Elijah And The Dreadful Day

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Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

When the bible speaks of the Alpha and Omega, the Almighty, who WAS and IS and IS TO COME, is it speaking about three different Christs or three different Gods? If not, why would it be speaking about different Elijahs? The Spirit of Elijah is also the Spirit of God who was and is and is to come.

God is always there before judgment, during judgment and after judgment. He is always the same. His Spirit is the SAME Spirit of Christ which was before Christ was born and after Christ died.
Jesus existed before He was born and so did Elijah and they still exist after the body in which they once dwelled disappears. The Spirit returns in another body.

Elijah/ Elias = "my God is Jehovah" or "Yah(u) is God"
Elisha = "God is salvation"

Which Spirit was and is and always will be in Jesus?
Which Spirit is in you ?

The law and the prophets lead us to God who is salvation.

The law and the prophets were UNTIL John.

Are you still living in the time of the law and the prophets or are you living in the time where the law and the prophets have ALL been fulfilled IN, through and by Jesus Christ who told us to follow His example and do the same as He does?

Are you living in a mere " down payment" of the Spirit to come or are you living and abiding in a double portion of the Spirit of God? Have you been redeemed by the blood of Jesus or are you not yet redeemed?


2 Kings 2:9 And it came to pass, when they were gone over, that Elijah said unto Elisha, Ask what I shall do for thee, before I be taken away from thee. And Elisha said, I pray thee, let a double portion of thy spirit be upon me.

John 5:20 For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.

John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater [works] than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

John 5: 36 But I have greater witness than [that] of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me.

Greater (meizōn) = larger, elder, stronger, more




It does not surprise me at all that the carnal mind never agrees with the Mind of Christ.
The trumpets of God all were and are and are to come for all eternity.
The seven spirits of God are all past present and future. at the same time.
The Alpha and Omega is the first and the last for all eternity. He WAS and IS and IS TO COME for ever.

Jesus IS the seventh trump of God. Those who have ears to hear will hear what the seven angels said in the past, are saying today in this present time and will always say for all eternity. They all say the same thing for all eternity. The word of God does not change.

I am in Him and He is in me.

I hear the seventh trumpet daily. When the Lord gives you ears to hear, you will hear Him too.

The promises of God are all past present and future at the same time.

If any man have ears to hear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches, Yesterday Today and For ever.



You are quite wrong....on several points and I must tell you that I find your "holier than thou" attitude laughable and tiresome. Please heed the following.....


1 Corinthians 13:3-5 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing. Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;


1 Timothy 6:3-5 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself​
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skyangel

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Jesus rebelled against the devil? Don't you have that a tad backward?

No, not when you understand that the rebellion is mutual just like the rejection between them is mutual and like the enmity between them is mutual.
The word rebel in Hebrew is "marad" which means to revolt or resist authority
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According to the urban dictionary , A true rebel stands up for what they believe is right, not against what's right.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rebel
Acording to Merriam-Webster dictionary, to rebel means opposing or taking arms against a government or rule.

Jesus opposed the government or authority of the devil in his life in the same way the devil opposed the government or authority of Jesus and wanted Jesus to submit to him.

Look at the concept in reality. God rejects those who reject Him, opposes those who oppose Him, Hates those who hate him, etc. The rebellion and rejection is mutual. The carnal rebels against the spiritual and vice versa at all times. They are always at enmity with each other. Enmity includes hatred hostility and conflict.





whirlwind said:
The king of Babylon IS NOT, nor ever hast been, nor ever shall be God The Father! Jesus is God, He is NOT the servant of God.

I am saying that God is ultimately in charge of everything including the devil and the king of babylon and any other king on the planet spiritually as well as physically. No one, no man and no spirit can do anything that God does not allow them to do in the first place. All Gods creation, His Sons and daughters including Jesus and the devil are all subject to His will and can do nothing outside the will of God.

The devil cannot do one thing without Gods permission in the first place. He had to ask permission for doing what he did to Job, did he not?

Jesus is the Son of God and the servant of God according to the word of God. " Behold my servant" . Isaiah 42:1-4, Matt 12:18-21

Do you have any scriptures which say Jesus is not the servant of God? if not, why do you think He is not the servant of God when scripture clearly says He is God's servant?
 

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That passage saying we have "received an EARNEST of the spirit ... " ?

Yeah, pretty much means down payment.

We are NOT redeemed, we are living in obedience and expectation of His redemption .... persevering til the end.

Not putting words in your mouth here, (admittedly not reading everything) but to think otherwise is edging close to once saved always saved.



Look up what teshuvah and geulah mean to the Jews.



You cant return just a little bit ...

A child in the womb is living in expectation of birth and so is the mother who is carrying that child. Once the child is born they cannot go back into the womb can they? When you come out of the darkness of the womb into the light , you can see what you never imagined you would ever see when you were in the womb.

Most people who think they have been born again are not born again at all in the spiritual sense but are merely a spiritual fetus in the spiritual womb waiting to be born. They are still in darkness waiting to be perfected to the stage of birth and ready to be born. God does not give birth to imperfect underdeveloped babies.
The planting of the seed of God in the hearts of men is not a new birth but simply the beginning of the growth of the seed. Some of those seeds fall by the way side and never mature to the stage of coming to fruition or being born. They are like the sperm ( seed) which never make it to the egg ( heart ) and never become a new born child of God.

Once born always born but that does not mean you cannot die after you are born.

I do not believe in "once saved always saved". Since that would mean you are left without a choice.
 

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You are quite wrong....on several points and I must tell you that I find your "holier than thou" attitude laughable and tiresome. Please heed the following.....


1 Corinthians 13:3-5 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing. Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;


1 Timothy 6:3-5 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself​
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My words are not my own but His that sent me. If you think HIS words are "Holier than thou" then you are perfectly right. in your opinion and judgment.

Of myself I can do nothing.
I am dead . Dead people can do and say nothing of themselves and are not offended by anyone who thinks they are holier than them..
However, I do appreciate you placing me on that pedestal in your mind. Thank you.
Jesus was also hung up higher than those who crucified Him because they thought He was too big for his boots and ought not make Himself equal with God, so they ridiculed Him for it and crucified Him for it.
I am that I am.
I am in Him and He is in me.

I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people.
 

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According to the urban dictionary , A true rebel stands up for what they believe is right, not against what's right.
http://www.urbandict....php?term=rebel


I cant imagine a less credible source for anything that isnt blatantly humanistic.

You do understand this website is user-driven right ?

If I wanted to define ping-pong as the greatest celebration of man's spiritual development in the history of the universe and enough bozos who visit that site liked what I wrote then it would be the number one definition for that entry.
 

whirlwind

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My words are not my own but His that sent me. If you think HIS words are "Holier than thou" then you are perfectly right. in your opinion and judgment.



I didn't refer to His Words Skyangel....it was your words I was speaking of. Please read back over your replies. Do you hear or see Christ in them?


Of myself I can do nothing.
I am dead . Dead people can do and say nothing of themselves and are not offended by anyone who thinks they are holier than them..
However, I do appreciate you placing me on that pedestal in your mind. Thank you.
Jesus was also hung up higher than those who crucified Him because they thought He was too big for his boots and ought not make Himself equal with God, so they ridiculed Him for it and crucified Him for it.
I am that I am.
I am in Him and He is in me.

I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people.


You assume a great deal.