Satan's great deception is having unbelievers thinking that they are saved and on their way to heaven just because they were baptized as a baby or later on in life. ====A LIE FROM THE PIT OF HELL!!
God's Word does ""not"" teach that baptism is essential for salvation.
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Oh, I get it now.
So, God is a LIAR who accepted 8-day-old BABIES into the Covenant in the OT based on the faith of their parents - but He doesn't do the same for the babies receiving the Circumcision of Christ?
THAT'S your position??
A "Covenant" by definition is a BINDING AGREEMENT.
HOW can an 8-day-old baby enter into a binding agreement if they don't have use of reason??
I'll wait right here for yor answer . . .
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I don't know who's been telling you that.
Baptism isn't a "guarantee" that you'll go to Heaven or remain in God's grace.
Why would you make such a ridiculous claim?
ALL babies weather baptized or not if they die go to heaven BUT no one of any age is saved or will go to heaven just because they were baptized Understand truth!!
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You DODGED the question, Einstein.,
Here it is again:
So, God is a LIAR who accepted 8-day-old BABIES into the Covenant in the OT based on the faith of their parents - but He doesn't do the same for the babies receiving the Circumcision of Christ?
THAT'S your position??
I ALSO asked you the following:
A "Covenant" by definition is a BINDING AGREEMENT.
HOW can an 8-day-old baby enter into a binding agreement if they don't have use of reason??
Just stick to answering the questions as asked . . .
LOL!! Little babies make no """Covenant" by definition is a BINDING AGREEMENT"" but are counted innocent until the age of accountability weather baptized or not baptized!.
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WRONG.
I pointed to the Covenant under the Law in the OT.
8-day-old babies entered into the Covenant with God through CIRCUMCISION.
HOW can a baby enter a Covenant in the OT - but NOT the NT?
Can you at least answer that question without dancing around it?
I believe he means the act of baptism in itself has no power to save. Only the blood of Jesus covers our sins.
Let's all be Bible students and learn from each other in humbleness and love. Harsh answers destroys the fellowship of Godly Counsel and Wisdom....just an fyi brother...I personally could never learn from a teacher who is arrogant and condescending....which your post tend to be.
Be gentle..
God Bless
Little babies make no """Covenant" by definition is a BINDING AGREEMENT"" but are counted innocent until the age of accountability weather baptized or not baptized!.
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But nobody else is "arrogant" or "condescending" when they attack MY beliefs?
Interesting.
Anyway - I know exactly what he means, as I have read the posts in this thread. I simply pointed to the fact that it is BECAUSE of what Jesus did that we can be regenerated by Baptism.
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In other words - you CAN'T answer the question.
That's pretty much what I thought.
Thank you for revealing your false teaching.
BECAUSE of what Jesus did that we can be regenerated by believing in and accepting Jesus as our Lord and Savior and then obey and be baptized!!!
God knows our hearts and brain condition==no one need fear being judged unjustly by Almighty God.!!
Don't get defensive...there have been plenty who have been less than edifying with their words....and some have been permanently banned. We don't need anymore strife....not here...we have to deal with it enough as it is with the way the world is becoming.
I would love this place to be a sanctuary of peace where people come and get recharged and go back out to deal with the world with confidence and joy.
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Perhaps - depending on the severity of their condition.
However - they don't have full use of their faculties.
There are MANY conditions that rob people of the full use of their faculties.
A person cannot be held fully accountable unless they have full use.
John 9:41
Jesus said to them, “If you were blind, you would have no guilt; but now that you say, ‘We see,’ your guilt remains.
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Fair enough.
Just as long as everybody is being held to the same standards here.
I understand and I promise you all are held to the same standards..I may not see every thread but I try.
And let me say this...I have had to address some here who I love dearly and would have rather turn and look the other way but that's not how I operate...i even chastise myself (lol).
Even adults with a child's mental capacity can know right from wrong.
Baptizing a baby is less than mental.
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