UK first Western country in the world to approve a Covid-19 Vaccine

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There's only going to be around 20 million doses available by year end.

Hardly a drop in the bucket of what is needed.

I'm more than happy there are antivaxers and vaccine avoiders and delayers....

It allows me to get mine. Helps loads.

I guess they don't care about getting post-covid brain fog.
Maybe we could try a new campaign where we tell people that Hemlock is the cure for covid. It's not poison but a real cure....muah ha ha ha. (Evil laugh)
 

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Great news, hopefully there's no problems with it medically! The USA is next perhaps. They've been talking about approving it in a week also.
First shots go out tomorrow I think... definitely by the weekend.
 
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Relevant article on the NEW Pfizer Vaccine... both interesting and plausible in its short conclusions

Mask Control: Prove COVID-19 exists...I dare you!

Where I am not going to debate the "interesting" adjective...
"Plausible" is most assuredly debatable.

The details of the raw data is available for anyone who wants to view it. NEJM has published them.

Further scrutinized by various Governments and access to those who experienced outlier effects from the vaccine. Including those who had any symptoms whatsoever from the 44,000+ patients who participated... including the placebo group.

One of the things that got the EUA is that the Government has access and a copy of the formulas and procedures for manufacturing the Vaccines.
Where we really don't want to hand this out to Governments that aren't exactly friendly with us...we don't mind giving them Vaccines.

So....
This is more fear Mongering and worthless conspiracies that in no way represent reality.

No one is capable of hiding anything in these Vaccines because the whole world is watching.
 

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Where I am not going to debate the "interesting" adjective...
"Plausible" is most assuredly debatable.

The details of the raw data is available for anyone who wants to view it. NEJM has published them.

Further scrutinized by various Governments and access to those who experienced outlier effects from the vaccine. Including those who had any symptoms whatsoever from the 44,000+ patients who participated... including the placebo group.

One of the things that got the EUA is that the Government has access and a copy of the formulas and procedures for manufacturing the Vaccines.
Where we really don't want to hand this out to Governments that aren't exactly friendly with us...we don't mind giving them Vaccines.

So....
This is more fear Mongering and worthless conspiracies that in no way represent reality.

No one is capable of hiding anything in these Vaccines because the whole world is watching.
Maybe you should like at this last phrase of yours in a very non-classical way..maybe you are duped....it is a bold form of mind-control used by the CIA for years now..

This vaccine fraud as with the elections are in plain view and the world is watching indeed,,,this 'in your face' bold psychological ploy and fraud is working on most people....as I see it anyway
 

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Maybe you should like at this last phrase of yours in a very non-classical way..maybe you are duped....it is a bold form of mind-control used by the CIA for years now..

This vaccine fraud as with the elections are in plain view and the world is watching indeed,,,this 'in your face' bold psychological ploy and fraud is working on most people....as I see it anyway
The WHOLE WORLD is watching... including scientists.
 

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The WHOLE WORLD is watching... including scientists.
And there are many more that are not political or hooked in by gain, that think it's a fraud...you won't get to read their testimonies however, because the MSM oppose their truth from being aired, for obvious reasons.

I guess I was not clear before. The world is watching indeed, ONLY what you are allowed to see, hear and read...the MSM are all owned and controlled by the elite , and they run a lot of what is on the internet as well. Most of what you see, read, and hear outside your home or community or town is filtered and controlled to a large extent.
 
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And there are many more that are not political or hooked in by gain, that think it's a fraud...you won't get to read their testimonies however, because the MSM oppose their truth from being aired, for obvious reasons.

I guess I was not clear before. The world is watching indeed, ONLY what you are allowed to see, hear and read...the MSM are all owned and controlled by the elite , and they run a lot of what is on the internet as well. Most of what you see, read, and hear outside your home or community or town is filtered and controlled to a large extent.

OK...
But I'm not reading politically bent journals...I'm reading scientific journals that aren't political like MSM or any of those politically bent right wing and conspiracy theory sites you are fond of.

And I've changed my mind...
I'm so far down the list of getting a vaccine that I'm happy that you aren't going to get one. Refuse it and get as many people as possible to refuse it. So I can get mine ASAP.
 
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Exactly... And it won't be long till they force another shot for the flu and another for the common cold and this and that... If it was up to them we would all be talking multiple shots every year...
You know what's really twisted? This just came to me. In America at least, if you produce a consumable product for retail sale to the public, by law you have to give full disclosure of its ingredients. And for various reasons.

With a vaccine, you have no chance of knowing what that person, because pharmacies also give the flu shot, is that a doctor in the house, is injecting via a needle into your bloodstream! And that will alter your immune system and impact your physical health FOREVER!

I have to know what's in the refrigerated ranch dressing I purchased at the grocery today. But I have no way of knowing what's in the flu vaccine? And the powers that be are talking about making that unknown serum a compulsory injection? What's that going to be like? Income Tax? "Enforced Compliance"? Pay or we take everything!
Get the vaccine or you'll have nothing?
 
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And there are many more that are not political or hooked in by gain, that think it's a fraud...you won't get to read their testimonies however, because the MSM oppose their truth from being aired, for obvious reasons.

I guess I was not clear before. The world is watching indeed, ONLY what you are allowed to see, hear and read...the MSM are all owned and controlled by the elite , and they run a lot of what is on the internet as well. Most of what you see, read, and hear outside your home or community or town is filtered and controlled to a large extent.
It's like what has been said since the invention of the radio and television respectively, as pertains to "news". You only know what you're told.

But today people can blast the truth and others can receive it and blast and so on and so on. And yet, with all that technology that allows us to release the truth of what happens at the scene of a crime, etc... MSM and its owners still control the narrative.
 
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Not true...
They do have an HIV vaccine. It's expensive and only lasts 6-12 months. There's even a cure if you can afford it.

Cancer treatment is a question of money. There's a variety of causes...many are curable today but your average health insurance policy won't cover them. They always want the cheapest means possible that are very ineffective.

The common cold viruses?
You are talking about thousands of viruses...no one has a shot for that.
 

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The UK is the first Western Country in the world to approve a coronavirus vaccine, they have approved the Pfizer/BioNtech vaccine for use for next week. It is said to be 95% effective.

Covid Pfizer vaccine approved for use next week in UK

Josho,

Australia is more cautious in accepting a new vaccine.

This is Australia's and Prime Minister Scott Morrison's view:

The Federal Government says it is prioritising the safety of Australians, as it waits on four vaccine candidates to pass certain stages in their approval process.

The Australian Government has signed a deal to take 10 million doses of the Pfizer vaccine, which will cover 5 million people based on the two doses needed. But the Government is standing firm on its original plan despite developments in the UK, with a decision on Australian approval expected at the end of January and a planned first vaccine delivery in March, 2021 (ABC News, Brisbane, "How Australia's planned COVID-19 vaccine rollout compares to United Kingdom, United States and Russia's coronavirus response."​
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Josho,

Australia is more cautious in accepting a new vaccine.

This is Australia's and Prime Minister Scott Morrison's view:

The Federal Government says it is prioritising the safety of Australians, as it waits on four vaccine candidates to pass certain stages in their approval process.


The Australian Government has signed a deal to take 10 million doses of the Pfizer vaccine, which will cover 5 million people based on the two doses needed. But the Government is standing firm on its original plan despite developments in the UK, with a decision on Australian approval expected at the end of January and a planned first vaccine delivery in March, 2021 (ABC News, Brisbane, "How Australia's planned COVID-19 vaccine rollout compares to United Kingdom, United States and Russia's coronavirus response."

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Spencer!!!!
I've missed you!

Keep your head down and stay safe.
 

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Spencer!!!!
I've missed you!

Keep your head down and stay safe.

JohnDB,

I'm writing Christian academic articles for journals, based on my PhD dissertation (dissertation-only in the British system). That is occupying most of my time at the moment. It took me 5 years of research to write the dissertation that can be found as, "Crossan and the resurrection of Jesus : rethinking presuppositions, methods and models".

Be warned! It's 480pp long and that includes 60pp of bibliography. There are lots of challenges in taking sections to submit to journals.

Blessings,
Oz
 
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JohnDB,

I'm writing Christian academic articles for journals, based on my PhD dissertation (dissertation-only in the British system). That is occupying most of my time at the moment. It took me 5 years of research to write the dissertation that can be found as, "Crossan and the resurrection of Jesus : rethinking presuppositions, methods and models".

Be warned! It's 480pp long and that includes 60pp of bibliography. There are lots of challenges in taking sections to submit to journals.

Blessings,
Oz
Yeah...
But I know that you will come through the peer review just fine...
You have been at this a long time and your subject matter is worthwhile.

It's going to take me a bit to read through your paper. And right now it's Christmas...you know I'm in the middle of chocolate truffles and cookies by the thousands.

But I enjoy reading stuff like this. I like reading Todd Patterson too...he writes some unique stuff as well... just different.

I'd dare say that your paper will become sermons and sermon series in a few years.
Most good ones do.

Todd wrote one on symbiosis of man and earth and woman and God about 5-7 years ago...it's become the latest, greatest for most pastor's lately to preach on.
 

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Yeah...
But I know that you will come through the peer review just fine...
You have been at this a long time and your subject matter is worthwhile.

It's going to take me a bit to read through your paper. And right now it's Christmas...you know I'm in the middle of chocolate truffles and cookies by the thousands.

But I enjoy reading stuff like this. I like reading Todd Patterson too...he writes some unique stuff as well... just different.

I'd dare say that your paper will become sermons and sermon series in a few years.
Most good ones do.

Todd wrote one on symbiosis of man and earth and woman and God about 5-7 years ago...it's become the latest, greatest for most pastor's lately to preach on.

John,

One of my examiners, Dr Paul Barnett, an evangelical ancient history scholar from Sydney recommended I compose a book based on the dissertation. My supervisor at the University of Pretoria, Prof Ernest van Eck, also supports me in pursuing this goal. That's going to be a big task for 2021 if I take it on.

My dissertation is not reading for everyone because it contains lots of formal academic requirements such as: (1) Literature review, (2) Establishing methodology for the project. I chose the method of proposing hypotheses and testing them. There were over 20 possible hypotheses but I only tested 3 of them. (3) Finding a model to objectively assess a writer's presuppositions. My research found such a model. I have Crossan books sprawled all around me on the floor as I check certain quotes for the articles. I've completed one today and am waiting for some feedback on a Style Manual the journal uses.

There is such a variety of Style Manuals used in academia: Harvard, Turabian, Chicago, SBL, and some British journals use an MHRA Style Guide. It's a pain having to adapt to these idiosyncrasies. I've wasted hours learning new procedures. I used Harvard in-text manual with a bibliography for the dissertation.

Bed is calling on this Saturday night after a nice meal of thawed prawns (you might call them ocean shrimps), tomato and onion. I love this dish. I live only 20 mins from the Pacific Ocean and there are quite a few fish and prawn trawlers that operate from this region.
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...how do you know how your own body...

BY your ph levels needed for optimum health.
BY your actual levels of your ph balances.

Balanced diets...is a start. The guess work is where our food comes from, because it effects it the nutritional value.

Our body systems, blood, cells, lungs, kidneys, stomach, skin. (ph levels) "Normally" fluctuate... throughout the day.

Diets can change drastically for many reasons. Age, loss of teeth, picky likes only, convenience of junk foods, less active/ less food crave, etc.

Elderly OFTEN are less active, Eat less. Often alone, will eat cookies, crackers, heavily processed food (avoid cooking meal for one ).
Once their diet becomes extremely limited...their body parts that require certain nutrients/minerals...begin "leaching" (so to speak) from other body parts. It begins a cycle of ...all body parts operating on less than minimal needs of optimum health.
Optimum to stay Alive...
But Not Healthy...loose teeth, bones becomes brittle, hair brittle, nails brittle, skin dry, lungs Phlegm, dry throat/ cough, tired, etc.
Extended ... weak body parts, open the avenue for infections and diseases.
Once... infections, disease enter the equation...and the infections and disease increases rapidly...reversing the imBalance becomes nearly impossible.

Personally, I KEEP to the best of my ability, a check on my own optimum bodily needs.
I do not require to know the List medications of a stranger. I can see and Observe their bodily condition...and at times what they consume...restaurants, lines in fast junk food food restaurants, grocery carts, etc.

I avoid UP close personal contact with what I observe as not in optimum health.
Personal choice.

I have never had the flu vaccine.

Me either.

...being part of the trial does not actually tell me that it is no risk to everyone that will take it.

Agree.

I have not changed my lifestyle, worn a mask, period. I will not participate in taking a "Covid" vaccine.

You finding it necessary to BE up close to the elderly NOT in optimum health, have to decide your own protection, from "them".
Disposable filtered mask, gloves, gown, and able to remove those things and don clean mask, gloves, gown, as you go from person to person.
That is similar to a hospital setting.
Not sure your employer would be all hyped up about the constant gown changing (increased cost of buying disposable gowns or laundrying cloth gowns)...gloves and masks, likely a lesser big deal to the employer.

Attention on your own personal optimum health and protection from Already NOT in optimum health is what I personally would be presenting to employer.

Taking Vaccine...your right to be skeptical or freely jump on board.

Glory to God,
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