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The Lord spoke to Ezekiel and to us through him for we too are sons of man......


Ezekiel 3:17-19 Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at My mouth, and give them warning from Me. When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand. Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.


Paul followed His instructions and passed it on to us.....


Acts 20:26-28 Wherefore I take you to record this day, that I am pure from the blood of all men. For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God. Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which He hath purchased with His own blood.

20:29-32 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears. And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of His grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified.


As the Holy Spirit speaks to us, we "hear the word at My mouth" and warn others. As did Paul, we "declare the counsel of God." We, as His overseers, His watchmen, His "two witnesses," "feed the church of God."


In the last days, as Paul ceased not to warn for three years, we too warn by feeding the woman for three and one half years.....


Revelation 12:5-6 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to His throne. And the woman fled into the wilderness where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.


The woman, the church, is in the wilderness (the world) and His many "two" witnesses teach and prophesy but they are not alone. As God's witnesses are brought forward in the last days so are Satan's....


Matthew 26:60 But found none: yea, though many false witnesses came, yet found they none. At the last came two false witnesses,

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The Church did not give birth to the Messiah, the Messiah gave birth to the His Church. The "woman" fleeing into the wilderness is not the Church.
 

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The Church did not give birth to the Messiah, the Messiah gave birth to the His Church. The "woman" fleeing into the wilderness is not the Church.


Hi Evanom, :)

The following can be seen in different lights.....

Revelation 12:1-3 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.​

God wrote the story in the heavens, shown in the constellations and heavenly bodies. The woman is Israel, the church and she is clothed with the sun....The Light, Christ. She stands on the moon...darkness, Satan. Her crown...the twelve tribes.

12:4- 5 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to His throne.​

As Mary brought forth the Man Child, The Savior, while Herod was waiting to devour Him, Israel brings forth the manchild, the very elect and Satan wants to destroy them. As Christ was caught up unto God, the man child, the saints, the very elect are also caught up unto God...while they walk the earth! It is to be seen spiritually.


12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.​

Joseph and Mary fled to Egypt....a shadow, type, an example for us. Now, the woman is Israel, the church. The woman that gave birth to the very elect, the man child. She is in the wilderness being fed by both sides of the equation. Here she must decide...whose table do I dine from? She is being fed by His prophets, His elect AND by Satan's crew, the "two false witnesses"...pretending to be Godly.

Notice that the chapter and verse (12:6 is 666) the number associated with Satan and end times. That is not a coincidence!
 

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whirlwind-heres a thought that i ask you to consider-wilderness=future


Hi Gregg in Alabama....I'm here in Mobile. :)

I'm not sure what you mean. The wilderness, I believe, is a state of mind...a place we'll be at a certain period of time...the 1,260 days. Has that already begun? Maybe or maybe it's future. But, if future I think it's very close now.
 

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Hi Gregg in Alabama....I'm here in Mobile. :)

I'm not sure what you mean. The wilderness, I believe, is a state of mind...a place we'll be at a certain period of time...the 1,260 days. Has that already begun? Maybe or maybe it's future. But, if future I think it's very close now.


Yes, the "1,260" message has begun.
 

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Hi Evanom, :)

The following can be seen in different lights.....

Revelation 12:1-3 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.​

God wrote the story in the heavens, shown in the constellations and heavenly bodies. The woman is Israel, the church and she is clothed with the sun....The Light, Christ. She stands on the moon...darkness, Satan. Her crown...the twelve tribes.

Anything in the Bible can be seen in different lights, and thats the problem. The Bible has one true interpretation that defines it message, so giving it different perspectives just strays from that one true meaning. Thats why it's best to let the Bible interpret itself. So who's the woman in Rev. 12:1-3?? Ask the Bible:

Gn 37:5 . And Joseph dreamed a dream, and he told [it] his brethren: and they hated him yet the more. Gn 37:9 And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me. Gn 37:10 And he told [it] to his father, and to his brethren: and his father rebuked him, and said unto him, What [is] this dream that thou hast dreamed? Shall I and thy mother and thy brethren indeed come to bow down ourselves to thee to the earth?

In Josephs dream, Dad (Jacob/Israel) was the sun, mom was the moon, and his brothers were the stars. This was the nucleus of the nation of Israel as Dad was named Israel and the children became the 12 tribes. So the sun doesn't represent Jesus (that sounds quite paganish, dont you think?) nor the moon represents Satan (also sounds paganish). Those are simply personal interpretations.

Also you equate Israel as being the Church. This is not so. The Church are Yeshua's called-out ones: His followers, His saints, His body. Israel is His chosen nation, but this nation rejects Yeshua, do not follow Him, do not believe He is the messiah. These are not the same. The "child" is rescued by being caught up to heaven, but the woman flees to the wilderness. Since Jesus was never actually rescued this probably refers to HIm in a different sense; His body (the church). The church is caught up. I believe this is a reference to the rapture. However, Israel runs for her life to the wilderness where God provides for her. Why you say she is being fed by both sides is not understandable. She is running for her life and yet dinning from her very persecutor at the same time?? Where (in the Bible) does it actually say "She is being fed by His prophets, His elect AND by Satan's crew, the "two false witnesses"...pretending to be Godly."


 

 

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Anything in the Bible can be seen in different lights, and thats the problem. ....AND by Satan's crew, the "two false witnesses"...pretending to be Godly."[/i]

She is being proven in the wilderness. God provides food as does the adversary. Case in point...both manna and quail were served in the wilderness to the Israelites. Those that chose quail were punished.

The two witnesses...the MANY two witnesses...feed whom? Themselves?
 

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She is being proven in the wilderness. God provides food as does the adversary. Case in point...both manna and quail were served in the wilderness to the Israelites. Those that chose quail were punished.

The two witnesses...the MANY two witnesses...feed whom? Themselves?


Does the Bible say she is being proven? Or are you interpreting it this way considering the teaching goes that the "wilderness" in the Bible represents testing? Does the Bible say God and the enemy are providing food? Or are you interpreting it that way for whatever reason?

Correct me if i'm wrong, but the Apocalypse doesn;t say any of that. All it says is that she is running for her life, fleeing the cities. Why? Cause Jesus told her to when the time came (Mat. 24:15 onwards). Why? Cause Satan and his Anti-Christ are trying to destroy her.

You don't have to go so deep on this narration. It's not making some multi-dimensional picture of Israel in the end days where every detail and element must be given a standard symbolism and explained from a spiritually philosophical perspective. If the Bible says Israel is fleeing for her life from a powerful destroyer, who is hellbent on destroying her, well........ then that's what it means.
 

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Does the Bible say she is being proven? Or are you interpreting it this way considering the teaching goes that the "wilderness" in the Bible represents testing? Does the Bible say God and the enemy are providing food? Or are you interpreting it that way for whatever reason?


Deuteronomy 13:3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

Deuteronomy 8:2 And thou shalt remember all the way which the LORD thy God led thee these forty years in the wilderness, to humble thee, and to prove thee, to know what was in thine heart, whether thou wouldest keep His commandments, or no.


Correct me if i'm wrong, but the Apocalypse doesn;t say any of that. All it says is that she is running for her life, fleeing the cities. Why? Cause Jesus told her to when the time came (Mat. 24:15 onwards). Why? Cause Satan and his Anti-Christ are trying to destroy her.


There is the great tribulation of Satan (a time of proving with great deception) and THEN the end of this age.

Matthew 24:15-16 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

When you see...when you understand , who and/or what the abomination of desolation is....those of you in Judaea, "those living as followers of the Lord," get into the mountains. Mountains are symbolic of nations. So, those who have the Word of the Lord get busy....start teaching, start warning.​


24:17-19 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

Those on the housetop are His watchmen. They see, they understand as they are being taught by the Father. They are NOT to go back to their house, (their church, their synagouge, their temple or the teachers within), to take any of those teachings...ever again! We must be clothed in the gospel armor and not be caught naked (without Him). Those that "are with child" and "that give suck" are those that fall into apostasy, adultery, with the fake christ, the abominaton....and his vile religion. They're impregnated with his deception and even feed it to give it strength. They have taken the "mark of the beast." They were being proven and....failed.​


You don't have to go so deep on this narration. It's not making some multi-dimensional picture of Israel in the end days where every detail and element must be given a standard symbolism and explained from a spiritually philosophical perspective. If the Bible says Israel is fleeing for her life from a powerful destroyer, who is hellbent on destroying her, well........ then that's what it means.


Understand that those you term Israel...is none other than us, believers. The day of "Jacob's Trouble" applies to us.

Israel is fleeing from a powerful destroyer but many are so blinded that they are fleeing into the destroyer's arms.
 

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Well , basically all i can say is i disagree 100% with everything from that last post. You're going on a personal interpretation spree on something way too simple and straightforward. And your'e using apples and oranges situations (exodus wilderness 40 year wandering with apocalypse fleeing to the wilderness).
 

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Well , basically all i can say is i disagree 100% with everything from that last post. You're going on a personal interpretation spree on something way too simple and straightforward. And your'e using apples and oranges situations (exodus wilderness 40 year wandering with apocalypse fleeing to the wilderness).


1 Corinthians 10:5-6,11 But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness. Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted. (11) Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.