John the Baptist & Elijah

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God Willing, someone will be able to clear something up for me. We know that in New Testament times, the Jews were still expecting the fulfillment of the prophecy of "One like Moses" (Deut. 18:15,18). When Jesus claimed to be the Messiah of the Jews, the Jews began to inquire as to where Elijah was. The Jews had a parallel prophecy that before the coming of the Messiah, Elijah must come first in his second coming. Jesus confirms this Jewish belief:"Elijah shall come, and he is to restore all things; but I tell you that Elijah has already come, and they did not know him,...then the disciples understood that he was speaking to them of John the Baptist." (Matthew 17:11-13)But then in the Gospel according to John it says: "And this is the testimony of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, Who are you?" (The Christ, the Messiah) He confessed, he did not deny, but confessed, "I am not the Christ." And they asked him, "What then? Are you Elijah?" He said, "I am not." "Are you the prophet?" And he answered, "No." They asked him, "Then why are you baptizing, if you are neither the Christ, nor Elijah, nor the prophet?" (John 1:19-25)The question is, why is it that in Matthew, Elijah is understood to be John the Baptist, but in the Gospel of John, John denies being the Christ, Elijah, and "that Prophet" (Deut. 18:18)?
 
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Surrounding Scripture belays this for us, saying it is one who would come in the spirit of Elijah, not the physical person. Throughout we read of types and shadows, then we read of them being called such. There were also many types that prefigured the Christ, but they were not the Christ. In Scripture we also see this inversely.Malachi concludes with the promise of the sending of Elijah before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord. Speaking of John the Baptist, the Lord said to His disciples, ‘If ye will receive (it), this is Elias (Elijah) which was for to come’ (Matt. 11:14).But the Scriptures do not leave us at that point, it moves forward in the outworking of God, where we find that the apostles, remembering with divinely opened understanding all the Lord’s teaching, and all the teaching of the Old Testament, should say, ‘Lord, wilt Thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?’Was John the Baptist Elijah? No (John 1:21). Yes (Matt. 11:14, and 17:12).We can see Israel having this choice throughout the Gospel accounts, and then throughout the entire Acts period letters. Until. Until something happened. And what happened was well founded upon the contingency provided, one blessed with refreshing (including all that terrible which must be fulfilled in the revelation), the other one deferred till the times of the gentiles be fulfilled. One choice would bring in the terrible time of Jacob's trouble and the coming of the Lord, while the other would post pone these things wherein God would not be their God (Lo-ammi), but it was a choice which Israel was given to make as a nation. That is what happened to Israel. And if the apostle was not inspired to write seven more epistles, the end of the Word of truth would have been that Israel finally divorced God and were then blinded ~Act 28:25 And when they agreed not among themselves, they departed (Gr. apoluō = divorced), after that Paul had spoken one word, Well spake the Holy Ghost by Isaiah the prophet unto our fathers,G630ἀπολύωapoluōap-ol-oo'-oFrom G575 and G3089; to free fully, that is, (literally) relieve, release, dismiss (reflexively depart), or (figuratively) let die, pardon, or (specifically) divorce: - (let) depart, dismiss, divorce, forgive, let go, loose, put (send) away, release, set at liberty.Then Isaiah 6:9-10 is quoted for the third and final time. And that is how The Bible would have ended if the apostle wasn't given something further to reveal. Namely, the mystery, which is, of course, no longer a mystery now that God has revealed it.
 

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I say Paul wrote more than seven espistle, we just do not have them. This is a propositional thought:If they had believed John and also had believed Jesus was Messiah, would they not have been then the end of the age and John have been the coming of Elijah instead of being the spirit? And would not God have ended all things at that time? but of course God knew all things to come..God has reveal all things but how many have eyes to see and ears to hear?
 

Christina

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I understood that If Israel had accepted Christ as the messiah John would have been Elijahand the End would have come but there would have been no need for the time of Jacobs trouble because Satan would have been defeated.
 

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Guys, don't waste your time on this lesson. This person decided to lie about his beliefs and post articles from a variety of Islamic websites. It's all nonsense and this user has been banned. I have no problem with a Muslim. I do have a problem with liars.