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The Bible says we're to labor to enter into God's rest.

Sure. I already have.

But man wants conventional rest.

Not sure what you mean by conventional rest...
But I do rest my body with sleep.

The Bible is clear what God's rest means. On the sixth day the whole earth was very good.

Ok.

THEN God entered HIS rest. Today it's in ruins.

Today "it's" in Ruins?
Looks like you are saying ...Gods Rest is the Earth...and "it's" (Gods Rest), is in Ruins...

Is that correct?
 

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Today "it's" in Ruins?
Looks like you are saying ...Gods Rest is the Earth...and "it's" (Gods Rest), is in Ruins...
No. I'm saying when he went into his rest, he left the earth in very good condition, with man overseeing it. He's neglected and ruined it since the day of transgression. Why does the Bible say in many places, in many ways, such things uniform with the way it's written in Revelation, "And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and SHOULDEST DESTROY THEM WHICH DESTROY THE EARTH."
 

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No. I'm saying when he went into his rest, he left the earth in very good condition, with man overseeing it. He's neglected and ruined it since the day of transgression. Why does the Bible say in many places, in many ways, such things uniform with the way it's written in Revelation, "And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and SHOULDEST DESTROY THEM WHICH DESTROY THE EARTH."
Isaiah 11:10-11 KJV
[10] And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious. [11] And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.
The rest in my opinion has nothing to do with the ecology of the planet.
 

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That rest we're to LABOR to enter into, until he comes. Labor is necessarily towards something. What conditioned God's rest? The place being very good.
 

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Zechariah 1:8-11 KJV
[8] I saw by night, and behold a man riding upon a red horse, and he stood among the myrtle trees that were in the bottom; and behind him were there red horses, speckled, and white. [9] Then said I, O my lord, what are these? And the angel that talked with me said unto me, I will shew thee what these be. [10] And the man that stood among the myrtle trees answered and said, These are they whom the Lord hath sent to walk to and fro through the earth. [11] And they answered the angel of the Lord that stood among the myrtle trees, and said, We have walked to and fro through the earth, and, behold, all the earth sitteth still, and is at rest.
 

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Zechariah 1:8-11 KJV
[8] I saw by night, and behold a man riding upon a red horse, and he stood among the myrtle trees that were in the bottom; and behind him were there red horses, speckled, and white. [9] Then said I, O my lord, what are these? And the angel that talked with me said unto me, I will shew thee what these be. [10] And the man that stood among the myrtle trees answered and said, These are they whom the Lord hath sent to walk to and fro through the earth. [11] And they answered the angel of the Lord that stood among the myrtle trees, and said, We have walked to and fro through the earth, and, behold, all the earth sitteth still, and is at rest.
It’s just my opinion that Christ rides all five horses of revelation. I know man has came up with this opinion that som demonic force opposing Him, this is only denying what He has already accomplished.
 

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Zechariah 1:8-11 KJV
[8] I saw by night, and behold a man riding upon a red horse, and he stood among the myrtle trees that were in the bottom; and behind him were there red horses, speckled, and white. [9] Then said I, O my lord, what are these? And the angel that talked with me said unto me, I will shew thee what these be. [10] And the man that stood among the myrtle trees answered and said, These are they whom the Lord hath sent to walk to and fro through the earth. [11] And they answered the angel of the Lord that stood among the myrtle trees, and said, We have walked to and fro through the earth, and, behold, all the earth sitteth still, and is at rest.
Those were horses. If the earth has horses it's at rest. We have automobiles whizzing everywhere. It's not at rest.
 
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Today it's in ruins.


Isaiah 28:21-24 For the Lord shall rise up as in mount Perazim, he shall be wroth as in the valley of Gibeon, that he may do his work, his strange work; and bring to pass his act, his strange act. [22] Now therefore be ye not mockers, lest your bands be made strong: for I have heard from the Lord God of hosts a consumption, even determined upon the whole earth. [23] Give ye ear, and hear my voice; hearken, and hear my speech. [24] Doth the plowman plow all day to sow? doth he open and break the clods of his ground?

‘I have heard from the Lord God of hosts a consumption, even determined upon the whole earth’

what is ‘a consumption, even determined upon ‘the whole earth’

Topical Bible: Consumption

A wasting away... you said ‘ruin’ but there is good news yeah? Isaiah 58:9-12 Then shalt thou call, and the Lord shall answer; thou shalt cry, and he shall say, Here I am. If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger, and speaking vanity; (Jude 1:16-18) These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage. [17] But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; [18] How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
With the above ‘Now therefore be ye not mockers, lest your bands be made strong: for I have heard from the Lord God of hosts a consumption, even determined upon the whole earth.’


19] And if thou draw out thy soul to the hungry, and satisfy the afflicted soul; then shall thy light rise in obscurity, and thy darkness be as the noonday: [11] And the Lord shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought, and make fat thy bones: and thou shalt be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters fail not. [12] And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in.
 
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Isaiah 28:21-24 For the Lord shall rise up as in mount Perazim, he shall be wroth as in the valley of Gibeon, that he may do his work, his strange work; and bring to pass his act, his strange act. [22] Now therefore be ye not mockers, lest your bands be made strong: for I have heard from the Lord God of hosts a consumption, even determined upon the whole earth. [23] Give ye ear, and hear my voice; hearken, and hear my speech. [24] Doth the plowman plow all day to sow? doth he open and break the clods of his ground?

‘I have heard from the Lord God of hosts a consumption, even determined upon the whole earth’

what is ‘a consumption, even determined upon ‘the whole earth’

Topical Bible: Consumption

A wasting away... you said ‘ruin’ but there is good news yeah? Isaiah 58:9-12 Then shalt thou call, and the Lord shall answer; thou shalt cry, and he shall say, Here I am. If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger, and speaking vanity; (Jude 1:16-18) These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage. [17] But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; [18] How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
With the above ‘Now therefore be ye not mockers, lest your bands be made strong: for I have heard from the Lord God of hosts a consumption, even determined upon the whole earth.’


19] And if thou draw out thy soul to the hungry, and satisfy the afflicted soul; then shall thy light rise in obscurity, and thy darkness be as the noonday: [11] And the Lord shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought, and make fat thy bones: and thou shalt be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters fail not. [12] And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in.
Paise God, His rest is glorious! He is the righteous mammon.
 

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No. I'm saying when he went into his rest, he left the earth in very good condition, with man overseeing it.

So -
• Gods REST...is one thing.
• And the "it" you mentioned..."as Ruined", is a completely separate issue...that being ...
• "IT" is supposedly the "Earth", you say men have "completely ruined".
And
• BY your assessment...HOW "men" "HAVE" completely "ruined the Earth"...
• is BY "men" LABORING"... for "Businesses" that provide "Work for exchange of pay"?

You skip Forward to wondering WHY something is written in Scripture....
Without providing ANY FACTS for your conclusions.

What are the basis for you FACTS...???
1) a man's LABOR, has Completely Destroyed the Earth?
2) that the Earth is completely destroyed?
3) What is the "relevant" Connection of a man's labor, to a man being IN GODS REST?
 

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You see it, come to me all you that labor and are burdened and I shall give you rest?
That's not the complete thought: "Take my yoke upon you, for my yoke is easy and my burden is light." We have to work. But he makes our hard work easy to bear. But his work is in Gen 1. Human works have adulterated the planet. The blessing we should keep in sight is the very blessing he instituted when he blessed Adam in Gen 1. The Church has altogether ignored it.
 

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So -
• Gods REST...is one thing.
• And the "it" you mentioned..."as Ruined", is a completely separate issue...that being ...
• "IT" is supposedly the "Earth", you say men have "completely ruined".
And
• BY your assessment...HOW "men" "HAVE" completely "ruined the Earth"...
• is BY "men" LABORING"... for "Businesses" that provide "Work for exchange of pay"?

You skip Forward to wondering WHY something is written in Scripture....
Without providing ANY FACTS for your conclusions.

What are the basis for you FACTS...???
1) a man's LABOR, has Completely Destroyed the Earth?
2) that the Earth is completely destroyed?
3) What is the "relevant" Connection of a man's labor, to a man being IN GODS REST?
It's not explainable. It's learnt or taught by careful study. It's on every page.
 

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This was the blessing he gave in the beginning, with an instruction:

28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. 29And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. 30And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. 31And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

The place should be like it was on the sixth day, if we're to labor to enter in to the seventh day, that day being set apart, for the church to labor into to enter.
 

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(Raises left hand) "I got my mind on my money, and my money on my mind"
(Raises right hand) "Money comes, and money goes, any thing more than that comes from evil."
He is faithful even when we are faithless.
 

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(Raises left hand) "I got my mind on my money, and my money on my mind"
(Raises right hand) "Money comes, and money goes, any thing more than that comes from evil."
He is faithful even when we are faithless.
He says don't use God's grace as a license for sin.
 

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He says don't use God's grace as a license for sin.

Blessings to you! So that you might understand, The left hand represents the world, and the right hand represents Faith in Jesus. Do you now see how they oppose one another such as serving two masters.