Elijah And The Dreadful Day

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There is a Davidic blood line, sorry. It just doesn't depend on our opinion. Look at some of tim_from_pa's work on this board.

If you want to see the research, do it.

the bible provides us with all the research we need about the davidic line. From the time of the last king Zedekiah, no one has sat on Davids throne because it was fortold that no one would take the throne until a person with the legal right would be given the throne by God.

Ezekiel 21:26, 27 The only one with the legal right to take the throne was Jesus Christ. Isaiah 9:6

Jesus told his followers that the nations would trample the Davidic line, represented by Jerusalem, until the Messiah took the throne. Luke 21:24

And the books of Daniel and revelation tells us exactly how long the gentile times would be....2,520 years. So its not hard to work out from the bible that the only Davidic king to rule after Zedekiah is in fact Jesus Christ. No one else has the legal right and as only God annoints the kings, then no one on earth could possibly be said to be a Davidic king.
 

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Unfortunately the kingship of Judah was only passed onto sons, not daughters. The isrealites did not pass inheritences onto daughters so its absolutely impossible that this idea could hold any ground.

When Nebudchadneza came against King Zedekiah, he had all of the sons of Zedekiah killed and therefore there were no heirs to the throne left.

Jeremiah 39:5-6
6 And the king of Babylon proceeded to slaughter the sons of Zed‧e‧ki′ah in Rib′lah before his eyes, and all the nobles of Judah the king of Babylon slaughtered.


there is no davidic blood line...no one, not even any jews, can trace their bloodline back to the Davidic line because in 70ce the romans destroyed Jerusalems temple and all traces of the bloodline vanished because the records of births was also destroyed.


Of course there is a Davidic blood line...the line passed through the two daughters as God tells us in Scripture. Because males didn't become kings doesn't mean the offspring of the females didn't become kings. If not, then our Father lied. :huh:

Genesis 49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto Him shall the gathering of the people be.​


Of course that is prophetic of Christ but nevertheless....Judah shall have a sceptre until He comes. In ancient times the coronation of the king was as follows.....

2 Kings 11:12 And he brought forth the king's son, and put the crown upon him, and gave him the testimony; and they made him king, and anointed him; and they clapped their hands, and said, God save the king.​


Does that sound familiar? :)

There are two books you may be interested in that go into this. Jacob's Pillar, E.Raymond Capt and Judah's Sceptre and Joseph's Birthright, J.H. Allen.
 

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the bible provides us with all the research we need about the davidic line. From the time of the last king Zedekiah, no one has sat on Davids throne because it was fortold that no one would take the throne until a person with the legal right would be given the throne by God.


I think I see what the problem is, pegg you might be looking only at the throne as it is in Jerusalem. I see the throne as following Israel and Judah. You think everything ended, I don’t. The bloodline has continued where ever Israel has traveled. But you will never understand that or except that, so be it. There is no reason to discuss this any more.
 

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Of course there is a Davidic blood line...the line passed through the two daughters as God tells us in Scripture. Because males didn't become kings doesn't mean the offspring of the females didn't become kings. If not, then our Father lied. :huh:

Genesis 49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto Him shall the gathering of the people be.​
Of course that is prophetic of Christ but nevertheless....Judah shall have a sceptre until He comes. In ancient times the coronation of the king was as follows.....

2 Kings 11:12 And he brought forth the king's son, and put the crown upon him, and gave him the testimony; and they made him king, and anointed him; and they clapped their hands, and said, God save the king.​
Does that sound familiar? :)

There are two books you may be interested in that go into this. Jacob's Pillar, E.Raymond Capt and Judah's Sceptre and Joseph's Birthright, J.H. Allen.

Well you are right, the scripture from Genesis 49:10 shows that the tribe of Judah was to produce the permanent royal heir, however, you also need to look at the prophet Ezekiels words about an interuption to the line of kings. Due to Zedekiah's rebellion against God and seeking help from Egypt for support against Babylon invasion under Nebudchadnezza, Ezekiel was sent to warn him that God had abandoned him and Babylon would succeed in desolating the land of Judah.
Eze 17:15-27

Part of the prophecy stated:
Vs 26 "‘Remove the turban, and lift off the crown. This will not be the same. Put on high even what is low, and bring low even the high one. 27 A ruin, a ruin, a ruin I shall make it. As for this also, it will certainly become no [one’s] until he comes who has the legal right, and I must give [it] to him."

The prophecy says 'it will certainly become no ones until he comes who has the legal right' This is talking about the crown which was lifted off Zedekiah....it represented the Davidic rulership and that is what God said would 'become no one's until he comes who has the legal right'


But that does not affect the prophecy of Genesis at all because Jesus came from the tribe of Judah and he was the one who was given the davidic kingdom...although this time it would be situated in heaven so that it could take rulership of the entire earth.
 

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Well you are right, the scripture from Genesis 49:10 shows that the tribe of Judah was to produce the permanent royal heir, however, you also need to look at the prophet Ezekiels words about an interuption to the line of kings. Due to Zedekiah's rebellion against God and seeking help from Egypt for support against Babylon invasion under Nebudchadnezza, Ezekiel was sent to warn him that God had abandoned him and Babylon would succeed in desolating the land of Judah.
Eze 17:15-27

Part of the prophecy stated:
Vs 26 "‘Remove the turban, and lift off the crown. This will not be the same. Put on high even what is low, and bring low even the high one. 27 A ruin, a ruin, a ruin I shall make it. As for this also, it will certainly become no [one’s] until he comes who has the legal right, and I must give [it] to him."

The prophecy says 'it will certainly become no ones until he comes who has the legal right' This is talking about the crown which was lifted off Zedekiah....it represented the Davidic rulership and that is what God said would 'become no one's until he comes who has the legal right'


But that does not affect the prophecy of Genesis at all because Jesus came from the tribe of Judah and he was the one who was given the davidic kingdom...although this time it would be situated in heaven so that it could take rulership of the entire earth.


I don't have an Ezekiel 17:26-27 in the King James nor do I find the key words, such as ruin, turban, etc to compare it to the King James. Please claify.
 

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im sorry, its Ez 21:26-27


Thank you Pegg :)

Vs 26 "‘Remove the turban, and lift off the crown. This will not be the same. Put on high even what is low, and bring low even the high one. 27 A ruin, a ruin, a ruin I shall make it. As for this also, it will certainly become no [one’s] until he comes who has the legal right, and I must give [it] to him."

The prophecy says 'it will certainly become no ones until he comes who has the legal right' This is talking about the crown which was lifted off Zedekiah....it represented the Davidic rulership and that is what God said would 'become no one's until he comes who has the legal right'

But that does not affect the prophecy of Genesis at all because Jesus came from the tribe of Judah and he was the one who was given the davidic kingdom...although this time it would be situated in heaven so that it could take rulership of the entire earth.


The two passages......

Genesis 49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto Him shall the gathering of the people be.

Ezekiel 21:26-27 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Remove the diadem, and take off the crown: this shall not be the same: exalt him that is low, and abase him that is high. I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more, until he come whose right it is; and I will give it him.​


When Shiloh comes the gathering will be. The gathering hasn't yet happened literally although spiritually we are gathered daily. So, to fulfil the Genesis prophecy the sceptre and a lawgiver is still with Judah. But, as shown in Ezekiel..."this shall not be the same." And, it isn't. We don't see a king of Judah sitting on an earthly throne. They are not recognized as such.

The king, "him that is high," was abased by the king of Babylon but his two daughters, "him that is low," were exalted. They are the "young, tender twigs of the high cedar"...the daughters of the king. Jeremiah took them first to Egypt and then to Scotland. From there their progeny are the kings and queens of Europe. The sceptre hasn't departed yet they aren't recognized as being kings of Judah. As Paul mentioned....Presidents of this nation are included in that heritage. We are the "eminent, high mountain - nation," for we, the house of Israel...Christians, founded this nation as led by our Father.


Ezekiel 17:22-24 Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will also take of the highest branch of the high cedar, and will set it; I will crop off from the top of his young twigs a tender one, and will plant it upon an high mountain and eminent: In the mountain of the height of Israel will I plant it: and it shall bring forth boughs, and bear fruit, and be a goodly cedar: and under it shall dwell all fowl of every wing; in the shadow of the branches thereof shall they dwell. And all the trees of the field shall know that I the LORD have brought down the high tree, have exalted the low tree, have dried up the green tree, and have made the dry tree to flourish: I the LORD have spoken and have done it.​
 

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When Shiloh comes the gathering will be. The gathering hasn't yet happened literally although spiritually we are gathered daily.
im not sure how it can happen spiritually but not literally. The fact is that since the 1st century many nations have been gathered to Christ literally speaking. There are christians in every nation on earth today so to say that the gathering has not happened literally cannot be quite right.

So, to fulfil the Genesis prophecy the sceptre and a lawgiver is still with Judah. But, as shown in Ezekiel..."this shall not be the same." And, it isn't. We don't see a king of Judah sitting on an earthly throne. They are not recognized as such.

The king, "him that is high," was abased by the king of Babylon but his two daughters, "him that is low," were exalted.

i partly agree here...Zedekiah was on high but was brought low, yes. But this idea of his two daughters is just not found in the bible. Jeremiah is not said anywhere of taking anyone to scotland...its a very strange speculation to make and as I said before, only sons could inherit the throne.

What was 'low' was fulfilled in two parts. First it was the gentile nations beginning with Nebudchadnezza as shown in Daniels vision of the huge Tree representing Gods rulership at Daniel 4:13-28 Other nations were considered to be the lowest of mankind. So "him that is low' was put on high when the gentile rulers sat in a position of rulership over Gods people.

And afterward it was fulfilled in Jesus christ according to Paul at Phillipians 2:9 "For this very reason also God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every [other] name". Because the Jews viewed him of little worth, he was low but God exaulted him to the highest position after his resurrection. This is in harmony with the Angels words to Mary at Luke 1:32-33 "...he will be given the throne of David his father and there will be no end to his kingdom"

They are the "young, tender twigs of the high cedar"...the daughters of the king. Jeremiah took them first to Egypt and then to Scotland. From there their progeny are the kings and queens of Europe. The sceptre hasn't departed yet they aren't recognized as being kings of Judah. As Paul mentioned....Presidents of this nation are included in that heritage. We are the "eminent, high mountain - nation," for we, the house of Israel...Christians, founded this nation as led by our Father.

Are you taking into consideration that all the Messianic prophecies refer to him as 'the twig'?

Isaiah 11:1 "And there must go forth a twig out of the stump of Jes′se; and out of his roots a sprout will be fruitful"

Isaiah 53:2 "And he will come up like a twig before one, and like a root out of waterless land. No stately form does he have, nor any splendor; and when we shall see him, there is not the appearance so that we should desire him"

In speaking about Christ, Paul applies the prophecy of Isaiah to Jesusat Romans 15:12 "And again Isaiah says: “There will be the root of Jes′se, and there will be one arising to rule nations; on him nations will rest their hope."

And in Johns vision he is told specifically about Jesus that he is the 'lion' spoken by Jacob in prophecy at Genesis 49:9 "a lion cub is Judah"
Revelation 5:5 "But one of the elders says to me: “Stop weeping. Look! The Lion that is of the tribe of Judah, the root of David, has conquered so as to open the scroll and its seven seals.”


Now Jesus confirmed this in his own words that he is the root of Jesse at Revelation 22:16 “‘I, Jesus, sent my angel to bear witness to YOU people of these things for the congregations. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright morning star.’


So the only conclusion is that Jesus is the tender twig spoken of in Eze 17:22. There is only one twig and that one is Jesus christ.
 
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im not sure how it can happen spiritually but not literally. The fact is that since the 1st century many nations have been gathered to Christ literally speaking. There are christians in every nation on earth today so to say that the gathering has not happened literally cannot be quite right.



i partly agree here...Zedekiah was on high but was brought low, yes. But this idea of his two daughters is just not found in the bible. Jeremiah is not said anywhere of taking anyone to scotland...its a very strange speculation to make and as I said before, only sons could inherit the throne.

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peg, it is called history. The movements of Israel can be seen in history all the way back to the Shepherd Kings in Egypt.

http://www.scripturesforamerica.org/PDF%20Files/Judah%27s%20Sceptre%20and%20Joseph%27s%20Birthright.pdf
 

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peg, it is called history. The movements of Israel can be seen in history all the way back to the Shepherd Kings in Egypt.

http://www.scripture...0Birthright.pdf

Mr J.H Allen has come up with a purely speculative story whereas the scriptures are very clear about the identity of the 'lion of Judah' and the 'twig of Jesse'

There is no evidence that Jeremiah traveled with zedekiahs daughters anywhere...its purely speculative but the information God provides us in the scriptures is not speculative...its 100% certain.
 

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Mr J.H Allen has come up with a purely speculative story whereas the scriptures are very clear about the identity of the 'lion of Judah' and the 'twig of Jesse'

There is no evidence that Jeremiah traveled with zedekiahs daughters anywhere...its purely speculative but the information God provides us in the scriptures is not speculative...its 100% certain.


There is all kinds of evidence from non-Scripture sources but you believe what you want. You will find out whole Israel really is soon.
 

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im not sure how it can happen spiritually but not literally. The fact is that since the 1st century many nations have been gathered to Christ literally speaking. There are christians in every nation on earth today so to say that the gathering has not happened literally cannot be quite right.

The gathering has been spiritually ongoing but the Scripture reads.....

Genesis 49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto Him shall the gathering of the people be.​

The gathering is ongoing and is to Him but "the sceptre" doesn't depart from Judah until He comes. I understand that to mean when He comes again but, if I am wrong and it refers to His first Advent you must still account for the years between Zedekiah's overthrow and the first Advent. The sceptre was never to depart Judah....but it would have departed during that period unless you understand that the kingly line carried on through his daughters. The inheritance passed to them as it did to these daughters.....

Numbers 27:7 The daughters of Zelophehad speak right: thou shalt surely give them a possession of an inheritance among their father's brethren; and thou shalt cause the inheritance of their father to pass unto them.

Numbers 36:2 And they said, The LORD commanded my lord to give the land for an inheritance by lot to the children of Israel: and my lord was commanded by the LORD to give the inheritance of Zelophehad our brother unto his daughters.​


i partly agree here...Zedekiah was on high but was brought low, yes. But this idea of his two daughters is just not found in the bible. Jeremiah is not said anywhere of taking anyone to scotland...its a very strange speculation to make and as I said before, only sons could inherit the throne.


I would again suggest the two books I referred you to before. They're very interesting.



What was 'low' was fulfilled in two parts. First it was the gentile nations beginning with Nebudchadnezza as shown in Daniels vision of the huge Tree representing Gods rulership at Daniel 4:13-28 Other nations were considered to be the lowest of mankind. So "him that is low' was put on high when the gentile rulers sat in a position of rulership over Gods people.

And afterward it was fulfilled in Jesus christ according to Paul at Phillipians 2:9 "For this very reason also God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every [other] name". Because the Jews viewed him of little worth, he was low but God exaulted him to the highest position after his resurrection. This is in harmony with the Angels words to Mary at Luke 1:32-33 "...he will be given the throne of David his father and there will be no end to his kingdom"


The same story, given in types and shadows, runs through the Bible. The same story told over and over with a different cast of characters.


Are you taking into consideration that all the Messianic prophecies refer to him as 'the twig'?

Isaiah 11:1 "And there must go forth a twig out of the stump of Jes′se; and out of his roots a sprout will be fruitful"

Isaiah 53:2 "And he will come up like a twig before one, and like a root out of waterless land. No stately form does he have, nor any splendor; and when we shall see him, there is not the appearance so that we should desire him"


He isn't a twig or a sprout....King James....


Isaiah 11:1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:

53:2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.​


In speaking about Christ, Paul applies the prophecy of Isaiah to Jesusat Romans 15:12 "And again Isaiah says: “There will be the root of Jes′se, and there will be one arising to rule nations; on him nations will rest their hope."

I agree. The root of Jesse is Christ. Christ was not a twig.


And in Johns vision he is told specifically about Jesus that he is the 'lion' spoken by Jacob in prophecy at Genesis 49:9 "a lion cub is Judah"
Revelation 5:5 "But one of the elders says to me: “Stop weeping. Look! The Lion that is of the tribe of Judah, the root of David, has conquered so as to open the scroll and its seven seals.”


Yes but....He is NOT a twig.


Now Jesus confirmed this in his own words that he is the root of Jesse at Revelation 22:16 “‘I, Jesus, sent my angel to bear witness to YOU people of these things for the congregations. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright morning star.’


Yes but...He is NOT a twig.


So the only conclusion is that Jesus is the tender twig spoken of in Eze 17:22. There is only one twig and that one is Jesus christ.


He is the branch...He is not a twig. Please read the passage again.

Ezekiel 17:22-24 Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will also take of the highest branch of the high cedar, and will set it; I will crop off from the top of his young twigs a tender one, and will plant it upon an high mountain and eminent: In the mountain of the height of Israel will I plant it: and it shall bring forth boughs, and bear fruit, and be a goodly cedar: and under it shall dwell all fowl of every wing; in the shadow of the branches thereof shall they dwell. And all the trees of the field shall know that I the LORD have brought down the high tree, have exalted the low tree, have dried up the green tree, and have made the dry tree to flourish: I the LORD have spoken and have done it.​

"From the top of his young twigs a tender one." Do you see Christ being cropped from young twigs? This passage isn't about Him. It is about the daughters of Zedekiah.
 

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He isn't a twig or a sprout....King James....


Isaiah 11:1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:

53:2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.​
I agree. The root of Jesse is Christ. Christ was not a twig.

Yes but....He is NOT a twig.

Yes but...He is NOT a twig.

Let me show you how the Hebrew Interlinear bible puts the verse of Isaiah 11:1
"and·he-comes-forth twig (chtr) from·set-slip-of Jesse and· from·roots-of·him"


Now the King James does puts twig as 'rod' but in the original language the word means a small offshoot. The layer plant is similar but is used So you shouldnt get caught up too much on the actual words found in the King James bible...its a very old bible and at the time it was first translated the hebrew language was not entirely understood. Its imperitive to compare our english translations with the original ....keep this link in your bookmark - HEBREW INTERLINEAR and cross check with the hebrew text before you draw a conclusion.

And just a heads up, many modern translations are actually made from the KJV, so check if the translation is made directly from the original language or if its been translated from an english translation....if its from an english translation, find one from the original language because they are more accurate.
 

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Let me show you how the Hebrew Interlinear bible puts the verse of Isaiah 11:1
"and·he-comes-forth twig (chtr) from·set-slip-of Jesse and· from·roots-of·him"


Now the King James does puts twig as 'rod' but in the original language the word means a small offshoot. The layer plant is similar but is used So you shouldnt get caught up too much on the actual words found in the King James bible...its a very old bible and at the time it was first translated the hebrew language was not entirely understood. Its imperitive to compare our english translations with the original ....keep this link in your bookmark - HEBREW INTERLINEAR and cross check with the hebrew text before you draw a conclusion.

And just a heads up, many modern translations are actually made from the KJV, so check if the translation is made directly from the original language or if its been translated from an english translation....if its from an english translation, find one from the original language because they are more accurate.


Why don't you just look at the Hebrew?
 

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Why don't you just look at the Hebrew?

that is exactly what we should do, unfortunately we dont all speak the language but that doesnt mean we cant look at a hebrew interlinear to get a better idea of the original writings.

i know research takes effort, but its well worth it.
 

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that is exactly what we should do, unfortunately we dont all speak the language but that doesnt mean we cant look at a hebrew interlinear to get a better idea of the original writings.

i know research takes effort, but its well worth it.


Does it tell you what part of speech a word is, it's very important to know if a word is an adjective or adverb or what tense a verb is. Both Hebrew and Greek have verb forms not used in English that do not translate very well.
 

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Does it tell you what part of speech a word is, it's very important to know if a word is an adjective or adverb or what tense a verb is. Both Hebrew and Greek have verb forms not used in English that do not translate very well.

hence why using the hebrew interlinear is a good idea because the translators have already dont the work for you.

If you go in and have a look you'll see that they provide you with the hebrew text. the transliteration and the equivalent english words.
 

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Let me show you how the Hebrew Interlinear bible puts the verse of Isaiah 11:1
"and·he-comes-forth twig (chtr) from·set-slip-of Jesse and· from·roots-of·him"


Now the King James does puts twig as 'rod' but in the original language the word means a small offshoot. The layer plant is similar but is used So you shouldnt get caught up too much on the actual words found in the King James bible...its a very old bible and at the time it was first translated the hebrew language was not entirely understood. Its imperitive to compare our english translations with the original ....keep this link in your bookmark - HEBREW INTERLINEAR and cross check with the hebrew text before you draw a conclusion.

And just a heads up, many modern translations are actually made from the KJV, so check if the translation is made directly from the original language or if its been translated from an english translation....if its from an english translation, find one from the original language because they are more accurate.


Hi Pegg,


I would NEVER use the new and improved versions over the King James...NEVER! I can't tell you how many times, when comparing translations, we see the attempt to make understanding easier for the reader has done just the opposite and totally muddied, and at times, completely changed the meaning of His Word. That doesn't mean the KJV is perfect for it isn't but when you use the KJV, the concordance and (as you point out) the interlinear as a cross check....that is most accurate.

I go back to the original topic. Christ is NOT a twig. I ask you to again consider the passage under discussion in which the term twigs is used and to me...it cannot be applied to Christ. This is not about Him. Trying to debate the difference in Branch and twigs isn't the point....delve into the subject of the sentence and apply it to the topic under discussion. The daughters of Zedekiah.


Ezekiel 17:22-24 Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will also take of the highest branch of the high cedar, and will set it; I will crop off from the top of his young twigs a tender one, and will plant it upon an high mountain and eminent: In the mountain of the height of Israel will I plant it: and it shall bring forth boughs, and bear fruit, and be a goodly cedar: and under it shall dwell all fowl of every wing; in the shadow of the branches thereof shall they dwell. And all the trees of the field shall know that I the LORD have brought down the high tree, have exalted the low tree, have dried up the green tree, and have made the dry tree to flourish: I the LORD have spoken and have done it.

God will take the highest branch of the high cedar...... Who is that? How would that apply to Christ?
This high cedar had young twigs........ Who is that? How would that apply to Christ?
The Lord brought down the high tree....... Who is that? How would that apply to Christ?
He exalted the low tree........ Who is that? How would that apply to Christ?​

If you say the highest branch of the high cedar was Christ the branch from God, then God would be the high cedar. Then who are the "young twigs" the "tender one" was from? If the passage was about Christ and God, God being the "high tree," then how do you reckon that "the Lord have brought down the high tree?"

Christ is not the twig or twigs under discussion. The daughters of Zedekiah received the inheritance in the kingly line of Judah and that line continues today.
 

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that comment in itself is enough reason to reject the idea entirely.


Pegg, I fear your comment shows that you are not willing to accept this. It isn't incumbent upon me to force you to believe anything. You haven't answered the questions I asked that should be answered if indeed the twig was Christ as you are saying. Also, I provided scripture showing the inheritance going to daughters of Israel, which verifies the fact that the inheritance of the kingly line could lawfully pass through Zedekiah's daughters and will repeat them. It is up to you to see what is written.

Numbers 27:7 The daughters of Zelophehad speak right: thou shalt surely give them a possession of an inheritance among their father's brethren; and thou shalt cause the inheritance of their father to pass unto them.

Numbers 36:2 And they said, The LORD commanded my lord to give the land for an inheritance by lot to the children of Israel: and my lord was commanded by the LORD to give the inheritance of Zelophehad our brother unto his daughters.​

I also ask that you watch this rather poorly done video. It gives you some information on the Stone of Scone, which has everything to do with this topic. It may lead you into further study...or not. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wURr3x2Zb_w