I)

One of the features of "the sign of Jesus presence" that will lead up to the "great tribulation" (Matt 24:21) is what Jesus said at Matthew 24:14: "And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come".

Yes, once the preaching of the "good news of the Kingdom" is completed according to Jehovah God's time table that brings it to an end, then Jesus said: "Therefore, when you catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation, as spoken about by Daniel the prophet, standing in a holy place (let the reader use discernment), then let those in Ju·deʹa begin fleeing to the mountains".(Matt 24:15)

In 66 C.E., the Roman armies, under the command of Cestius Gallus, came to Jerusalem because of the Jewish revolt against Rome, surrounding it, and made a thrust right up the temple walls. But suddenly, Cestius Gallus withdrew for no apparent reason.

When the Christians saw this withdrawal, they "packed their bags" and left Jerusalem (and fled to Pella, some 70 miles northeast of Jerusalem, a Gentile city on the eastern side of the Jordan river), just as Jesus said to do, for there was only a "window" of about three days before the Jewish zealots returned from slaughtering Cestius Gallus army at Beth-Horon, about 10 miles northwest of Jerusalem, and these would not let anyone leave Jerusalem, saying that they were seeking to side with Rome as traitors.

So, in the minor fulfillment of Jesus prophecy in the 1st century, "the disgusting thing that causes desolation" was the Roman armies, that returned in 70 C.E. under the command of General Titus to finish what Cestius Gallus did not complete.

But the major fulfillment is yet future, though soon to occur. As mentioned at the beginning of the post, the religions of the world called Babylon the Great or "the great prostitute" (Rev 17:1, 2), will be "torn to ribbons" by the political "ten horns" or member nations of the United Nations or "scarlet-colored wild beast".(Rev 17:16, 17; Note: scarlet in ancient times was a symbol of royalty, so that the 196 member nations of the United Nations combined will produce real "royalty" or scarlet as one body for the United Nations to fulfill it's devastating role)

At that time, true worshippers of Jehovah God will rejoice, saying: "Praise Jah ! The salvation and the glory and the power belong to our God, because his judgments are true and righteous. For he has executed judgment on the great prostitute who corrupted the earth with her sexual immorality, and he has avenged the blood of his slaves that is on her hands".(Rev 19:1, 2)

So, the major fulfillment of "the disgusting thing that causes desolation" or first phase of "the great tribulation" will be fulfilled through the United Nations upon the false religions of the world so that only one religion or "form of worship" remains, those who serve and honor Jehovah God.(see Rom 10:13 that says: "For "everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved" as well as 1 Sam 2:30, that says that "those honoring me I will honor, but those despising me will be treated with contempt")

These are attacked by "Gog of the land of Magog" or a coalition of political nations (Eze 38:1, 2, 8, 9) that immediately brings on Jehovah's anger against them(Eze 38:18-23), in conjunction with the rest of the political governments to face off against God's Kingdom, along with the angelic armies, that brings on the second phase of the "great tribulation" and results in their being "crushed" out of existence, so that "not a trace remains".(Dan 2:35, 44; Matt 24:29-31; Rev 19:11-21)
 

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... Jesus established that the major fulfillment of the "great tribulation" is divided into two phases, in which the first phase is the destruction of the religions of the world called Babylon the Great by means of the political "scarlet-colored wild beast" or United Nations through it's "ten horns" or it's member nations ...

This is a puzzling statement which includes a myriad of unsubstantiated assertions which certainly begs several clarifications:

1. Where did "Jesus" cite any "religion of the world called Babylon"?
2. Where does any portion of New Testament Scripture associate "religion" with "Babylon"?
3. Where is the association between a "scarlet ... beast" with the United Nations?
4. How does the U.N. have "ten horns"?
5. How do you associate the "ten horns" with U.N. "member nations"?
... and this only addresses one half a sentence among 13 paragraphs.
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the scriptures are written by Jews to the Jews unless specified by the writer to some like gentiles.

and the worse time (tribulation) that is commemorated continually is the holocaust which technically started on the night of the broken glass in 1938 to 7 years later 1945 when the war in Europe ended and the Jewish prisoners were relieved of their horror.

Scripture is written to ALL!!!
 

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Scripture is written to ALL!!!

that's simple minded thinking. the Lord God of Israel is to the Jews and now to anyone as Paul describes. grafted in to the same promise and faith.

you're actually saying God is so daft He knowingly speaks to that which cannot here and won't listen. sure He sent messengers to Israel when they were rebellious, but He promised Abraham He would stay with them till the end, meaning Abraham's children via Isaac and Jacob. there's no scripture there where the Lord God has a relationship with other peoples and nations unless the Jews were there, is there?
 

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Rampant Election Fraud


... right there under your feet. Don't you see it? You're standing on it, -- the Constitution --, not only allowing others to trample it, but joining them in the process.

Ssatan is orchestrating this entire operation, and his minions Conspire, Preform, Conceal, and Deny.


Are YOU Denying also?!?
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that's simple minded thinking. the Lord God of Israel is to the Jews and now to anyone as Paul describes. grafted in to the same promise and faith.

you're actually saying God is so daft He knowingly speaks to that which cannot here and won't listen. sure He sent messengers to Israel when they were rebellious, but He promised Abraham He would stay with them till the end, meaning Abraham's children via Isaac and Jacob. there's no scripture there where the Lord God has a relationship with other peoples and nations unless the Jews were there, is there?

There is neither Jew nor Gentile when one comes to Christ ,yes it , the Word came first to Israel .
Also do you even know who Israel is?
Do you think Israel is made up just of Jew's? Different subject bottom line remains you belong to one tree or the other grafted in or grafted out


So you not knowing whom Israel is ,is simple minded thinking.
 

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Bobby Jo said:
Rampant Election Fraud



... right there under your feet. Don't you see it? You're standing on it, -- the Constitution --, not only allowing others to trample it, but joining them in the process.

Ssatan is orchestrating this entire operation, and his minions Conspire, Preform, Conceal, and Deny.


Are YOU Denying also?!?
Bobby Jo

Take it he(satan) had nothing to do with trumps win 2016 y'all people funny
 

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Take it he (satan) had nothing to do with trumps win 2016 y'all people funny

Actually he (satan) DID have something to do with the 2016 Election. YOU voted for Hillary!

Good Call. ;)


Now can we get back to the Subject of the TOPIC? :)
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Actually he (satan) DID have something to do with the 2016 Election. YOU voted for Hillary!

Good Call. ;)


Now can we get back to the Subject of the TOPIC? :)
Bobby Jo

I think you started the subject and from your opening I think I'm pretty much on subject and topic!!!
Oh and he(satan) had nothing to do with the election God is and always will be in control
 

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No, we're NOT in the Tribulation / Yes, we ARE in the Tribulation, -- how do we tell?

  • Some assert that WE NEED a Rebuild Temple / Some assert WE ARE the Temple
  • Some assert the Rev. 13 Beast is not here / Some assert the Rev. 13 Beast has been here since 1950
  • Some assert ... and the list goes on ...

But if a person simply considered what CONSTITUTES "tribulation", it might boil down to UNCERTAINTY and CONFUSION as requisites. And if so, using the LEAST reliable PERCEPTIONS, could we at least agree as to SOME INDICATORS, like maybe:

  • Defund the Police
  • Shut down your business Constitutional right to Freedom and the Pursuit of Happiness
  • Force a person who has no sign of ILLNESS to wear a "mask"/quarantine
  • Restrict the number of immediate family members allowed to be together
  • Rampant Election Fraud
  • Mobs physically deface and tear down Historical Statues and Monuments
  • Cities taken over by mobs
  • Cities being burned while the Media declare the event as "mostly peaceful"
  • The electronic and print Media converted in to a Political Propaganda machine
  • One Political Party commits crimes and go unpunished
  • A different Political Party falsely accused of crimes and goes to jail.
  • ... and the list goes on ...

It seems to me that Scripture (the Book of Psalms) substantiates the premise where this 19th Book of the Bible is prophetic for the 1900, and the Chapters are prophetic TO THE JEWS for the years, -- such that if someone simply considered whether this Book 19, Chapter 48 = 1948 International Recognition of the State of Israel; etc. And where a Dishonest person won't even "TRY THE SPIRITS TO SEE OF THE BE OF GOD OR NOT", an Honest person might read that Chapter in context with the Book of Psalms to see if there is a MORE ACCURATE DEPICTION of the events in 1948 or whether those Verses capture that History exactly as it transpired.

And if that Honest person applied MORE History to the respective Chapters, (Note: 1967 "Six Day War" is not explicit because of the decade of Palestinian attacks), -- would that person find similarities in for example the 1991 (Ref. Psalms, Chapter 91) "Desert Storm"; or maybe the 1944 (Ref. Psalms, Chapter 44) Holocaust; etc.?


I ask because some Jews saw the Pre-WWII eminent threat in Europe and fled. But others ignored the "red sky warnings" and PERISHED; and I wonder how many in the church are as the former, versus how many are of the latter; and if the latter, having been warned, are liable for their own blood.


Are any EVEN AWARE; are any PAYING ATTENTION; are any TAKING PRECAUTIONS; and are any MAKING PREPARATIONS? And if not, -- should we?


Bobby Jo

'I'm exaggerating a bit': Giuliani's voter fraud admission

You mad it wearing a mask, do you wear a seatbelt?
 

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There is neither Jew nor Gentile when one comes to Christ ,yes it , the Word came first to Israel .
Also do you even know who Israel is?
Do you think Israel is made up just of Jew's? Different subject bottom line remains you belong to one tree or the other grafted in or grafted out


So you not knowing whom Israel is ,is simple minded thinking.

but not all are in Christ are they? therefore there is a distinction isn't there? the promise to Abraham is a distinction between the Jew and the gentile of which exists today. so stop trying to utopianize your Christian views as though they are the righteousness of God that all should obey. God makes the distinction between Jew and gentile that all the world can see, and the world makes the distinction between Jew and gentile, and you don't. gee what does that mean?

is it the world and God, not you that has the problem?
 

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but not all are in Christ are they? therefore there is a distinction isn't there? the promise to Abraham is a distinction between the Jew and the gentile of which exists today. so stop trying to utopianize your Christian views as though they are the righteousness of God that all should obey. God makes the distinction between Jew and gentile that all the world can see, and the world makes the distinction between Jew and gentile, and you don't. gee what does that mean?

is it the world and God, not you that has the problem?

So you think only Jew's make up Israel? The original 12 tribes?

Bottom line ,we belong to one Tree or the other tree
Jew's, and not the fake ones over in kenite occupied Israel are no more special than any other


Once in Christ your are Israel

And I really don't understand what you rambling about....

Oh! and yes, not all are in Christ that's why they are called the dead
 
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According to the Trump Lawyers, they maintain that Trump will defeat this Fraudulent Election SCAM for a Second Term. Now given the EVERY ATTEMPT BY THE DEMS to Discount, Dismiss, Deter, and Dissuade this President's Administration, from the FAILED Dossier; the FAILED Kavanaugh; the FAILED Impeachment; the FAILED Hostile House; and now the pending FAILED Election Fraud; -- every Tool, every Technique, and every Method of ATTACK has been EMPLOYED and DEFEATED by Trump and Pence. So the only thing remaining is for satan to come out himself at fight against these TWO MEN OF GOD; and satan WILL WIN:

Rev. 11: 7 And when they have finished their testimony, the beast that ascends from the bottomless pit will make war upon them and conquer them and kill them ...

... at least until they're brought back to life on the third day (3 1/2 days) and will ascend.


And so while some congratulate each other for a presumed Biden Presidency; and some wring their hands at a presumed Biden Presidency; -- I'm simply waiting for the TRUMP Second Term to be declared, so that we can still see the DEMS (presumably Pelosi) give our U.S. Sovereignty to the U.N. which will conclude with Global Thermonuclear War. And the Jesus will Return. :)

... and it's nice that GOD has already scripted not only the roles, but also the outcome.
Bobby Jo
 

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To All,

According to the Trump Lawyers, they maintain that Trump will defeat this Fraudulent Election SCAM for a Second Term. Now given the EVERY ATTEMPT BY THE DEMS to Discount, Dismiss, Deter, and Dissuade this President's Administration, from the FAILED Dossier; the FAILED Kavanaugh; the FAILED Impeachment; the FAILED Hostile House; and now the pending FAILED Election Fraud; -- every Tool, every Technique, and every Method of ATTACK has been EMPLOYED and DEFEATED by Trump and Pence. So the only thing remaining is for satan to come out himself at fight against these TWO MEN OF GOD; and satan WILL WIN:

Rev. 11: 7 And when they have finished their testimony, the beast that ascends from the bottomless pit will make war upon them and conquer them and kill them ...

... at least until they're brought back to life on the third day (3 1/2 days) and will ascend.


And so while some congratulate each other for a presumed Biden Presidency; and some wring their hands at a presumed Biden Presidency; -- I'm simply waiting for the TRUMP Second Term to be declared, so that we can still see the DEMS (presumably Pelosi) give our U.S. Sovereignty to the U.N. which will conclude with Global Thermonuclear War. And the Jesus will Return. :)

... and it's nice that GOD has already scripted not only the roles, but also the outcome.
Bobby Jo

Funniest piece of crap I've read in all my history(20 + years)on this forum.
 

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Be ENCOURAGED:

Matt. 15:13 He answered, “Every plant which my heavenly Father has not planted will be rooted up. 14 Let them alone; they are blind guides. And if a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.”

Those that throw curses and stones will NOT ESCAPE JUDGEMENT:

1 Kngs 2:44 The king also said to Shim′e-i, “You know in your own heart all the evil that you did to David my father; so the Lord will bring back your evil upon your own head.


We all choose! :)
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This is a puzzling statement which includes a myriad of unsubstantiated assertions which certainly begs several clarifications:

1. Where did "Jesus" cite any "religion of the world called Babylon"?
2. Where does any portion of New Testament Scripture associate "religion" with "Babylon"?
3. Where is the association between a "scarlet ... beast" with the United Nations?
4. How does the U.N. have "ten horns"?
5. How do you associate the "ten horns" with U.N. "member nations"?
... and this only addresses one half a sentence among 13 paragraphs.
Bobby Jo

Jesus gave the Revelation ("which God gave to him") to John that provided details of situations and events in our time frame (Rev 1:1), or since 1914, when "the Lord's day" began and Jesus was crowned king of God's Kingdom.(Rev 1:10; 6:1, 2)

But before I go any further, please note what Jesus said in prayer to the Father, Jehovah God, at Matthew 11:25, 26: "I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things (about the Kingdom, for Matt 11:12 says: "From the days of John the Baptist until now, the Kingdom of the heavens is the goal toward which men press, and those pressing forward are seizing it") from the wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to young children (or humble ones like a child). Yes, O Father, because this is the way you approved (to keep spiritual truths hidden from unqualified ones, see Dan 12:10 that shows that only those "having insight will understand" what the Bible teaches)".(Matt 11:25, 26)

And at Matthew 13, in giving several illustrations concerning God's Kingdom, Jesus used the Greek word syniemi that means "to mentally put the pieces together", like figuring out how to assemble something, such as a puzzle or a problem.(Matt 13:13-15, 19, 21, 51; Note: the King James Bible reads "understand" while another Bible reads "get the sense of it", New World Translation)

Thus, a person has to be joined with those "having insight" from Jehovah God (see Zech 8:23), having what is described at Proverbs 19:8b: "Whoever treasures discernment (or able to mentally put the pieces together) will find success". This complements what is stated at Proverbs 25:2: "It is the glory of God to keep a matter secret, and the glory of kings is to search through a matter".

These "kings" are the 144,001 (144,000 "chosen ones" [Matt 24:31] plus Jesus as the premier king, Dan 7:13, 14) that are able to unlock the Bible's "sacred secrets" or mysteries of the Kingdom, able to "mentally put the pieces together", those "having insight".(Matt 13:11; Rev 14:1-3)
Though many profess to grasp what the Bible teaches, only a few (or those "loves Jehovah God with their whole heart, mind, soul and strength", Matt 22:37) really understand what it says and means (for it is only to them Jehovah gives his holy spirit), in harmony with what Jesus said at Matthew 11:25, 26, for few are humble like a "young child", allowing the Bible to speak for itself rather than "forcing a square peg down a round hole".

So, regarding the religions of the world called Babylon the Great, is not really that difficult to discern, for all a person has to do is look at ancient Babylon and ask: "What was it noted for ?" And the answer can be found at Isaiah 47:9-13, that shows that ancient Babylon was very religious, deeply involved in "many spells and your many sorceries.....those who gaze at the heavens (or astrology).....those giving out knowledge of the new moons (the zodiac)".

And then at Jeremiah 51:47, it identifies ancient Babylon as a city of "graven images" to false gods (see Isa 46:1 that names two of ancient Babylon's gods, Bel and Nebo), as well as Ezekiel 21:21, 22, in which it says that before King Nebuchadnezzar made a decision of which way to turn with his army, against Ramah or Jerusalem, he "stops to use divination at the fork in the road, where the two roads branch off. He shakes the arrows. He consults his idols; he examines the liver. The divination in his right hand is pointed toward Jerusalem".

Hence, ancient Babylon was noted for being a center of false religious worship, allowing a discerning person to figure out what Babylon the Great is, that it is a global false religious entity or all the religions of the world and in which ancient Babylon was a prototype for the much greater Babylon the Great.(Note: though ancient Assyria [that preceded Babylon as the 2nd world power of Bible history] also worshipped false gods, it was noted for being a war-like nation, not a religious one, see 2 Kings 15:29; Isa 36:1)

Now concerning the "scarlet-colored wild beast" at Revelation 17:3, the color scarlet has been one of power, wealth and luxury since ancient days.(Jer 4:30; Lam 4:5) And when "the ten horns" or all member nations of the United Nations are combined as one, they now produce such power of royalty that they are able to destroy the religions of the world or Babylon the Great.(Note: never in the United Nations history have all its members ever worked together as "one", but has remained divided. It is only due to Jehovah God putting his "thought" into the hearts of all the member nations of the United Nations that moves them in devastating and making "naked" the religions of the world, Rev 17:16, 17)

Since at Revelation 17, the only "wild beast" spoken here is "the scarlet-colored wild beast" or United Nations, then "the ten horns" are accordingly its members (compare Dan 7:7 that shows ancient Rome as having "ten horns" or all future nations resulting from Rome's dissolution in 476 C.E.), for the number 10 at times represents earthly completeness [10 plagues on Egypt in Exodus, "ten men out of all the nations" at Zech 8:23, etc], while the number seven at times pictures that which is finished, Rev 10:7; 15:1; Josh 6:15, 16, such as seven days finishes a week, which Jehovah established in Gen 2)

Revelation 17:7, 8 gives a clue as to who the "scarlet-colored wild beast" is, for it says: "So the angel said to me: “Why is it that you were amazed ? I will tell you the mystery of the woman and of the wild beast that is carrying her and that has the seven heads and the ten horns: The wild beast that you saw was, but is not, and yet is about to ascend out of the abyss, and it is to go off into destruction. And the inhabitants of the earth—those whose names have not been written in the scroll of life from the founding of the world—will be amazed when they see how the wild beast was, but is not, and yet will be present".

What political entity "was, but is not, and yet is about to ascend out of the abyss" in our time frame ? The "image to the wild beast" (Rev 13:14; Note: the "wild beast" here represents all political governments on the earth; compare Dan 7:1-3 with regard to the meaning of "wild beasts") that is effectual copy of all the political governments under one roof, the United Nations, mirroring their political aspirations through it's forum.

In 1920, the League of Nations came into existence, as a supposed means to prevent another global war, settle disputes. But throughout the 1930s, various members began to leave it, such as Germany in November 1933. When World War II broke out on September 1, 1939, the League of Nations became an "is not" or ceased to function.

But on October 24, 1945, a new "image to the wild beast" came into existence, the United Nations, so that it could be spoken of as ' ascending out of the abyss ' or death-like state. With the United Nations "ten horns" working as "one body" for only this time, it will be able to devastate Babylon the Great, so that at Revelation 19, it says: "After this I heard what seemed to be a loud voice of a great crowd in heaven. They said: “Praise Jah ! The salvation and the glory and the power belong to our God, because his judgments are true and righteous. For he has executed judgment on the great prostitute (Rev 17:1, 2) who corrupted the earth with her sexual immorality (or seductive false religious teachings that held sway over her members), and he has avenged the blood of his slaves that is on her hands". And right away for the second time they said: “Praise Jah ! And the smoke from her goes on ascending forever and ever" (or Babylon the Great will never be forgotten for all the blood it shed and the lies it taught, Rev 18:24).(Rev 19:1-3)
 

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... a person has to be joined with those "having insight" from Jehovah God ...

It seems to me that a certain religious affiliation which some Christians call a "cult" asserts this type of assurance, but it's merely a LOT of empty words.

And I tend to agree with them. But at the same time, my wife and I did have a conversation with one of their "new recruits" and convinced him to examine the Scriptures against the nonsense he was hearing, -- and he became a Christian! And so let me suggest that where all your words are so much rambling, GOD's TRUTH is Clear, Plain, and Simple enough for a child to understand, -- including Who/What is Babylon (among other things), which MOST Christians have no clue. But it's really quite Simple and quite Obvious,


It seems the GREATEST obstacle is not some cryptic "learning", but a simple understanding.
Bobby Jo
 
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No, we're NOT in the Tribulation / Yes, we ARE in the Tribulation, -- how do we tell?

  • Some assert that WE NEED a Rebuild Temple / Some assert WE ARE the Temple
  • Some assert the Rev. 13 Beast is not here / Some assert the Rev. 13 Beast has been here since 1950
  • Some assert ... and the list goes on ...

But if a person simply considered what CONSTITUTES "tribulation", it might boil down to UNCERTAINTY and CONFUSION as requisites. And if so, using the LEAST reliable PERCEPTIONS, could we at least agree as to SOME INDICATORS, like maybe:

  • Defund the Police
  • Shut down your business Constitutional right to Freedom and the Pursuit of Happiness
  • Force a person who has no sign of ILLNESS to wear a "mask"/quarantine
  • Restrict the number of immediate family members allowed to be together
  • Rampant Election Fraud
  • Mobs physically deface and tear down Historical Statues and Monuments
  • Cities taken over by mobs
  • Cities being burned while the Media declare the event as "mostly peaceful"
  • The electronic and print Media converted in to a Political Propaganda machine
  • One Political Party commits crimes and go unpunished
  • A different Political Party falsely accused of crimes and goes to jail.
  • ... and the list goes on ...

It seems to me that Scripture (the Book of Psalms) substantiates the premise where this 19th Book of the Bible is prophetic for the 1900, and the Chapters are prophetic TO THE JEWS for the years, -- such that if someone simply considered whether this Book 19, Chapter 48 = 1948 International Recognition of the State of Israel; etc. And where a Dishonest person won't even "TRY THE SPIRITS TO SEE OF THE BE OF GOD OR NOT", an Honest person might read that Chapter in context with the Book of Psalms to see if there is a MORE ACCURATE DEPICTION of the events in 1948 or whether those Verses capture that History exactly as it transpired.

And if that Honest person applied MORE History to the respective Chapters, (Note: 1967 "Six Day War" is not explicit because of the decade of Palestinian attacks), -- would that person find similarities in for example the 1991 (Ref. Psalms, Chapter 91) "Desert Storm"; or maybe the 1944 (Ref. Psalms, Chapter 44) Holocaust; etc.?


I ask because some Jews saw the Pre-WWII eminent threat in Europe and fled. But others ignored the "red sky warnings" and PERISHED; and I wonder how many in the church are as the former, versus how many are of the latter; and if the latter, having been warned, are liable for their own blood.


Are any EVEN AWARE; are any PAYING ATTENTION; are any TAKING PRECAUTIONS; and are any MAKING PREPARATIONS? And if not, -- should we?


Bobby Jo
How? Look out your window. Seriously, seek the Spirit of Truth with all your strength until He tells you.